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In post 1698, fireisredsir wrote:really my biggest doubt is that i question why RR picked ari over GL. i think there's more that imo clears ari here and i would have been at least tempted to vote GL over RR, tbh

i was hoping they would pick vivax cause that would be an easy vote

In post 1455, Roden wrote:

In post 1419, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 1416, Roden wrote:I'm just struggling to figure out how to participate without inducing WIFOM by just existing

I feel like I'm in a weird spot where anything I say is going to get interpreted as being way more layered than it actually is. Some of the votes on Dann were made because of a pre-flipped read on me and looking too deeply into my town read on him. Idk, I don't want to ruin the game by centralizing who to vote for over things that are in my ISO.

So your argument is that you waited to vote Kuti once GL had already put him to e-1 not to wifom scum? Your vote did absolutely nothing to help Dann atp because had I voted Kuti, it would have been a tie and the earlier tie always wins, so I think for that to have really made any sense, you wouldn’t have waited until it was extremely likely too late to save him.

Nah and that's not even close to what I said.

I'm just pissed and annoyed that I'm the fucking fall guy every time a single vote goes wrong. And I'm even more annoyed that I won't be able to defend myself the moment I inevitably get put up. Like at this point I don't see the point in trying because no one ever listens to me.

In post 987, Roden wrote:I...don't know why I'm alive. That was one of my worst Day 1's in awhile, I expected to get thrown in the pit for an easy scum point.

I understand Kitty flipped red but I genuinely don't know why he got flipped at all. Every time I've seem scum!Kitty, he fights hard to live and gets hard protected by his allies, with all the pressure on him and no real defense I thought he was just town LHF again.

There's no way he wasn't bussed, because I still don't think he did anything particularly scummy for people to want him out as badly as everyone did

.

In post 753, kutiplz wrote:Town ish vibes:

GuiltyLion: my first tr of the game, very much like they were in our previous games, just overall a gut and soul read
Loki: feeling good about this slot, their solving is logical (like how they are doing it in the thread), I like the effort to look into Vivax old game. In p#602
Greetign: weakest of the three, I feel like her emotions have been genuine. Dunno how to feel about the buddying
Kitty: weakest of them all, a town lean, their tone is genuine and maybe im weak to it.

Scummy vibes:
Dann: I feel like they kinda fell off since the beginning (I know I'm being a hypocrite)
Ari: I dunno how to feel about them trying to buddy everyone and her post have been agenda driven
Vivax: his tone and what not is not what I'm used to. He doesn't feel towny because he's missing his trademark tinfoil. I am sus of him
VOTE: vivax

In post 827, Roden wrote:VOTE: Vivax

I don't trust the Kitty wagon.

In post 824, Bell wrote:

In post 819, Aristeia wrote:also this is going to sound somewhat egotistic and possibly rub people the wrong way but my hit rate on day1 wagons is 70%[7/10 completed games where I am voting for the day 1 eliminated player, that player has flipped mafia.]



I can be a bit of a petulant child at times but it is generally because I am usually right.

Lol. 7/10.

In post 1212, Bell wrote:

In post 1149, Aristeia wrote:i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over

I have bad news.

In post 1150, Aristeia wrote:Bell's inactivity is a p bad look and points to him being probably just scum.

I think Dann decided to try to push Bell d1 to salvage the KT situation but when he couldn't get traction he basically gave up and bussed KT.

Dann probably figures if he flips here that gives Bell enough towncred tommorrow after he flips to somehow escape off distancing later down the line.

I'm busy.

In post 1151, Aristeia wrote:fire being one of the most vocal dann supporters with logic thats surface level correct is also kind of strange to me

like the principles he's using are correct but they're correct in a way that would be correct even if Dann flips scum here;

which feels like thats his primary consideration rather than who is town/scum within the Dann/Kuti dichotomy


everything is about loss, strategy, and like how a scum team looks at resources rather than

who is actually scum

Rather than trying to win by voting out who is scum, its all about mitigating a possible loss that creates a narrative further down the line that feels somewhat like putting the cart before the horse.

Sure.

In post 1505, Radical Rat wrote:[quote="In post 1462
Rat who do you think is scum that's not in the test right now?

In post 1472, Aristeia wrote:I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture

In post 1474, Aristeia wrote:it kind of almost feels like RR is in the same position Bell was in on D1

In post 1536, Radical Rat wrote:

In post 1532, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 1511, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 1502, Loki Dokie wrote:

Post Post #1212 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:35 pm

In post 1149, Aristeia wrote:

i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over

I have bad news.
~ Bell

So Bell was actually telling the truth here, he just meant that Ari was wrong on Dann not him.

