Mini Normal 1823 - Game Over

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:49 pm

In post 1724, texcat wrote:
In post 1721, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Going over kills is one of my least fav things in the game cause of how many bs reasons there can be to a kill but knock yourself out.
It's certainly one of the least productive, but I always find myself examining it anyway.

Oh trust me I do a bit to but I've seen people vote and lead based on the nightkill and I'm like...you moron

gerryoat · Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:31 pm

why isnt texcat lynched yet? when i come back i hope he's lynched.

gerryoat · Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:32 pm

sonia you said you'd lynch tex today, but your vote remains on me. Vote my partner, I'm bussing him.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:38 pm

In post 1727, gerryoat wrote:sonia you said you'd lynch tex today, but your vote remains on me. Vote my partner, I'm bussing him.

How sure are you on them being scum 1-10 this is gonna help me

Saru · Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 1723, BlackStar wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=64085
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=64698
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66474 (wasn't lynched here but was dangerously close to it like 3 times on day one)

Alright, so let's see what we have here.

The first one is a newbie game. Your first game ever of mafia, I presume, by the way you were asking basic questions. This is a TERRIBLE sample to show right off the bat. The majority of the players in that game were newbies themselves at the time, so one can confidently say that their reads aren't going to be all that well developed. They'll look at the tiniest thing to scum read someone, because they want to be UBER L33T scum hunters. Unless you think me noticing that you've put naked votes on all 4 major wagons is just pointing out tiny things, I don't really think comparing my scum read on you to newbies' scum read of you is a fair comparison. I'm not going to give this game much weight, if at all.

Second game is a blitz game. Again, this is not really a great sample due to it's nature. Even after reading through the thread, I don't see much in the way of actual scum hunting from players on D1. Seems like most of them were concerned with getting a lynch out before the deadline(it is a blitz after all) rather than actually taking the time to make competent cases on people. And I don't really think people lynched you JUST BECAUSE they were scum reading you(a few of them even voted you REGARDLESS of them having a TR on you). Again, I don't think my scum read of you comes from any kind of want to lynch before a deadline. Comparing my scum read of you in this game to a blitz is no bueno. Sorry amigo.

And, finally, the last game, an actual sample. Finally. Thank you. I'm not going to read through 213 pages, so if you can tell me why you think people were scum reading you on D1 and why you were almost lynched 3 times, that'd be nice. Specifically if you can quote me posts where people were scum reading you for pushing major wagons for little to no reasoning, that'd be even better. Essentially, I'm looking to see if your "scummy townie" play here(as you asserted on D1) matches up with any of your past games. Supposedly "80%." If I see a clear pattern of you doing this, then I'd be willing to say "oh that's just how BlackStar plays as town, no biggie" but I really doubt that is the case. Feel free to prove me wrong.

BlackStar · Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:57 pm

In that last one, I replaced out when day 1 ended so its not like you need to read all of it. Someon made what looked like a scum slip and a wagon started to form. One person said "We found scum guys, lets lynch him!" or something to that effect and then I said "Do you really think scum would make it that easy to find them?" and then throughout the day people kept trying to say that I was defending that scummy guy so that meant the two of us were scum buddies. And when I'm under pressure, people say that I react badly and use bad logic so then more people scum read me. When I got to L-2 I self voted to get the wagon off me and it worked and then it came back on me later for some reason I don't remember. If you want to see if my playstyle lines up in this game with my usual town play, look at any of my games. I only have one scum game. Its here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=64831

TierShift · Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:23 pm

Saru is playing like shit and basing 2/3 of his reads off of preflip interactions which is really really bad

I'm rethinking this town read

TierShift · Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:24 pm

Saru don't do dry meta pls tyvm

I'm not really happy with this texcat wagon especially since texcat just seems relaxed and chats about whatever subject he seems fit

