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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:55 pm
by Alduskkel
yoink
also want to point out that if you guys both vote pooky right now then we don't have to worry about this nonsense
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:56 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1360, Klick wrote: In post 1348, Clover Ebi wrote:I'm fine losing if Sleeper/Klick are scum so that leaves Koba/Pooky.
VOTE: Pooky
and I haven't been townreading this slot all game so
I've just come off this as an idea. Today he does just feel like he's solving.
So like it feels like klick got on board with the koba wagon really easily despite him being part of the “towncore” that he mentions early on
In post 1389, Klick wrote:In fact Pooky, if you're town, and I'm town, our odds of hitting scum if we literally vote randomly in the coalition are 4/9, which is Very High
this sounds like he really believes pooky is town (worth thinking about later)
In post 1401, Klick wrote:I think Koba is by far the most likely scum in the coalition, and I also think regardless of the flip it'll significantly progress towards a solve
pushing hard for a quick koba flip but critically it’s not a push that was led by him, it’s a push that I very much led
In post 1510, Klick wrote:UNVOTE:
Chemist where have I gone wrong?
Not considering you I suppose I'm between Pooky and Sleeper. Sleeper has had a couple of moments where I've been a bit like wtf, but overall has a pretty towny tone. Whereas Pooky was pretty consistently meh pre-coalition but has looked really good from the start of today.
Now the momentum drops off after I unvote koba and say I want a replacement, klick’s tone becomes conciliatory towards chem
More sheeping of consensus
In post 1530, Klick wrote:I will join a wagon on Sleeper or Pooky to get a lynch today. I'm trying to work out which I prefer.
Moves onto the new viable possibilities
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:57 pm
by DonCorleone
If you’re about to go to bed I’d rather you stayed on clover I think
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:58 pm
by DonCorleone
As in, I’ll be online up until deadline and I really think I’d like us to switch to klick but I’d rather compromise onto clover if it has to be one of them
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:59 pm
by DonCorleone
Like yes, I’m aware that this is my own fault for not having been more of a presence but that shouldn’t affect whether you think my argument here makes sense
Also if we all vote and pooky comes online then so long as literally anyone else comes online we should be good
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:00 pm
by DonCorleone
Okay but why does that make klick town
Was talking to wug but seeing as you’re here you can read my above points too
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:03 pm
by Wug
if pooky comes on
and
is willing to vote klick (who he thinks is town) over clover (who he thinks is scum)
and
someone else also comes on
and
is also willing to vote klick
then it's possible
that doesn't make it a good idea to aim for that
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:04 pm
by Alduskkel
I don't think Klick would hard defend Clover that much unless they were both scum, since they're both on the coalition.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:04 pm
by DonCorleone
He’ll do it to stay alive
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:06 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1707, Alduskkel wrote:I don't think Klick would hard defend Clover that much unless they were both scum, since they're both on the coalition.
Why not though? It feels like the opportunity for a hard pocket and it means that *if* both are seen as scum clover is likely to go down first
And if not, and clover is town, then klick potentially has enough mislynches just on the coalition to win
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:07 pm
by DonCorleone
Wug explain to me why clover is a good choice? It’s fine if it’s just barebones
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:10 pm
by Alduskkel
If Klick is scum then he wants to get other people on the coalition lynched before him. Trying to convince people that Clover is town goes directly against that.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:13 pm
by Alduskkel
Also I agreed with Klick saying Pooky's scumread on Clover felt fake, so I can see Klick's progression on townreading Pooky to scumreading Pooky as genuine.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:15 pm
by DonCorleone
True, that he wants others executed before him, but not true that it harms his wincon that much. 2 mislynches is lylo, correct? Say klick gets pooky -> sleeper executed, and then is executed himself in 5p lylo
There would then be loads of wifom in bringing like (you, wug, clover) to 3p lylo especially in any circumstance where a partner buses
And up until that point, it allows him to pocket clover so long as they’re not S/S
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:19 pm
by Wug
fluffy
too go-with-the-flow
the repeated "leave me off the coalition" stuff seemed phony
(we should have left him off)
he's nowhere to be seen now
I think pooky pointed out some of these
I agree more with ald that if klick is scum then clover likely is too
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:20 pm
by Alduskkel
You're assuming Klickscum can count on getting 2 others eliminated before him. What if he gets voted out Day 1 or Day 2? Then defending Clover has hurt him.
pedit: that was @DC
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:21 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1712, Alduskkel wrote:Also I agreed with Klick saying Pooky's scumread on Clover felt fake, so I can see Klick's progression on townreading Pooky to scumreading Pooky as genuine.
Okay but I think pooky has a good point of: why not just hammer koba and hard defend him, why argue that sleeper/koba are sufficiently town that if we were to lynch scum outside of coalition we’d be mechanically winning?
Idk, I think in terms of leaving options open klick is trying to do that much more than pooky is, and I kind of liked his righteous indignation and his appeal to deimos and me to take the game more seriously
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:23 pm
by DonCorleone
VOTE: clover
If this reds and I die do me a favour and kill klick tomorrow?
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:23 pm
by DonCorleone
ooi wug have we played together before? You kinda remind me of someone
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:24 pm
by DonCorleone
In post 1715, Alduskkel wrote:You're assuming Klickscum can count on getting 2 others eliminated before him. What if he gets voted out Day 1 or Day 2? Then defending Clover has hurt him.
pedit: that was @DC
I don’t see why klick!scum wouldn’t think that after being widely townread the majority of the game and then not really getting suspected on coalition!fail compared to koba
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:25 pm
by DonCorleone
+it allows a load of wifom in any case on clover even if he does die D2
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:27 pm
by Wug
idk who you are
but ty for the vote
ald pls hammer
I'm going to sleep now
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:30 pm
by DonCorleone
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:32 pm
by Alduskkel
i literally can't convince anyone of anything in this game
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:35 pm
by DonCorleone
Maybe it’s because you don’t do a very good job of explaining why you think what you think or maybe it’s because you come up with bad takes like this:
In post 1655, Alduskkel wrote:this sounds crazy but the more i think about it the more it sounds scummy as fuck no matter what pooky's alignment is