Mini 2231: Radio Buzz | Game Over!

[rousseau]

I'm having the same conversation that you are!

i was not trying to say that 'drippinggoofball is town!' so you framing it as 'we'll see who's right' felt like a different conversation to me

if anything i think that kinda behaviour more likely to come from partners like the cases ame made against humaneatingmonkey/bugspray in micro blitz i and humaneatingmonkey/me in micro blitz ii

[Tetrina]

Ok so we agree DrippingGoofball is or could be scum?

[rousseau]

Ok so we agree DrippingGoofball is or could be scum?

drippinggoofball could be scum, yes, though does not currently seem the most likely to me

[Something_Smart]

man I kinda wish I was radio caller

Sounds like it's kinda impossible to win as.

[Something_Smart]

Dislike the focus on the callers, i think they're a distraction and that it's easier for scum to talk abt them than the actual players in the game

So let me get this straight, I joined a game with weird mechanics and you think it's scummy that I'm trying to understand them?

I completely agree that they're a distraction, but if they have mechanical relevance, then it's important to know how they work. Besides like I haven't read much and the only thing anyone told me to read was the callers' messages.

[Something_Smart]

I'll look at Enchant's ISO I guess. ISO's are usually a terrible way to get reads in a game you haven't read, but better than nothing, and maybe I can click on the context of some post and get some reading in that way.

[Something_Smart]

Oh wow that slot really do be having no content.

[Infinity 324]

it's not too late to elim skitter

[rousseau]

ceph has posted so much but he hasn't town told

Cephrir has said a lot but nothing he's said has made me think he's town and that seems unlikely statistically if he is town

[rousseau]

UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

this is not how skitt sorts someone she has a lot of experience with

a lot of people put some amount of focus on the callers. skitt isn't pushing shiki who started this whole thing so it's pretty ?

is pooky scum for the same reason or do you actually have something there

I think its scummy for everyone honestly, yeah
Pooky i am also getting suspicious vibes from

[Infinity 324]

how about

shiki

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think its scummy for everyone honestly, yeah
Pooky i am also getting suspicious vibes from

are we talking

[Something_Smart]

I think its scummy for everyone honestly, yeah

Can you respond to 1704?

Like yeah I can see that if someone consistently focuses on the callers and avoids the players that can be scummy. But I was specifically directed to look at them, and they're a special mechanic of the game, so why wouldn't I try to understand them?

[skitter30]

both enchant and something smart focused on the callers upon replacing in because i asked them to,

also they both replace in, say not going to read whole game, and we know that if mafia one of the things they know about the game is which caller is the mafia caller, so i really do not understand how that's like, a bad thing for them to talk about? even if you think the callers are a distraction (though something smart did not really talk about, like, the alignments of the callers or anything that would be helpful towards knowing if informed, so, hm)

also also i kinda feel like there is a narrative to you/drippinggoofball saying this because i am partially focused on the callers and we previously discussed and i really do not think it is likely you would feel i am not town here

There's like pages ans pages ans pages of content around the callers. It doesnt sound like we're ever going yo know their alignment definitively, so what are we going to get by discussing their alignment? Like even if scum interacts weirdly arounf the scum one, how are we ever going to know which is the scum one?

Like even if we identify the scum one .... so what? What do we do with that info that is better or different than just finding scum in the main game. And scum are incentivized to talk about that because its easier to fake scumhunt around people they cant flip. I imaine scum would rather talk about the the callers than real people in the game

Tje The whole thing seems to me like a way for tweetie ti have her friends to play a 'lite' game of forum mafia (which is a great idea!) but i dont get how it helps me, as town, solve the game

And yes you asked them both to read the callers but if i'm town and rep in with three days to deadline, i wajt to get some sort of handle on the main game to figure out who to flip, even just be reading an iso or the development of the leading wagon

[skitter30]

Dislike the focus on the callers, i think they're a distraction and that it's easier for scum to talk abt them than the actual players in the game

both enchant and something smart focused on the callers upon replacing in because i asked them to,

also they both replace in, say not going to read whole game, and we know that if mafia one of the things they know about the game is which caller is the mafia caller, so i really do not understand how that's like, a bad thing for them to talk about? even if you think the callers are a distraction (though something smart did not really talk about, like, the alignments of the callers or anything that would be helpful towards knowing if informed, so, hm)

also also i kinda feel like there is a narrative to you/drippinggoofball saying this because i am partially focused on the callers and we previously discussed and i really do not think it is likely you would feel i am not town here

