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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:42 am
by jasonT1981
Forgot to note - Prods will go out at Midnight UK time.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:02 am
by TheWayItEnds
T S O wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:
T S O wrote:If I was calling a scumteam right now, it'd probably be something like Klingon/EE/Alch/lurker that I haven't decided yet/lurker #2. I don't find many active players to be scummy right now.

Lurker pool is something like {PV, MOHIS, IAI, inte, TWIE}.


wow im hurt.


You know that I secretly adore your roguish charm.


I just like to hear you say it.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:29 am
by Dapper Stranger
T S O wrote:AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.


If a man isn't making it through the night reevaluate this read. He is noting she is likes to be wrong in thread as scum and isn't liking that one's contradictory read on us. A man is giving a specific example if must needs.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:54 am
by T S O
Well, in the world where you're right on all your reads you'd seem to be the optimum nightkill, so you may as well give the meta example.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:03 am
by Elyse
@Fresh
He didn't respond to my latest post when I called him out on his shitty vote

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:18 am
by Randomnamechange
There wasn't anything to respond to.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:37 am
by T S O
Elyse, what response did you expect?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:45 am
by Dapper Stranger
T S O wrote:Well, in the world where you're right on all your reads you'd seem to be the optimum nightkill, so you may as well give the meta example.

A man isn't talking about meta. A man is talking about that one saying a man may be scum while acknowledging he's town.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:49 am
by Dapper Stranger
Aunt Jemina wrote:
Dapper Stranger wrote:Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...
Oh, one of us is protecting scum and pushing town alright, but it sure isn't this old lady.


In the context of replying to a man's accusation this one as town is protecting scum, this reply is saying that's what a man is doing. In order for a man to take this action he is necessarily town. This is showing AJ knows a man is town and yet that one is saying he may be scum.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:39 am
by T S O
Scum can protect scum and push town as well, I have no idea why you'd feel that can't be true.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:01 am
by Dapper Stranger
Context. Read the context.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:27 am
by grapes
I'm caught up mostly. If anybody wants to ask me some stuff and help me get engaged that would be cool.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:28 am
by grapes
Hey random, you should get back on spiff. I don't think your elyse vote is going anywhere.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:49 am
by Alchemist21
grapes wrote:I'm caught up mostly. If anybody wants to ask me some stuff and help me get engaged that would be cool.


What are your current reads?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:14 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:-Can you quote, or point out, or make some sort of attempt at showing where I have been "jumping all over the place?" I think this is the fourth time I've asked, and you continue to disappoint.
-The way you're grouping scumteams is idiotic. This isn't me being arrogant or something, it's the truth. But we can simply wait until postgame for it to be shown up, so I digress.
-Do you actually believe Klingon is scum? Or is it some ill-founded attempt to further your scumread on PS? If it's the latter, please get the fuck off the wagon now.
-Why are you voting Klingon? I want specific reasons.
-Do you think that the way you continually attempt to pressure flip conversations is indicative of your alignment?
-In post #1514, you say that I'm unvoting Klingon because of her alignment, but it's not clear why. Can you expand on this scenario in detail? It seems like the best reason to scumread me you have, yet you're curiously reticent about it.
-If my arrogance is blinding me, then why are you currently sheeping my reads and voting Klingon?
-Is it difficult to reconcile your scumread of PS with your apparent scumread on Klingon?


I am not answering the first question unless someone else asks me because I think everyone else sees what I'm talking about.


Do you legitimately not see that I'm not voting Klingon?
T S O wrote:If I was calling a scumteam right now, it'd probably be something like Klingon/EE/Alch/lurker that I haven't decided yet/lurker #2. I don't find many active players to be scummy right now.

Lurker pool is something like {PV, MOHIS, IAI, inte, TWIE}.

No, that's not it. Not even close, IMO. Too much lurk, and Klingon isn't scum

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:16 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Now that that's over with:

VOTE: Elyse

I liked this wagon. I was comfortable here. I'll move again maybe with dapper, but for now I like this.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:17 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Also TSO you merely proved my point about not reading the thread when you made your entire post about voting Klingon, which is something I am not currently doing or interested in doing.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:30 pm
by T S O
You literally didn't answer one question. That's impressive work.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:31 pm
by Spifflop
Hey guys I took a break from this game but now I'm back and better than ever.

...whenever I decide to catch up.

~Spiffy

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:39 pm
by T S O
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
T S O wrote:-Can you quote, or point out, or make some sort of attempt at showing where I have been "jumping all over the place?" I think this is the fourth time I've asked, and you continue to disappoint.
-The way you're grouping scumteams is idiotic. This isn't me being arrogant or something, it's the truth. But we can simply wait until postgame for it to be shown up, so I digress.
-Do you actually believe Klingon is scum? Or is it some ill-founded attempt to further your scumread on PS? If it's the latter, please get the fuck off the wagon now.
-Why are you voting Klingon? I want specific reasons.
-Do you think that the way you continually attempt to pressure flip conversations is indicative of your alignment?
-In post #1514, you say that I'm unvoting Klingon because of her alignment, but it's not clear why. Can you expand on this scenario in detail? It seems like the best reason to scumread me you have, yet you're curiously reticent about it.
-If my arrogance is blinding me, then why are you currently sheeping my reads and voting Klingon?
-Is it difficult to reconcile your scumread of PS with your apparent scumread on Klingon?


I am not answering the first question unless someone else asks me


Do you really think this will deter me? There are many people in the game who'll do this if I simply request it of them. The only thing it does is buy you time to formulate a decent-looking lie.

I also appreciate you answering nothing at all. It turns out I had overestimated you. I had predicted that you'd attempt to answer
something
, but evidently you decided it just wasn't worth maintaining the facade. An admirable choice, if foolhardy.

Extrapolated Eagle wrote:because I think everyone else sees what I'm talking about.


It's quite odd that you go to such efforts to not answer my question, if it's so obvious that everyone can see it. It's almost as if you don't have a response or something.

Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Do you legitimately not see that I'm not voting Klingon?


I could care less where you're voting at present. I'm asking you to back up the vote you made in the past. So far, you've shown a complete inability to do that.

Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
T S O wrote:If I was calling a scumteam right now, it'd probably be something like Klingon/EE/Alch/lurker that I haven't decided yet/lurker #2. I don't find many active players to be scummy right now.

Lurker pool is something like {PV, MOHIS, IAI, inte, TWIE}.

No, that's not it. Not even close, IMO. Too much lurk


The scumteam I'm calling has two lurkers. A scumteam you called here also has two lurkers.

You show that you are literally not able to keep up with your reads when you say things like this.

Extrapolated Eagle wrote:and Klingon isn't scum


So, can you explain the evolution of your Klingon read now? Because it gets more miraculous by the day. From not scum, to scum, to not scum again. I can't wait to hear the full story.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:40 pm
by T S O
My god, Eagle's need for rope increases by the day.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:42 pm
by T S O
Jaqen - link me your Spifflop case? You can quote it, but it's too late in the day for me to go foraging through your ISO for it.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:47 pm
by Spifflop
It's here.

Have a bucket at the ready for when you vomit.

~Spiffy

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:48 pm
by T S O
Alchemist21 wrote:
I have Townreads of varying strengths on Garmr, Peregrine, AJ, Elyse, Other Head, and Eagle.


Why were you townreading Peregrine?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:49 pm
by T S O
Spifflop wrote:It's here.

Have a bucket at the ready for when you vomit.

~Spiffy


Excellent, I'll look at it tomorrow.

Also, commiserations to hiplop - I forgot to mention that previously.