Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [game over!]

[Datisi]

[Alchemist21]

Good game everyone

[unwnd]

Huh

The dead PT thought Lunar was my partner

[Kazyan]

I'm just happy it's over, because these last few days have been killing me.

I apologize to the town for doing the wrongest possible thing every step of the way and getting into an Ultimate Final Battle that was doomed from the start. I guess that's why people normally start with Newbie games.

[Kazyan]

Byt man, the chaos strategy is ridiculously effictive. I'm a lot happier that it's that, rather than Lunar simply killing everyone who scumread him, because this forum has had a decade of metagame evolution amd if

that

still worked...

[Kazyan]

Penguin, I give up. What's this D&D reference you mentioned repeatedly in the dead thread? i can't find the crumb

[Kazyan]

Wait, I just got it. Bard. Jack of all trades. Ok.

I'll stop stressposting now

[PenguinPower]

Wait, I just got it. Bard. Jack of all trades. Ok.

[Dannflor]

The dead PT thought Lunar was my partner

didn't we all

[Lunar Martian]

Wait I wasn't unwnd's partner?

[2ndchosen1]

I'm just happy it's over, because these last few days have been killing me.

I apologize to the town for doing the wrongest possible thing every step of the way and getting into an Ultimate Final Battle that was doomed from the start. I guess that's why people normally start with Newbie games.

man I feel that. no idea how my text is gonna be read on emotional level and actual business keeping me generally away
thanks hayker

[2ndchosen1]

I was actually also the one originally gonna cc vig, as we thought it was LM.
he had a PP sus D1 and a GE sus D2 and they both ended up dead so....

[Dannflor]

Also, Kazyan, I thought you played really well and me eventually voting you had nothing to do with your slot in the end

don't beat yourself up too bad

[Lunar Martian]

Yeah I think the vig sheeping me was a bad play

Anyway, gg. Sorry I didn't have better reads. I guess we each got one over on each other, Unwnd. You overdid it a bit at the end and you're lucky I wasn't around.
Thanks datisi!

[2ndchosen1]

is that level of replacement normal?
felt like a lot of people left

[Kazyan]

It was a good setup, yeah. Thanks, Datisi. I liked the IC Jailkeeper Enabler combination; hiding from the Mafia to protect Dannflor seemed cool at the time, even though we were bamboozled.

[Datisi]

thank you, glad to hear the game was enjoyed

[AGar]

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RABBLE

[Kazyan]

On late D3 and D4, I kept trying to come up with something to help distinguish between players, but there's this hard-to-break symmetry between town and scum when you're deeply speculating, and a layer of WIFOM between every single step of what-ifery. The best I could do was that post-order suggestion--I had like three layers of theory of mind on an Excel flowchart before I finally found something that could possibly break it. So this game required a tremendous amount of brainpower to help me narrow the probabilities at all, and even then, I went into D4 saying we should yeet Lunar.

How does this compare to the Newbie queue?

[AGar]

I mean newbies are good because it's a semi-open setup with fairly basic roles and a smaller player list so it allows you to focus more on posting and less on mechanical speculations and stuff like that.

[2ndchosen1]

ah, sorry Agar your reads were close and we were worried you'd get me in there pretty quick. was an immediate we need to get rid of this problem before it refines itself

[AGar]

I mean, I don't know that I would have? I got 2/3 but I don't know that I would've gotten past LM and his behavior in endgame was really like "oh they can't be this obvious about unwnd/LM, can they? I think they are."

[2ndchosen1]

well that was our D1 NK logic, we didn't know at the time LM would do that stuff

[Cabd]

GG WP, was a fun watch.

[Papa Zito]

I demand a recount