Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Cutty Shark]

Nothing in his recent iso sticks out as scummy. His point about you in 1505 is valid, and I want to hear why you changed your read about him.

This is the most fucking beetlejuicy player I think I've ever seen

-b

[fferyllt]

(hi tammy)

ffery

can you offer your take on all the Tammy stuff I've talked about? You are in a unique position because you know exactly my mindset in Vesperia since you occupied my slot and I was candid with you on stuff that never made it to the thread. I don't want to have to worry about that read (and I'm not terribly due to how she's interacted with pretty much everyone)

-b

bork, I've iso'd them, partly to get a feel for how they and four trouble are interacting.

I've had a couple recent chances to watch her scum game while knowing her alignment (on her scum team in a micro game, and modding a Newbie game where she was scum). What I seem to want to do when playing with her is to pattern-match her play against what I think is common to her scum games, and rule in/rule out a maybe-scum read on that basis.

IMO this is town-tammy.

I don't know if my method of developing the read will resonate, given where I'm coming from.

[Cutty Shark]

Will you please stop. Do you realize how fucking anti-town you are right now. I'm not 1v1'ing you. Why? Because I don't like too and two you always do this to titus. The two of you remind me of Mollie / fery and Mollie / Nacho. How you go at each others throat's until one is lynched and you aren't always right. So please stop. Titus isn't the only one in this hydra, I'm in this hydra and you are so fucking annoying that you aren't even bothering to interact with me nor is beast. You guys are just focused on getting us lynched.

Mala: when even you are pretty obviously dissonant with your partner's reads on the main slots she's pushing, you can't give me crap for failing to sync with you. What

do

you guys agree on (so maybe I can sync with just that)?

If you were me what would you do with your slot?

-b

[fferyllt]

bork are you townreading me?

[Cutty Shark]

bork, I've iso'd them, partly to get a feel for how they and four trouble are interacting.

I've had a couple recent chances to watch her scum game while knowing her alignment (on her scum team in a micro game, and modding a Newbie game where she was scum). What I seem to want to do when playing with her is to pattern-match her play against what I think is common to her scum games, and rule in/rule out a maybe-scum read on that basis.

IMO this is town-tammy.

I don't know if my method of developing the read will resonate, given where I'm coming from.

I think it's town Tammy as I've said, but I don't understand where the interaction with FT comes into it (and I don't know that I'd have expected you to go that route, given that FT is primarily an F-16 connection and you've got a pretty sizable Tammy experience just from games you've been in with me, much less other things)

It should also depend on what FT flips, and I find it a little weird that you're trying to read them both based on the other when you should know neither.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

bork are you townreading me?

You haven't done nearly enough for that and you should know that damn well.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

I'm kind of curious why you even asked me that.

-b

[fferyllt]

bork, I've iso'd them, partly to get a feel for how they and four trouble are interacting.

I've had a couple recent chances to watch her scum game while knowing her alignment (on her scum team in a micro game, and modding a Newbie game where she was scum). What I seem to want to do when playing with her is to pattern-match her play against what I think is common to her scum games, and rule in/rule out a maybe-scum read on that basis.

IMO this is town-tammy.

I don't know if my method of developing the read will resonate, given where I'm coming from.

I think it's town Tammy as I've said, but I don't understand where the interaction with FT comes into it (and I don't know that I'd have expected you to go that route, given that FT is primarily an F-16 connection and you've got a pretty sizable Tammy experience just from games you've been in with me, much less other things)

It should also depend on what FT flips, and I find it a little weird that you're trying to read them both based on the other when you should know neither.

-b

No, my point was that although I've been going over their ISO it was originally prompted by trying to figure out a quick way to decide how I feel about the biggest wagon. I don't want you to think that I've pored over their ISO in great detail yet. I'm not seeing the sort of stuff that I'd expect to see in a scum-Tammy ISO. I'm not sure how active F-16 has been. It seems like a lot of the iso is Tammy-posts.

[fferyllt]

bork are you townreading me?

You haven't done nearly enough for that and you should know that damn well.

-b

Good. I got a vibe that kind of put me off when I thought about your posts asking if I'd be around tonight, like you wanted to bounce ideas around before you'd done anything to nail down my alignment.

[Cutty Shark]

It seems like a lot of the iso is Tammy-posts.

It's mostly Tammy, yes. F-16 has been in information gathering mode but he's had spurts of analysis that I've found to be pretty poignant, but I'm mostly reading Tammy on tone.