Ok. I'm not sure that all of those examples imply that those people were planning on voting there tho

they all imply the willingness or consideration of voting there, like as soon as you unvoted my first thought was, hm, probably going to end up on enchant, and if ydrasse is town and something smart is mafia the mafia would have to think it was quite possible she would vote there due to previous statements about roden, and pooky had just unvoted roden at my request, and ssbm kyouko seemed to be pressuring infinity to vote roden, and yet noone tried to provide another option unless you think that's what galron was doing? and outside of tetrina when questioned, everyone just kinda sure why not about wagon, even while kinda hardpushing it in the case of ssbm kyouko, right? so what was mafia doing if something smart is mafia? and if you think mafia not doing anything because inactive, then enchant has to be most likely partner? but when wagon is on enchant there's opposition, none of which really seems to come from a place of 'enchant is likely town to me'

like drippinggoofball was on house wagon after i sort of paused it due to wanting more time, kyouko voted drippinggoofball, tetrina and drippinggoofball then crossvoted (both leaving the house wagon), then a bit later kyouko unvoted while talking about galron, but was actually unvoting drippinggoofball as galron pointed out, then kyouko started roden wagon everyone was sure why not about, with like 'gamma right about active posters being towny' thrown in there somewhere, despite her presentation of the votes on house as a negative thing/being the first vote onto multiple non-house players at time of wagon

and you said you thought house's exit was towny before revising to nai, and now that enchant feels clueless in a 'not having a scum pt' way? and both of these seem kinda ... to me

(but also i do know that you strongly advocate against wagons you disagree with as town, so)

and like, i would not be thrilled about enchant wagon in a vacuum like my thought from their play isn't like, 'this is definitely mafia' or anything

but it feels so much more like a wagon on a scums to me

I'm quoting this to respond to when i get home later ^

[skitter30]

Oh wow that slot really do be having no content.

Does that make them scum? If so, ehy?

[skitter30]

I think its scummy for everyone honestly, yeah

Can you respond to 1704?

Like yeah I can see that if someone consistently focuses on the callers and avoids the players that can be scummy. But I was specifically directed to look at them, and they're a special mechanic of the game, so why wouldn't I try to understand them?

I think 1714 largely addresses that point, but lmk if i missed something

I owe a few things ro a few people, i'll be getting home this evening and will be able to answer more thorougjlh then

[Something_Smart]

Does that make them scum? If so, ehy?

No? Why would it?

I was just hoping to get some kind of read on them.

[Something_Smart]

I think 1714 largely addresses that point, but lmk if i missed something

1714 talks about trying to read the callers, and I'm in agreement with you that that's a bad idea. It doesn't cover trying to understand the mechanic as a new replacement, which is why I think it's really weird that you're lumping me in with the other people who were trying to sort them. (More than just lumping me in, you actually called me out for it!)

[skitter30]

Does that make them scum? If so, ehy?

No? Why would it?

I was just hoping to get some kind of read on them.

Ok it read to me like you were building up to pushing them for lack of content, but i wasnf sure, so i asked

[skitter30]

I think 1714 largely addresses that point, but lmk if i missed something

1714 talks about trying to read the callers, and I'm in agreement with you that that's a bad idea. It doesn't cover trying to understand the mechanic as a new replacement, which is why I think it's really weird that you're lumping me in with the other people who were trying to sort them. (More than just lumping me in, you actually called me out for it!)

My point is not inherently 'new replacements shouldnt be trying to understand the mechanics' but morw that talking abt the callers (sorting, mechanics, etc) over people on this game seema scummy to me. In my mind i'm not really making a big distinction between sorting and mechanics, in my mind they all fall under the same category of 'talking abt callers and not people in this game'

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

in my experience when there's 2 leading wagons and neither of the 2 have any solid/real read on the other wagon its probly just S/S

[rousseau]

as soon as you unvoted my first thought was, hm, probably going to end up on enchant

I'm quoting this to respond to when i get home later ^

this part means to say ‘roden’

[Ydrasse]

s_s replaces into scum slots without fail its s_s