In post 1695, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t have anything with Battle Mage that pinged me, however, i do normally town read him when he is town, and his Outer vote does make sense as scum, so NPOM/Battle Mage does make sense. I don’t think either Outer or Alchemist are bussing NPOM, so that means it’s probably NPOM/BM/No Elim.
Which sucks because the masons give NPOM strength.
Alternatively, I’m wrong on Outer, but I need within NPOM and the masons today.
I was kinda hoping you would defend Battle Mage so I could con Mathblade into eliminating him correctly. What really pinged me (aside from our earlier fights) is his historical vote pattern. He's third on NPOM on earlier days, but when the time comes back, he votes Outer instead. He then scurries off (likely because IRL but still).
Outer would likely only be scum with NPOM anyway because Outer claiming not VT gives NPOM's claim some legitimacy because it would be accurate.
In post 1695, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t have anything with Battle Mage that pinged me, however, i do normally town read him when he is town, and his Outer vote does make sense as scum, so NPOM/Battle Mage does make sense. I don’t think either Outer or Alchemist are bussing NPOM, so that means it’s probably NPOM/BM/No Elim.
Which sucks because the masons give NPOM strength.
Alternatively, I’m wrong on Outer, but I need within NPOM and the masons today.
I was kinda hoping you would defend Battle Mage so I could con Mathblade into eliminating him correctly. What really pinged me (aside from our earlier fights) is his historical vote pattern. He's third on NPOM on earlier days, but when the time comes back, he votes Outer instead. He then scurries off (likely because IRL but still).
Outer would likely only be scum with NPOM anyway because Outer claiming not VT gives NPOM's claim some legitimacy because it would be accurate.
Why are you not considering NPOM town?
I did attempt to entertain it last night.
The issues with his claim are too volumnious.
The vote wagon history is too bad.
The fact that the Ben wagon should have scum on it somewhere.
Battle Mage's vote patterns.
I did look. I did entertain it. I just can't see it with any rational scenario.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:26 am
by Titus
In post 1702, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t really want a Battle Mage fade today, that’s just going to cause tomorrow to be between NPOM and Masons for me.
Possible but Alch is more likely and one of Titus/FL being town derp is more likely.
You realize that NPOM's scumteam just happens to be three players who aren't going to vote each other prior to his flip right? It's pretty blatantly transparent.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:46 am
by MathBlade
Look at the join date Titus. They’re a newb. They’re probably a me who suspects everyone who suspects them badly.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:47 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I'm willing to consider alch at least.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:48 am
by Titus
In post 1712, MathBlade wrote:Look at the join date Titus. They’re a newb. They’re probably a me who suspects everyone who suspects them badly.
Their join date has zero to do with their personality.
You're pitying them because they remind you of you. That's not evidence Math. Look at their play.
You can't suppose they're town in the justification.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:49 am
by NoPowerOverMe
It doesn't have to do with my join date I play poker and in poker you play what you're dealt.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:50 am
by MathBlade
Let’s try this another way.
Assume NPOM scum and Outer town like you’re theorizing.
Why does NPOM scum claim a guilty on Outer who is town?
Assume NPOM scum and Outer town like you’re theorizing.
Why does NPOM scum claim a guilty on Outer who is town?
It’s a bad scum move unless preplanned agreed?
NPOM didn't claim a guilty. NPOM claimed that Outer was just not a VT.
Outer then verified the claim as a bg claim.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:53 am
by MathBlade
Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:54 am
by NoPowerOverMe
The only possible town ower solution is scum has a buttload of power.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:54 am
by NoPowerOverMe
Or masons are lying
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:57 am
by MathBlade
Exactly. (Well minus the me lying part) This if NPOM scum is 100% designed for me to elim them. So if I assume NPOM is scum I don’t want to do that whoever scum is. NPOM could be scum but if we elim Outer we can demonstrate this is indeed what scum wanted or if I force scum to be on NPOM same thing occurs.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:58 am
by Titus
In post 1718, MathBlade wrote:Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.
Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?
The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:59 am
by Titus
In post 1721, MathBlade wrote:Exactly. (Well minus the me lying part) This if NPOM scum is 100% designed for me to elim them. So if I assume NPOM is scum I don’t want to do that whoever scum is. NPOM could be scum but if we elim Outer we can demonstrate this is indeed what scum wanted or if I force scum to be on NPOM same thing occurs.
TLDR
Or just NPOM is scum because a) he lied and b) too much power
In post 1718, MathBlade wrote:Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.
Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?
The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.
I agree. NPOM if scum is absolutely a bus.
So if NPOM is scum I am going to force almost if not the entire scum team to do so.