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I don't know why pushed the entrance that he's scum 22 and 79 in hindsight.
Also, him asking why he isn't voting him in light of this feels a bit off 84

I don't get 112 where he townreads but proceeds to point out why scumread is town and votes with confidence that he's scum.

115 agrees with assessment, but goes further and says that is LAMIST...
125 points out that this buzzword is unhelpful but that doesn't factor in his read or make him question .

232 expresses he doesn't understand how was posting well as said, but then turns around and votes 233 after townreading .

Literally nothing for either 3 of them for 200 posts.
423 is basically realizing just how low his content is.

464 re-evaluates and townreads while questioning the scumread.

474 is where gives his thoughts on posts that were 200+ POSTS AGO.
Like , he reiterates how entrance is unlikely to be town, but minimizes self-vote as a throwaway joke with little ground.
Says and are town to an extent
States that is a scumpost but doesn't elaborate or push it.

507 literally keeps up this stance with of without actually trying to understand why the scumread is there or looking into motives for it... Does not give anything worthwhile when is mentioned.

...eww.

514 Literally is doing what is in a different way - deflecting from the scumreads on her without actually evaluating them. Takes it a step further to distance herself and invalidate the reads on 515 without explaining why.
527 states that it's difficult to gamesolve with the game content, but doesn't ask questions or try to resolve that issue.
528 With really no other prompt brings up that she wasn't fond of and 's responses and says they haven't posted content...
...while this is likely true at the time, I'm of the opinion is that she posted this to strengthen her previous two posts in why scumreading her is not effective.

569 is another post-by-post link on things that aren't fully caught up to the game yet, but he IS showing consistent read progression.
Townreads
Asks about her townread on
Asks on her thoughts of the gamestate and her reads.

580 brings up an argument for -scum based off her gameplay to
Never votes
Again, stings at read of him by saying it's weaksauce but doing nothing about it.
This post just feels like it was made to create doubt and muddy the game.
583 Is an expansion of this thought, but where was the follow-up?

586 and 587 is defending her townread on and brings up her scumreads...
Where's her vote on any of them?

596 is another post and the more I read him, the better I'm starting to feel about his alignment. Let's deduce facts here. He's also up-to-date with posts now.
Brings up how response isn't good but elabroates on why it isn't.
Isn't a fan of a post, and explains why.
Reverses on his townread but shows the multiple posts that led him to this thought.
Townreads
States that a post can seem bussy between , something to note.

625 disregards talking about his scumreads, and to hell with whoever he's townreading, but he's openly giving a reality on how is scum but doesn't act on that.
627 votes for lackluster posts but provides even more lackluster reasoning imo. What about his previous scumreads on and the slot?
629 Seems confused by something said...?
636 Drops his push on , and pretty much votes me because I said my slot was town and that made me feel better about meta-reading in the future...

655 and 657 it is VERY unclear who is talking about here. Even he was talking about , I don't feel to keen on saying someone's posts are

718 Oh look, posting a scumread on while asking me questions.
Didn't she already say she felt was scum, alongside and earlier??? If I'm misreading? I don't know where her reads are at and her vote's not following it since it's not being used.

736 expresses his dislike for posting again.

767 votes out of her presumably multiple suspects because... becoming the playerlist's public enemy?
If she really thought were scum, why is she voting him for ?

With this... I kind of feel like was intended to be a counterwagon to town-. 769, 770, and 774 is her saying that she doesn't want votes on him prior to a response.

follows suit on wagon with 781 and 781, but he's actually providing reason to his insights, so it's easier following him.

794 and 795 finally decides that is playing poorly and not scum without reasoning... and says he'll probably change his mind again tomorrow, so his post is effectively useless, as was his read originally. He also points out once again on why people are townreading him, but he doesn't confront an individual. It just sounds like there's no real reason for him to be townread, and he knows it.
But he doesn't do anything to change that.

801 is saying is lining up mislynches through his honeypot, but doesn't expand on her individual thoughts on the reads/names he brought up.
852 and 853 is focused on people's scumreads on her again, while stating how scummy reads are
...yawn.

924 is perpetuating that response to me is not good.
gives reads in 927 but they're vague and don't really help anyone decipher why she comes to her conclusions.

930 giving , a townread, the benefit of the doubt actually rings to me as natural.

Not fond of the follow up 931, why is bad to want to lynch someone's scumleans? seems to have little stated reasoning behind her scumreads but has PLENTY of people in her list.

965 - I don't quite get this post from a SvS POV, it just seems like she's adding to the suspicion on him here.

981 The only reason has for justifying her votes and scumreads is something being like it's supposed to be this elabroate case when in reality she's not doing anything to ratify her thoughts.
983 FINALLY expands on what means to her, but then also talks about it being odd that is pushing her and , and while it IS true technically...
...Why is concerned about read on and not read on the MANY other people he's suspected, including her other townreads like and etc.

I can see THIS post being a SvS associative.

