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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:56 pm
by PenguinPower
Yep. Never played with gamma before nor experienced multi replacements in a single slot.

Never.

Not once.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:56 pm
by teacher
If jakes the bottom of your list, what are you doing on a50? Just allowing replacements time and space?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:57 pm
by PenguinPower
Good point considering the wagon.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:58 pm
by PenguinPower
And the only other person on A50 stated a townread so.....

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:04 pm
by Bell
Yes, partly that's where my question came from.
I was probably going to move my vote back to Jake today or tomorrow depending on the answers I received. Chemist was right about inertia.
But yeah, the only reason he's really above Jake is because two other players said he was town and that shook me up a little. Neither is sharing though.

@Penguin: He was quite townie from replace in. he was more subdued after you replaced in. Not sure why tbh.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:08 pm
by Bell
In post 1700, PenguinPower wrote:Yep. Never played with gamma before nor experienced multi replacements in a single slot.

Never.

Not once.
I don't get what you mean. From your replace in, he had about 8 posts and they weren't very important ones. You have a point with the multiple replacements in a single slot thing though.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:11 pm
by dramonic
In post 1687, Chemist1422 wrote:I haven't caught up but I've done a couple ISOs

I do want to point out that there's a lot of "I would vote [x] if a wagon on them happens but I'd rather compromise on someone more viable"

We do have a good bit of time so I think this is a good time to experiment with wagons
Wow, so town :o

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:02 pm
by Hiraki
In post 1690, Chemist1422 wrote:i think the jake wagon doesn't really have much except for momentum behind it at this point and is probably bad then
????????
In post 1691, Chemist1422 wrote:multiple names are acceptable, though ideally ordered
you, jake, dunn (i guess), mara
In post 1700, PenguinPower wrote:Yep. Never played with gamma before nor experienced multi replacements in a single slot.

Never.

Not once.
bell had a decent point lol, this is a trash response

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:13 pm
by PenguinPower
Bell didn’t have a decent response and gamma was not acting like town gamma since my replace in.

That comment was trash.

Lol

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:18 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1704, Bell wrote:@Penguin: He was quite townie from replace in.
Tbh, I isod him after this and I don’t agree.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:28 pm
by Hiraki
i don't agree with the above but i don't think it's worth an argument

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:29 pm
by PenguinPower
It’s cool. We can call things trash without discussion. This is mafia!

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:40 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 1711, PenguinPower wrote:It’s cool. We can call things trash without discussion. This is mafia!
"This quotation is of the lowest quality, and it belongs with the rest of the filth. If you try to converse with me on this, I will be forced to simply not reply."

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:17 pm
by Bell
It just occurred to me teacher won’t the night be frozen anyway until we get replacements?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:54 pm
by dramonic
Probably?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:32 pm
by Dannflor
A50, I thought could be town because of his self-vote. It's a very slight read but he didn't really use it to try and get town-cred at all. In fact, in general the way he's been playing hasn't really seemed to be focused on optics at all? Like, even if he wanted to stick with his "I'm not gonna share reads schtick" as scum, I'd imagine he'd try and pretend he was contributing to the game state more than he was

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:39 pm
by Dannflor
and yeah I think dramonic's case about why Jake needs to die is probably right, I've kinda known that for a few days. I don't really believe the slot is exceptionally likelier to flip scum than other slots, but oh well, flipping scum on D1 is overrated anyway

I also wanted to wait until I could finish my reads list but I got busy this weekend and never had the time

Dramonic is town and I'm now of the opinion that Hiraki is pocketing him. And I now wish I helped push through the Hiraki wagon when the pressure was there. I don't know if it's just the game state to blame, but the stuff he's choosing to post is just so incredibly surface level and off that it feels like he's just posting to post and stay afloat with his status in the game. It makes sense, he's not in danger anymore and doesn't really need to do anything to protect himself, especially with dramonic (and me) around. As soon as he stopped being a major point of suspicion it feels like all desire to solve the game stopped. I don't buy that he's just stuck on Jake being scum that hard for that to affect his entire game play.

Uh, PP I slightly town read because of his progression on me and sheeping of my vote when he originally reaplced in which I think is exactly how town PP would approach replacing into a 50 page game. He could be going for a pocket on me quite possibly but he's fit what I'd expect from his town MO this game and he hasn't been afraid to argue with people at all which is bonus points

no one else has really made a significant towny impression on me. Teacher has had his moments but I'm very mixed on that slot.

I thought Gamma's catch up was towny but I want more content with him because he's someone I've misread before.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:40 pm
by Dannflor
VOTE: Jake E-1

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:48 pm
by Dunnstral
Intent to hammer

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:13 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
"Go ahead. I've driven myself to exhaustion trying to find who the evils are, and saving myself would be an entirely new stage of sorrow. If you wanted more from me, well, you don't know who I am now, do you? My notes are up for anyone to read, they are mainly unchanged. I still think it is unwise to execute me regardless of purity, I hate policy executing, but if you truly think it will make me win faster, then so be it."

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:45 pm
by RCEnigma
Regardless of Jake's flip, the slots that are on wagon and don't directly scumread the slot look gross. I mean the slots that don't really care if he's town or not because he's not useful. Town is town in a game that you have a small margin for error.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:50 pm
by Dunnstral
So why does it look bad if he is mafia?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:55 pm
by RCEnigma
Scum/other scum don't have complete knowledge so it is following the same mindset. Basically what I'm saying is the wagon doesn't look clean beyond the slots that spent the time to advocate why Jake is scum in the first place.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:35 am
by teacher
Happy cake day Dann!

And yes Bell night will be frozen, but we will have info for rereads/not engage in circular banter.

RCE, That’s a great way to position for a townflip and be able to push multiple slots at melo tomorrow, we’ll done!

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:39 am
by RCEnigma
I think all that evil practice paid off, thank you!