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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:42 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1680, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1666, Taly wrote:
Cakez
, I'm not looking for a detailed rebuttal outlining your POV.

I want you to engage with what content I've created, and if you feel that I still haven't provided anything, don't confbias a reason to sus me, explain it.
I will try to do this - I feel you will be a valuable player here if you're town.
yeah I basically agree with this take. ISOs and stuff aren't town indicative really - especially looking at random pairings for associatives. However, I like Taly's effort and the bits I've read have been good quality.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:42 am
by Gamma Emerald
okay I've nearly finished the compiling and just need to see who voted Titus to compare that to who said they would NK Titus

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:44 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1696, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1651, Alisae wrote:I could be talked into killing flea today as well tbh
I'd be fine with Flea too I guess. A different case to Murdercat but overall similar likelihood of flipping scum.
Why?

Also
@Taly
I think it's wiser to say I used "24-Hour Grace Period" on you?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:44 am
by Battle Mage
Titus made a case on me - which was based on a misunderstanding.

I subsequently cleared up the misunderstanding.

She ignored my clearing up of the misunderstanding and continued to lazily push her case on me.

Titus-town tends to read more closely and be able to adapt and flex better than Titus-scum, and this feels more like the latter. I wouldn't bet my house on it, but it's a scumlean for sure.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:45 am
by OutWorldER
I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:49 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1699, Taly wrote:Also, if ANYTHING I've posted about you has been shade in any form, you have my sympathies because I think you'll spontaneously combust if I actually intended to shade you.

Our solves don't align that much MC. What do we do?
That's why I say light shade. I'm not that confident about my reads so I don't think you should be trusting me to hit scum. I think tomorrow will be more useful, I know there will be post restrictions but we have all night in a hood.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:50 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1691, MURDERCAT wrote:Flea - Flea's wall on me is like, pretty fake? A lot of quoting dumb jokes and trying to read into them and not quoting things that I think are actually relevant. It also feels like fae went through my iso looking for things to shade me on and I think fae did the same thing to Titus. It reads like setup for a future vote if my wagon becomes real. Like how does my entire iso have nothing that is indicative of town me?
I was pretty transparent in that I was skimming your ISO to find stuff against you in support of the wagon, or things that could be viable to use against the wagon. I have a town lean on you as your interactions seem genuine to me. I have no intention to join the wagon because despite that there may well be a point to the wagon, I feel that my gut and ongoing read is strong enough to say you're town. I've said it twice. If I'm on your wagon later its because it's either that or no lim, and I believe that a lim is always the way to go, we're still playing mafia here.

I can add you to my TODO list for a proper evaluation?

My Titus eval was my genuine thoughts

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:51 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1659, Flea The Magician wrote:My gut says MC town. My brain is saying "nope, MC bad" and I'm torn.
I feel like this contradicts with what you are saying here, no?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:53 am
by Taly
Gamma Emerald wrote: Also
@Taly
I think it's wiser to say I used "24-Hour Grace Period" on you?
true but now i will literally stall hammers so you can post,
gamma
;)

p-edit

Battle Mage wrote:Titus made a case on me - which was based on a misunderstanding.

I subsequently cleared up the misunderstanding.

She ignored my clearing up of the misunderstanding and continued to lazily push her case on me.

Titus-town tends to read more closely and be able to adapt and flex better than Titus-scum, and this feels more like the latter. I wouldn't bet my house on it, but it's a scumlean for sure.
See this is why everybody who scumreads
BM
fucks me up a little.

I was sorting a slot
(Titus)

BM
gives his reads.
I ask for
BM
to explain that
Titus
read.
BM
gives me a CONCISE explanation to his POV in regards to
Titus
.

That's more of a
"we work together"
mentality I get than from half the slots this game.

Alternatively, I could be
BM's
pocket but I have no clue how to dispel this D1.

Or
BM
is just a
Taly
whisperer whenever he doesn't want my slot to eat the lim... literally one or the other seem to be the possibilities now.

Anyway, I'll reread
BM/Titus
convos with this context.

p-edit again

OutWorldER wrote:I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.
I keep tailing back to
Flea
town, they feel genuine, but I'm not strong on this.

Can you explain why
MC
is a good flip based off associatives?
MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1699, Taly wrote:Also, if ANYTHING I've posted about you has been shade in any form, you have my sympathies because I think you'll spontaneously combust if I actually intended to shade you.

Our solves don't align that much MC. What do we do?
That's why I say light shade. I'm not that confident about my reads so I don't think you should be trusting me to hit scum. I think tomorrow will be more useful, I know there will be post restrictions but we have all night in a hood.
I'm not trusting you to hit scum.