-b

[fferyllt]

I'm kind of curious why you even asked me that.

-b

I thought the fastest way to resolve my niggle was to drag it into the middle of the room and shine a bright light on it.

2 days doesn't feel like much time to figure things out.

Everything I'm doing is in the interest of speeding up my sorting process. It's probably going to rub some folks who are used to me poking around for weeks the wrong way.

[Cutty Shark]

Good. I got a vibe that kind of put me off when I thought about your posts asking if I'd be around tonight, like you wanted to bounce ideas around before you'd done anything to nail down my alignment.

Well:

1) I have more experience with you than I do most people in this game.
2) I trust you to read me correctly when I'm town (you might sometimes false negative me when I'm scum, but I don't think you'd false positive me when I'm not.)
3) I think you're good at the game in general and want to see what you think about things.

I don't think any of this is unreasonable just because I don't know what you are yet.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Everything I'm doing is in the interest of speeding up my sorting process. It's probably going to rub some folks who are used to me poking around for weeks the wrong way.

My most recent experiences with you have been either 1) we share a slot 2) I'm scum and you're not 3) MOD ABADONED.

This is a bit of uncharted territory for the time being.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

I'm not seeing the sort of stuff that I'd expect to see in a scum-Tammy ISO.

What do you expect to see in a scum-tammy iso?

-b

[fferyllt]

Good. I got a vibe that kind of put me off when I thought about your posts asking if I'd be around tonight, like you wanted to bounce ideas around before you'd done anything to nail down my alignment.

Well:

1) I have more experience with you than I do most people in this game.
2) I trust you to read me correctly when I'm town (you might sometimes false negative me when I'm scum, but I don't think you'd false positive me when I'm not.)
3) I think you're good at the game in general and want to see what you think about things.

I don't think any of this is unreasonable just because I don't know what you are yet.

-b

It felt a little off the map, somehow. Your reaction to my question makes me feel better.

[fferyllt]

Everything I'm doing is in the interest of speeding up my sorting process. It's probably going to rub some folks who are used to me poking around for weeks the wrong way.

My most recent experiences with you have been either 1) we share a slot 2) I'm scum and you're not 3) MOD ABADONED.

This is a bit of

uncharted territory

for the time being.

-b

Good. I got a vibe that kind of put me off when I thought about your posts asking if I'd be around tonight, like you wanted to bounce ideas around before you'd done anything to nail down my alignment.

Well:

1) I have more experience with you than I do most people in this game.
2) I trust you to read me correctly when I'm town (you might sometimes false negative me when I'm scum, but I don't think you'd false positive me when I'm not.)
3) I think you're good at the game in general and want to see what you think about things.

I don't think any of this is unreasonable just because I don't know what you are yet.

-b

It felt a

little off the map

, somehow. Your reaction to my question makes me feel better.

lolled

[fferyllt]

I'm not seeing the sort of stuff that I'd expect to see in a scum-Tammy ISO.

What do you expect to see in a scum-tammy iso?

-b

Ask me sometime when we're hydraing. It's filed under "competitive advantage" for now.

[Cutty Shark]

That's a bit uncanny.

But seriously all I feel I said is 'I want to interact with you'

orcinus does this in a game and you don't bat an eye at it. I don't understand why that evoked a paranoid response in you.

-b

[gossamer wings]

Damn. I was hoping to know what to avoid.

[Cutty Shark]

Ask me sometime when we're hydraing. It's filed under "competitive advantage" for now.

If it's even possibly pertinent to this game I want to know now.

-b

[gossamer wings]

(hi bork)

don't mind me I'm just gazing.

[Cutty Shark]

Damn. I was hoping to know what to avoid.

The backseat driving is a little unnerving in a spot where I'd prefer not to be unnerved right now.

-b

p-edit: indeed.

[gossamer wings]

Damn. I was hoping to know what to avoid.

The backseat driving is a little unnerving in a spot where I'd prefer not to be unnerved right now.

-b

p-edit: indeed.

Not sure what you're referring to. I was hoping she'd spill what she learned though.

[fferyllt]

Ask me sometime when we're hydraing. It's filed under "competitive advantage" for now.

If it's even possibly pertinent to this game I want to know now.

-b

It's not pertinent IMO. She'll find out what I'm looking for in her scum game when I think she's scum and I'm trying to get her lynched.

[Cutty Shark]

Not sure what you're referring to. I was hoping she'd spill what she learned though.

I just feel like you're hovering over the thread atm and interjecting with stuff when it happens to be about you and no other time.

-b