1000 alive and weakly dismisses again.
1031 never follows up with replying to him, she doesn't explain about how was a towny-reaction to pressure where were not.
1071 Weak townread on me based off writing me off as emotional...
1073 calls for a flashwagon on out of the blue and to say that has been fluffposting in this game makes me question if he's actually reading it.
also doesn't pay attention to the wagon here.
1079 is taking more shots at becuase why not?

I don't know why are collectively townreading me as I was pushing when nobody was liking that wagon, it feels a bit fake.

is townreading both and 1087 and 1088 even in light of post 1086 which didn't do anything.

The next several posts in the ISO is literally having more problems with but never doing anything about it.

Post-claim, and etc. this ends in and voting in 1266 and 1268 very close between each other. With neither of them questioning this, despite game-long townread on for not much new reasoning, and gut scumreading but never saying anytihng else about it... this is their EoD1 votes.

doesn't defend his townread on me or his other reads commented on in 1302 and 1317
Instead, he entertains the reality on why we aren't linked together... feels like it's to muddy the waters on iffy EoD reads even more unclear.

3 man scum team, taly?

I mean, 3 person scumteam isn't unusual for 17-18p.

And with the chance of an SK or 3p being here, I'm think 3p scum is MORE likely at the moment.

At the very least, I just think

What do you think of hewhoswims again?

I'll read him indvidually tomorrow and see how it works with my general reads atm, I'm a bit burnt out.

I don't see anything that explicitly points to scum, but not much to point to town.

In post 1695, Andrius wrote:I'll take that with a grain of salt given Pine is modding this game.

In post 1694, brassherald wrote:Redirectors are explicitly non normal.

Heads up btw

I work 6 hours tomorrow + driving lesson. And on Sunday I work 4 + I want to watch the world cup final...

I will be reading up on everything from here but I missed like 12 pages since daystart... I'll try to catch up but if someone wants to point out something REALLY important that needs me now.. Please go ahead.

Also @chick @tw can we have an answer to my earlier question

I'm at least 15 pages back because y'all need to shut the fuck up

Andrius the last few pages phew oh boy
pants on head is a trending fashion in 2018 I guess?

In post 1692, HeWhoSwims wrote:Chick/tw did you guys have modifiers? So many roles have and perhaps it's good to have yours too if you have them.

my modifier is

considering town power I'd say be prepared for upwards of 5 scumfucks but that's a good assessment Taly

Why is more likely scum and/or a better lynch than or ?

Also is an alt?
If so is he ?

Also

If we have 5 scum, we are probably looking at a 3p role, OR a traitor, OR a negative utility Mafia role, potentially.

Because that means this is 12:5 which holy fuck

But this is ALL I'm going to say about 5 non-town players UNLESS we are in that situation.

sooooooo I'm townreading MoI/Andrius/Ausuka/Rask - how unlikely is it for there to be two loyal fruit vendors? Because I'd really like to keep four strong town reads
I'm actually townreading HitAlt now; really don't like how T_W came off in those interactions; could get behind leashing the SK though
I believe Chickadee's vengeful claim considering the post on D1 stating she'd be a good lynch on D2/D3; don't really see it as a hail mary like MoI said due to that early crumb
I can believe that the xyzzy wagon was a counterwagon; I already said there's likely scum on it before and with HitAlt/Chickadee as townreads now I can see Elbirn as scum
xyzzy still likely town esp if elbirn is scum

I can see HWS as scum through PoE

also yall are posting too much

In post 1739, Taly wrote:

TW

Why is

Hit

more likely scum and/or a better lynch than

Elbirn

or

Sky

?

Also is

Hit

an alt?
If so is he

OnTheMark

?

do you not find the way he claimed a guilty in me super super gross? or

he is an alt I asked the same thing the first time

anddddd I have no reason to strongly believe he isn't
but gut says no?
but my gut has been wrong one time before

If I had to pick between Ausuka/MoI I'd actually pick MoI as scum at this point. I don't like how he sussed Chicka after that claim. Also I find it hard to believe scum-Ausuka would cc like that?? Unless it's to get a mislynch on a dangerous town player?? But I don't see Ausuka doing that if they just lost a scum partner and I'm kind of paranoid about MoI after realizing how dangerous of a scum player he apparently is.

Granted town-MoI fruiting Andrius makes sense to me, though

I mean yeah did a really shady ass thing in pulling your teeth for the claim and that makes me second guess him to a degree.

But I want to powerlynch useless players who have huge associations to and let all these claims sort themselves out

Yet up until your claim happening , I couldn't see a straightforward reality where you were town and i am no longer suspicious of a few people right now because of said claim.

And on top of the invest claim, I don't think lynching is optimal at the moment.

Id much rather see how his next result works IF the Mafia doesn't shoot him because he's basically willingly put a bullseye on his head if he is town.

But you were correct on being a scum PR, so I'm open to hearing how is scum PR as well

Funny that continued with saying we all post too much while not even acknowledging my whole assessment post or mention a read on me, but then votes

But meh, what do I know.

I think I found some profound reason to scumread Hit at the bottom of a couple of bottles of wine last night but I honestly can't recall it. I'll join you here.

VOTE: Elbirn

@Taly: Your assessment on Elbirn/xyzzy is good hence the parrotting

Your assessment on me not so much but w/e