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:41 pm

Sonia the fact that your read on me hasnt changed despite me obvtowning the fuck out of this slot AND that you arent voting texcat right now tells me youre either scum or not thinking very intelligently.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:44 pm

texcat ignored p much all of my case, singled one part of it out to try and attack, failed miserably, went back to ignoring
tiershift said it wasnt a case and when I pushed back at that he went silent and didnt even respond to my post
I didnt read saru's wall earlier but their vote was bad so bleh
Sonia is making my brain numb
Xkyfu ^
Blackstar is probably town cause his posts feel genuine

Saru · Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 1731, TierShift wrote:Saru is playing like shit and basing 2/3 of his reads off of preflip interactions which is really really bad

I'm rethinking this town read

So what about my read on you then? Is that bad as well? And why exactly? Be specific(I know that's not your forte, but try).

You apparently don't like the Texcat wagon, but also haven't really explained why Dwlee's case on Texcat was bad. You said it wasn't even a case, but didn't even explain why. Texcat also said she didn't agree with my scum read on you, but didn't explain why.

Also don't like Texcat's whole "Saru is the voice of reason" but then "meh his Tier scum read is wrong."

Not liking this butt-fucking between you two.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: texcat
If this flips red, I'm voting vulture boy next.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:27 pm

Votecount 2.01

gerryoat (1)

xSoniaNevermindx ,

texcat (4)

dwlee99 , gerryoat , BlackStar , Saru ,

dwlee99 (1)

Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (5)

Vedith , TierShift , algebra , Mimikyu , texcat ,

Deadline is on Monday, September 6th: (expired on 2016-09-06 11:00:00)

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

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xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:08 pm

This worries me cause the tex vote seems really easy with 0 resistance but then again tex still can't town tell do I won't vote tonight but I'll think on it (doesn't help a sr I have is strongarming the lynch)

Dw the more you say you're obviously town the more I want you lynched

Vedith · Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:21 pm

VOTE: Texcat

Sonia STFU.

L1.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:34 pm

k def not voting Tex now that ALL of my sr's are

Vedith · Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:50 pm

In post 1739, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:k def not voting Tex now that ALL of my sr's are

I think Sonia is scum.

Vedith · Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:50 pm

@Gerry - How well do you know Sonia's play?

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:54 pm

In post 1740, Vedith wrote:
In post 1739, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:k def not voting Tex now that ALL of my sr's are
I think Sonia is scum.

Awwww are you trying to scumread me now that your attempts to buddy me aren't working?

Vedith · Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:55 pm

In post 1742, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Awwww are you trying to scumread me now that your attempts to buddy me aren't working?

Something along those lines...

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:56 pm

In post 1741, Vedith wrote:@Gerry - How well do you know Sonia's play?

Gerry knows my play better than anyone Ironically we end up scumreading each other a ton still.

You also need to eat rope for such bs reads

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:56 pm

Ved wanna play a game with me?

Vedith · Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:05 pm

In post 1745, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Ved wanna play a game with me?

No.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:14 pm

In post 1746, Vedith wrote:
In post 1745, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Ved wanna play a game with me?
No.

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you sr tex

Vedith · Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:32 pm

In post 1747, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1746, Vedith wrote:
In post 1745, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Ved wanna play a game with me?
No.
On a scale of 1-10 how much do you sr tex

High enough to believe he is scum.
I also think you're trying to sell all of this fake AtE and trying to divert from your buddies.
You voted Trans then started blaming others for voting him.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:35 pm

In post 1748, Vedith wrote:
In post 1747, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1746, Vedith wrote:
In post 1745, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Ved wanna play a game with me?
No.
On a scale of 1-10 how much do you sr tex
High enough to believe he is scum.
I also think you're trying to sell all of this fake AtE and trying to divert from your buddies.
You voted Trans then started blaming others for voting him.

Stop putting words in my mouth I've said this 4 times today: I take blame for starting the transcend lynch and it's mainly my fault
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ALL MY FAULT
Anyone who keeps trying to make that claim is trying to get attention off themselves

Also answer me this:

Do you really think I'd hardcore push for my friends push who had me as hard town as mafia? When if I was mafia I could of just kept on stringing him along?
Thought so.