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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:42 pm
by StefanB
P-Edit:
In post 1712, Ausuka wrote:StefanB has basically no AI associatives which annoys me.

I should ISO theta.
Sorry.
gammagooey [you have made some good points recently and you noticed the flaws with the plan that had already been proposed]
light ganski [thoughts on you being town have already been made]
davsto [a lot of good points and you also noticed the flaw with the plan austerity made]
the worst [this is town basically all of the time for reasons already explained]
I would be very suprised if Thetas planned endgame, has no scum in it. There has to be a way that her plan leed to a scumwin, or there had to be a scumagenda.

Next two (on her survival list were Winged (a towny) and me.
lovebird [their posting today has been wtf]
vaxkiller [not someone i am confident is town]
austerity [your suggestion results in a town auto-loss as detailed in the previous part of my post]
ausuka [your kill yesterday was on a traitor and also from the hopefully dead team so no more town points for it]
Now Austerity was scum from the other team. We have one goon left and a traitor who is anyones guess, I feel the goon is probably not in the bottomhalf, thoughts?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:43 pm
by Ausuka
In post 1723, the worst wrote:No I'm saying I think my take on Davsto was jank
Ok sure so you think he's munitions? Is he the only one?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:43 pm
by the worst
What makes you think Grits isn't finished?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:43 pm
by StefanB
Sorry deleted the p-edit because it made no sense after the next one.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:44 pm
by light_ganski
Okay Wi-Fi is shit and I'm phoneposting so I'll be brief for now

Ausuka could be traitor IMO but it's very unlikely and she's def not groupscum. My instant thoughts on her ISO were mainly paranoia (and I've been paranoid about her since D1) but I'm pretty sure she's town rn

Worst isn't munitions

Think munitions goon(s) are in davsto and possibly vax

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:44 pm
by the worst
In post 1729, light_ganski wrote:Think munitions goon(s) are in davsto and possibly vax

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:44 pm
by Ausuka
It's not your fault it's just annoying because you're basically at complete null.

And yeah there's munitions in {tw, ganski, davsto, gamma} and I sincerely doubt that it's the duckling. In fact there's probably 2.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:45 pm
by the worst
I actually like Vax for munitions.

Ganski is one tr tier under lovebird.
Gamma one tr tier under her.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:46 pm
by Ausuka
so the current theories I'm going with are light/gamma and dav/{gamma, vax} for munitions.

I'm still supposed to be grits hunting but this activity is beautiful and I don't wanna waste it lol.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:46 pm
by Ausuka
Vax for munitions isn't a bad call. He was attacking NM too.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:46 pm
by the worst
In post 1727, the worst wrote:What makes you think Grits isn't finished?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:48 pm
by light_ganski
I'm fine with shooting davsto in the very near future

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:48 pm
by Ausuka
But yeah finding Grits will help clear this all up. I think there's likely 2+ munitions in a) theta's readslist and b) theta's chainlynching thing.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:48 pm
by the worst
In post 1735, the worst wrote:
In post 1727, the worst wrote:What makes you think Grits isn't finished?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:49 pm
by Ausuka
But yeah finding Grits will help clear this all up. I think there's likely 2+ munitions in a) theta's readslist and b) theta's chainlynching thing.

The flavour makes it obvious. And no, the flavour isn't going to be an outright lie. When Grits finishes I'm sure we'll be told about it.
Don't you think that it's unlikely the flavour would just lie to us?
And that there would be 4 scum, ONE OF WHICH IS A TRAITOR, in a 43p game?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:50 pm
by Ausuka
Sorry, internet broke and I meant to add the answer to that post.

But yeah we definitely still have 1 grits IMO. It makes the most sense by far.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:50 pm
by the worst
3 goon + 1 traitor Grits flips
2 going Munitions flips

....? if 2 Munitions there's probably no more Grits?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:51 pm
by the worst
Hmm I strongly strongly disagree about flavour. In my experience with xyzzy they give away the smallest amount of information possible for the game to be intriguing and enjoyable. But let's try it.....

@mod -- will there be any "faction death" flavour or flavour which indicates things about the current gamestate?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:53 pm
by Ausuka
Traditional multiball numbers of scum can be gained by dividing playerlist number by 3.5.

For example:
13 / 3.5 = 3.71428571 (4 scum, 2 on each team; this is standard.)
21/3.5 = 6 (6 scum, 3 on each team; this is also standard.)

43 / 3.5 = 12.2857143 (12 scum, 6 on each team)

I'm willing to believe that the numbers would be reduced a little due to a) the somewhat vanilla nature of the game and b) the probs -town EV mechanic.

But I'm not willing to believe we have 3.5 scum on a team. Full stop.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:54 pm
by the worst
that's not factoring in a sk

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:54 pm
by the worst
SK = 凸(-_-)凸 ev of all other factions

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:55 pm
by Ausuka
What big modifications do you feel need to be made? Because from what I've always seen, when mods add SK, it doesn't change the number of mainstream scum in the game.

I have seen a large with 3 scum/3 scum/1 sk
I have seen multiple minis with 3 scum/1 sk

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:56 pm
by Ausuka
In post 1745, the worst wrote:SK = 凸(-_-)凸 ev of all other factions
Yeah, ALL other factions. There's no need to make the game more sided towards town or scum because of a role that damages them both.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:58 pm
by Ausuka
In post 490, StefanB wrote: Taly defintitly widly townread.
Looking good so far: Iconeum
Hey Stefan, can you explain these reads please?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:01 pm
by the worst
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