@RR don’t you think this interaction with Ari and Bell looks antipartnery?

@RR?

Sorry, brain's been a bit scattered lately.

But no, not really. A toothless accusation on one Town and one partner, when only the Town is relevant in the moment, followed by Bell making a token "Not scum" statement. Seems like pretty standard stuff to me

In post 1701, Vivax wrote:

In post 1698, fireisredsir wrote:really my biggest doubt is that i question why RR picked ari over GL. i think there's more that imo clears ari here and i would have been at least tempted to vote GL over RR, tbh

i was hoping they would pick vivax cause that would be an easy vote

Who would pick, is the question?
Isn't RR supposed to be the last on their team?

In post 1514, Radical Rat wrote:

In post 1510, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 1508, Radical Rat wrote:The "I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture" is accusing me of being Vulture's partner, and daring me to vote them anyway, implying that she doesn't think I'll do it, and refusing to do so will make me look worse.

why would that be a threat to you if you're town?

Because as Town I still don't want to be scumread. Especially if we're wrong today, score's 2-2, and I wind up in the test. Trying to bait me into a vote this early, while also setting the stage to shade me later if I change my mind, is intended to set that up.

In post 307, Datisi wrote:

vote count 1.03

with 13 votes in play, it takes

7

to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).

yeet

Roden

[4]:

Dannflor, GuiltyLion, fireisredsir,

Aristeia

Vivax [2]:

Radical Rat

, furtiveglance

GuiltyLion [1]:

Donempire

Loki Dokie [1]:

Roden

furtiveglance [1]:

Vivax

not voting [4]:

KittyTacky, kutiplz, Bell

, Loki Dokie

mod notes

~ replacing Donempire.
~ this is a mod note.

In post 1714, fireisredsir wrote:it feels way too forced

In post 1317, Roden wrote:

In post 1242, Radical Rat wrote:Wait, what am I responding to?

In post 1098, Roden wrote:

In post 1056, Radical Rat wrote:

In post 1052, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 1047, Radical Rat wrote:

In post 1045, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1043, furtiveglance wrote:Well, so far it seems like GL and Loki are leaning towards Dannflor, and Fire/Vivax/RR are leaning towards kuti plz.

Anyway, follow up to this is I'd know who I'd rather vote with, regardless of who we're actually voting.

This actually does concern me as well. Unfortunately, I have concerns on both sides, and those concerns aren't likely to be alleviated until I get to see how Dann and kuti flip.

What are your concerns and who with?

Vivax is the obvious one. It worries me greatly that my top scumread from D1 has arrived at the same conclusion, but with so many scum it seems a bit farfetched that BOTH leading wagons were on scum. Plus if kuti IS scum it actually makes Vivax look significantly better.

And then I also have a growing paranoia that GL could be deepwolfing here, but that isn't really substantiated by anything yet. I just find it very strange that no one has really expressed suspicion on him. Like, you'd think at least one or two scum would be trying to sow doubt on a true obvtown. And then if Dannflor flips green.... Not a great look.


But without flips I can't really draw proper conclusions here. Kitty's flip is... Spectacularly uninformative, which is why there may have been merit to scum sacrificing him. This pair is going to be much juicier though

There've been a few slots that haven't had much suspicion on them, not just GL. Why him in particular?

In post 1318, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1316, Loki Dokie wrote:So, let me know if you want me to hammer Dann?

wait until Datisi is about to go to bed

In post 1319, Roden wrote:VOTE: kutiplz

In post 1716, Loki Dokie wrote:Ari also allowed fire to lead d3, which isn’t really something you expect scum to do.

In post 1719, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 1716, Loki Dokie wrote:Ari also allowed fire to lead d3, which isn’t really something you expect scum to do.

tbf she would specifically expect me to expect her not to do that as scum and that would be a reason why she might. i think if she was scum she knew bell was going down that day and didn't mind sheeping on a test that was already lost. so i don't think it's clearing in this case

but again, if she had that mindset, then why even pick furtive over someone else?

In post 1721, fireisredsir wrote:yea like if she's sacrificing bell i think she just puts him up against me or you or GL who isn't going to get eliminated and is kinda leading things

but RR/roden team might not have picked up on how unlikely it was for bell to win that test

In post 348, Bell wrote:

In post 346, Aristeia wrote:do you believe his inactivity is AI?

I can’t read Roden even when they do post.
So.