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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:38 pm
by skitter30
In post 1339, Aristeia wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84719

like here's the link.

8 players - 1 Mafia Goon 1 Mafia Ascetic Neighbor Hood of 3.

Town Power:
1 Shot Tracker
1 Shot Weak Friendly Neighbor
Town Bunyip
Night 2 Bulletproof Neighbor
Vanilla Town Neighbor
Vanilla Town


I don't see any red herring roles. Town Power Roles Serve a clear purpose.
So just to be clear we claimed thus far:
Hood 3x (dats ceph vpb)
Bunyip enchant
Ascetic prism
Mailman ari

I think this points p strongly to scum in the hood
And possibly scum-prism

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:40 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
ok so there is some solving from him here especially at the start. i guess none of it has jumped out at me as like, wow, that made me feel anything... so that's where i get the idea that the posts are just there to be there
imo as it goes on the solving decreases and focusing on dats increases. & the paranoia posts just pop up sometimes... i think that's performative because ive seen enough to feel pretty good about dats for good

some pointless banter that's not related to the game

some responses to me or dats

ooh i forgot about the time he rolefished dats that was fun

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:41 pm
by Prism
Fair enough. Either way, my instinct is that it makes no sense for Shuichi to post that if this is a TvT cross so I'm going to go back on Baltar.

VOTE: Baltar

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:47 pm
by Aristeia
so it is the same setup again and you are all just trolling me

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:48 pm
by skitter30
Well if it helps i am more amneable to scum prism now

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:48 pm
by VP Baltar
I cannot wait for dats to weigh in on this. There is zero town reason for suichi to out this but to cause drama. Possible he was worried about prism going down here. I even told him in the hood to just go after me if he thought I was scum. No reason to dump the hood

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:50 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1705, VP Baltar wrote:I cannot wait for dats to weigh in on this. There is zero town reason for suichi to out this but to cause drama. Possible he was worried about prism going down here. I even told him in the hood to just go after me if he thought I was scum. No reason to dump the hood
yea no reason for suichi to out that we are playing the exact same setup that boonskies ran before when it heavily implies scum prism

that makes a lot of sense Baltar you will eat rope tommorrow

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:53 pm
by Aristeia
Image

he literally says he likes the setup

why wouldn't he run it again

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:53 pm
by Prism
"Fair enough" was about the trolling dialogue, not the mechanical point. I realize my wording can be confusing.

Mechanically I'm pretty done with this game and I'm not going to jump through hoops spitballing why it
has
to be a town ascetic when it comes down to Flavor did not run the same setup again.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:54 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1705, VP Baltar wrote:Possible he was worried about prism going down here.
?!!??!

yea im sure outting that we are playing the same setup again is going to do wonders for prism.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:54 pm
by skitter30
No no, i understood that too

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:55 pm
by Prism
Pretty sure that Micro was literally the last micro Boon ran skimming through FL/Boon's threads. Absolutely reused it immediately.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:56 pm
by Aristeia
also I just spent 2 hours rereading guardians and town!baltar looks nothing like this

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:56 pm
by fireisredsir
well that explains where a lot of the datisi posting went and why there was so weirdly little interaction between VP/datisi

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:58 pm
by Prism
Also explains Datisi's page 45 soft to skitter. Described paranoia in PT is about what I'd expect from town-Datisi locked in a chamber with VP Baltar.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:04 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1711, Prism wrote:Pretty sure that Micro was literally the last micro Boon ran skimming through FL/Boon's threads. Absolutely reused it immediately.
p much.

cuz what's more likely:


FL reuses the same setup he said he likes [unintentionally trolling his scum ascetic who claimed immediately]

or

FL makes a big change to the setup he likes that changes balance drastically in order to troll the shit out of his players who think they're playing the same setup but he's actually flipped the alignment of the ascetic cuz lol-funny.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:04 pm
by Aristeia
it is p wild he actually re-ran the same setup though

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:06 pm
by Aristeia
I'm assuming I am a replacement role for the One Shot Weak Friendly Neighbor which I guess was designed to interact with Scum Ascetic in Lol-Funny ways - he altered it into a Novice Mailman who can maybe find the scum ascetic before Elo if Lucky?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:06 pm
by Prism
Even without knowledge of my role PM I think flipping alignments around is more likely, but OK.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:07 pm
by Aristeia
Flipping the alignment makes absolutely 0 balance sense

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:09 pm
by Prism
Scum ?/Bunyip
Scum Goon Neighbor
Town Ascetic
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Novice Mailman
Town ?/Bunyip
2x VT

requires only slight modification to be runnable, town too weak with just this

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:10 pm
by skitter30
I should probably be industrious and read like vpb/prism associatives
But i guess that will wait till tomorrow

Pedit why are there 2 bunyips now

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:11 pm
by Prism
It's saying Bunyip can be either

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:12 pm
by Prism
bonus that making the ascetic scum in that actually makes it tilt even more to scum, already scumsided in that mockup

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:12 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1679, skitter30 wrote:How do u not have any scumreads at this point?
They went away
In post 1680, fireisredsir wrote:still would like a reason for town vp, dwlee
He is less agreeable