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In post 1697, Menalque wrote:I was fully expecting to yell at everyone about shelly because FOR SOME FUCKING REASON it is anathema to every fucking town on this site to end the day when it ought to be fucking ended and not drag it out until the last possible second

i hear ya bud, and you've obv had bad experiences, but listen:

We have just under 4 days left. Nobody is saying we leave it till the last hour. But ending the day now isn't best either. You get me?

In post 1694, Menalque wrote:I feel like TGP is the only person being reasonable rn in this entire PL

are you trying to pocket me?

jokes aside, i think we all need to take a break and i think datisi's being quite reasonable as well at this point. i don't think this post count race is helping either case and i'd really appreciate it if we could get a self imposed time limit on posting from both bm and menal

pedit: yeah this is a quite good point i don't condone ending the day immediately but the push to dissolve the shelly wagon feels forced.

double pedit: scum have an information advantage at the start, and roleclaiming in balanced setups usually benefits the side with the information advantage. let's not try to run up half the PL and force them to claim please.

In post 1693, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1688, Menalque wrote:we're not liming her BECAUSE she claimed VT

we're liming her because VT wasn't a good enough reason to NOT lim her after how scummy she'd been up to that point

^^ this and bm your deflection isn't helping the case that you and shelly are not scum together

calling the scumteam today: {shelly/ico/bm}. this is my most viable scumteam right now and the weird flip flopping and posturing that both ico and bm have been doing with regards to the shelly wagon make me really strongly think that they are all working together

i regret to inform you, you have fallen at the 1st hurdle.

In post 1700, Battle Mage wrote:But ending the day now isn't best either. You get me?

no, ending the day right now, tonight, is VERY MUCH the best possible thing we can do

there will be, I'm saying right now, no practical benefit whatsoever to ending the day one day before deadline and getting three more days of posting

there is already enough

end it now

Just read pages 64 -69

Is this all beer fuelled or something powdery?

BM can I see the compiled reads please?

In post 1693, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1688, Menalque wrote:we're not liming her BECAUSE she claimed VT

we're liming her because VT wasn't a good enough reason to NOT lim her after how scummy she'd been up to that point

^^ this and bm your deflection isn't helping the case that you and shelly are not scum together

calling the scumteam today: {shelly/ico/bm}. this is my most viable scumteam right now and the weird flip flopping and posturing that both ico and bm have been doing with regards to the shelly wagon make me really strongly think that they are all working together

I don't agree with this scum team. Im fairly certain there is a scum within {shelly, ico} however they are never scum together.

In post 1701, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1694, Menalque wrote:I feel like TGP is the only person being reasonable rn in this entire PL

are you trying to pocket me?

jokes aside, i think we all need to take a break and i think datisi's being quite reasonable as well at this point. i don't think this post count race is helping either case and i'd really appreciate it if we could get a self imposed time limit on posting from both bm and menal

pedit: yeah this is a quite good point i don't condone ending the day immediately but the push to dissolve the shelly wagon feels forced.

double pedit: scum have an information advantage at the start, and roleclaiming in balanced setups usually benefits the side with the information advantage. let's not try to run up half the PL and force them to claim please.

man, the shelly wagon was dead in the water anyway, i dont understand why anyone is precious over it. I also dont understand your stance on Ico - he was an advocate of consolidating wagons as i recall, which meant shelly would have a 50% chance of being elimmed?

and i wish you'd told me the double pedit point pre-game...i wouldnt have claimed on the first page! damnit!

there is such a ridiculous fetish for running days out that I take advantage of again, and again, and again when I'm scum and then I call that out when I'm town and everyone goes "nO bUt wE nEeD to MaXiMiSe tHe InfOrMatIoN" and it just benefits scum

In post 1704, Alonzo wrote:Just read pages 64 -69

Is this all beer fuelled or something powdery?

I'm not on coke

I may have been drinking

doesn't make me any less right in what I'm saying tho

In post 1707, Battle Mage wrote:man, the shelly wagon was dead in the water anyway,

IT WAS STALLED BECAUSE IT'S ON SCUM

In post 1703, Menalque wrote:

In post 1700, Battle Mage wrote:But ending the day now isn't best either. You get me?

no, ending the day right now, tonight, is VERY MUCH the best possible thing we can do

there will be, I'm saying right now, no practical benefit whatsoever to ending the day one day before deadline and getting three more days of posting

there is already enough

end it now

haha perhaps you're just a better scumhunter than the rest of us dude. for me, i want to try and get all the info we can! i know theres a lot of pages but lots of it is BS. If everyone stopped spamming, we could actually focus more and hold ppl to account

Menal why is shelly scum besides her playstyle?