I'm trusting you to be transparent. ;)

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:58 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think I wanna drip-feed my thoughts, starting with this.
BM, what is your broad-scope evaluation of Titus as a player? I know you said she's more flexible as town than scum, but I want more than that.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:58 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1708, Taly wrote:I'm not trusting you to hit scum.

I'm trusting you to be transparent.
I think I've been transparent with both my thoughts about mech, my reads, and the general sense of not having anything click yet that I've been feeling. I simply have a hard time forming strong reads on everyone during D1 of a large theme, coming away with 4 or 5 TRs is something I personally am satisfied with for D1.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:06 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1707, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1659, Flea The Magician wrote:My gut says MC town. My brain is saying "nope, MC bad" and I'm torn.
I feel like this contradicts with what you are saying here, no?
It what I was thinking after the ISO. My gut outweighs my brain when I'm considering my reads, and taking in my ongoing read I think you are town. I biased myself with that ISO and it was a bad idea, I thought it was good at the time but painbrain be funky.

I'm still kinda torn on my overall read considering this, but honestly I have no intention of joining your wagon. I happy with you being townlean at the moment but you're definitely one to keep an eye on.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:07 am
by MURDERCAT
mmk

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:08 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1704, OutWorldER wrote:I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.
Eh, nowt new there. If you're going for it, go for it.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:09 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1709, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I wanna drip-feed my thoughts, starting with this.
BM, what is your broad-scope evaluation of Titus as a player? I know you said she's more flexible as town than scum, but I want more than that.
an evaluation of her as a player? what do you mean? like, strengths and weaknesses, an overall rating? :shifty:

I'm sure she'd love getting an appraisal from me. :lol:

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:09 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1713, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1704, OutWorldER wrote:I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.
Eh, nowt new there. If you're going for it, go for it.
you english?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 am
by Thestatusquo
VoteCount 1.48


MURDERCAT [6]
outworldER Akarin xRECKONERx alisae sircakez battle mage
blitzo [3]
thegoldenparadox titus pookythemagicalbear
titus [2]
haschel cedricson DrippingGoofball
Battle Mage [2]
blitzo flea the magician
DrippingGoofball [1]
taly
sircakez [1]
bell
no elim [1]
murdercat

Not Voting [1]

gamma emerald

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1714, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1709, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I wanna drip-feed my thoughts, starting with this.
BM, what is your broad-scope evaluation of Titus as a player? I know you said she's more flexible as town than scum, but I want more than that.
an evaluation of her as a player? what do you mean? like, strengths and weaknesses, an overall rating? :shifty:

I'm sure she'd love getting an appraisal from me. :lol:
yeah, all her assets and flaws and such, everything you've gathered about her. There's a very good reason I'm asking you.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:19 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1715, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1713, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1704, OutWorldER wrote:I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.
Eh, nowt new there. If you're going for it, go for it.
you english?
Aye, you?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:20 am
by Thestatusquo
DrippingGoofball and xRECKONERx have been prodded

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:25 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1717, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1714, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1709, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I wanna drip-feed my thoughts, starting with this.
BM, what is your broad-scope evaluation of Titus as a player? I know you said she's more flexible as town than scum, but I want more than that.
an evaluation of her as a player? what do you mean? like, strengths and weaknesses, an overall rating? :shifty:

I'm sure she'd love getting an appraisal from me. :lol:
yeah, all her assets and flaws and such, everything you've gathered about her. There's a very good reason I'm asking you.
after what you just disclosed in our last game together...I think I'll respectfully pass.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:26 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1718, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1715, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1713, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1704, OutWorldER wrote:I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.
Eh, nowt new there. If you're going for it, go for it.
you english?
Aye, you?
yeah. the "nowt" got me. :lol:

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:28 am
by DrippingGoofball
Can someone point me to any of Titus' post that justify not voting for her?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:33 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1720, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1717, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1714, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1709, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I wanna drip-feed my thoughts, starting with this.
BM, what is your broad-scope evaluation of Titus as a player? I know you said she's more flexible as town than scum, but I want more than that.
an evaluation of her as a player? what do you mean? like, strengths and weaknesses, an overall rating? :shifty:

I'm sure she'd love getting an appraisal from me. :lol:
yeah, all her assets and flaws and such, everything you've gathered about her. There's a very good reason I'm asking you.
after what you just disclosed in our last game together...I think I'll respectfully pass.
Would much prefer you did. Not like I have that sort of means, so what's the deal? Just being a dick?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:41 am
by Battle Mage
Gamma, for goodness sake, can you please leave me alone for once? I just want to enjoy a game of mafia - it's clearly best we don't engage unless it actually relates to the game.