In post 1706, Noraa wrote:Im fairly certain there is a scum within {shelly, ico}

if you're fairly certain there's scum in (shelly, icon) then why aren't you voting icon if you don't think shelly is scum????

and if you do think shelly has a good chance of being scum in that pairing, WHY WON'T YOU VOTE HER WITH ME

In post 1711, Menalque wrote:

In post 1707, Battle Mage wrote:man, the shelly wagon was dead in the water anyway,

IT WAS STALLED BECAUSE IT'S ON SCUM

hang on...all the wagons have stalled.

have we nailed all 3 scum?

Ico isn't getting clowned today obviously and I'm not positive shelly is the scum in that pool

In post 1713, Noraa wrote:Menal why is shelly scum besides her playstyle?

YOU CANNOT JUST JUSTIFY AWAY THE SCUMMY THINGS A PERSON DOES UNDER "WELL THAT'S THEIR PLAYSTYLE"

shelly adapting her reads to the gamestate instead of sticking to what she ACTUALLY thinks is scum behaviour!!!!!

shelly being reactive in how she reads someone instead of having any consistency in what she thinks someone's alignment is IS SCUMMY

In post 1714, Menalque wrote:

In post 1706, Noraa wrote:Im fairly certain there is a scum within {shelly, ico}

if you're fairly certain there's scum in (shelly, icon) then why aren't you voting icon if you don't think shelly is scum????

and if you do think shelly has a good chance of being scum in that pairing, WHY WON'T YOU VOTE HER WITH ME

i feel bad for noraa in all of this. she is practically begging you to give her a reason to run shelly up. i can see it coming a mile off

In post 1715, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1711, Menalque wrote:

In post 1707, Battle Mage wrote:man, the shelly wagon was dead in the water anyway,

IT WAS STALLED BECAUSE IT'S ON SCUM

hang on...all the wagons have stalled.

have we nailed all 3 scum?

no, we have a wagon on scum and we have multiple abortive counter wagons to that scum, first on TGP, now on teacher

In post 1708, Menalque wrote:there is such a ridiculous fetish for running days out that I take advantage of again, and again, and again when I'm scum and then I call that out when I'm town and everyone goes "nO bUt wE nEeD to MaXiMiSe tHe InfOrMatIoN" and it just benefits scum

absolutely not my experience dude, complete opposite actually!

In post 1718, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1714, Menalque wrote:

In post 1706, Noraa wrote:Im fairly certain there is a scum within {shelly, ico}

if you're fairly certain there's scum in (shelly, icon) then why aren't you voting icon if you don't think shelly is scum????

and if you do think shelly has a good chance of being scum in that pairing, WHY WON'T YOU VOTE HER WITH ME

i feel bad for noraa in all of this. she is practically begging you to give her a reason to run shelly up. i can see it coming a mile off

In post 1716, Noraa wrote:Ico isn't getting clowned today obviously and I'm not positive shelly is the scum in that pool

surely if you are "fairly certain" that there's scum in there, and we flip shelly today and she's town, then that means you have achieved a high level of certainty on icon!scum, no? so how are you losing here exactly?

In post 1707, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1701, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1694, Menalque wrote:I feel like TGP is the only person being reasonable rn in this entire PL

are you trying to pocket me?

jokes aside, i think we all need to take a break and i think datisi's being quite reasonable as well at this point. i don't think this post count race is helping either case and i'd really appreciate it if we could get a self imposed time limit on posting from both bm and menal

pedit: yeah this is a quite good point i don't condone ending the day immediately but the push to dissolve the shelly wagon feels forced.

double pedit: scum have an information advantage at the start, and roleclaiming in balanced setups usually benefits the side with the information advantage. let's not try to run up half the PL and force them to claim please.

man, the shelly wagon was dead in the water anyway, i dont understand why anyone is precious over it. I also dont understand your stance on Ico - he was an advocate of consolidating wagons as i recall, which meant shelly would have a 50% chance of being elimmed?

and i wish you'd told me the double pedit point pre-game...i wouldnt have claimed on the first page! damnit!

noraa vote shelly because she's literally scum the amount of evidence that has been given (if you iso menal and to a lesser extent me) to support that claim is overwhelming

In post 1719, Menalque wrote:

In post 1715, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1711, Menalque wrote:

In post 1707, Battle Mage wrote:man, the shelly wagon was dead in the water anyway,

IT WAS STALLED BECAUSE IT'S ON SCUM

hang on...all the wagons have stalled.

have we nailed all 3 scum?

no, we have a wagon on scum and we have multiple abortive counter wagons to that scum, first on TGP, now on teacher

curiously you forgot taylor?

In post 1720, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1708, Menalque wrote:there is such a ridiculous fetish for running days out that I take advantage of again, and again, and again when I'm scum and then I call that out when I'm town and everyone goes "nO bUt wE nEeD to MaXiMiSe tHe InfOrMatIoN" and it just benefits scum

absolutely not my experience dude, complete opposite actually!

I'm not talking about quick hammering someone one RL day into the game

once everyone has taken sufficient stances to get someone to intent then there is enough info to be going on

more info is just drowning the signal with noise