micro 840: mystery box of silver (this is over)

[Mephistophanes 39]

How do we know that Schadd didn’t do this?

I'm not sure what you mean.
How do we know that schadd gave me the role awakener?
Because it's my fucking role.
I targeted [REDACTED].
[REDACTED] had their role changed.
This is a fact.
I was not responsible for skitter's role change.
[REDACTED] would be able to verify that their role changed. If they claimed, then by virtue of their role changing, it proves that two people have claimed a role change, and I am claiming responsibility for one of them.

Which automatically.
Means.
Either I am scum that somehow KNEW about [REDACTED]'s role change.
I am scum with [REDACTED] and in spite of a VERY consistent track record of fakeclaiming we decided to bank the game on one.
OR.
That I did exactly what I fucking claimed I did.
And targeted [REDACTED] for the role change.

If your not reponsible for Skitter’s rolechange, why should we believe your claim?

Because there is a player who can and would vouch for me if I outed their identity? The problem is, that would out that they have a changed role, marking them for a fucking nightkill--the very thing I am trying to avoid.

And what would you say, if Nibbul denies they had a role change?

Nibbui's dead. Nibbui died before the role change would go through; for Nibbui's role to have changed, Nibbui would need to have lived through the night. And HAD Nibbui lived through the night, I would not be claiming I targeted Nibbui; I would be claiming I targeted [REDACTED] D1 and [REDACTED] N1. I was always planning on claiming D2 the moment the mod told me that my power would work even if I were lynched.

But Skitter and us had our rolechanged. How do you account for that?

[skitter30]

Either I am scum that somehow KNEW about [REDACTED]'s role change.

this actually could be a thing too; schadd likes informed setups i think

[Mephistophanes 39]

P.edit. What if more people than Skitter had a role change? It points to your claim as not being legit, since according to your claim, only one player ought to have had their rolechanged, correct?

So, who changed Skitter’s then, according to you?

thematically i'm pretty sure there's just one role change (ie i got the mystery box of silver and the role that i got is like the 'gimmick' of the setup and other prs wouuld make the setup kinda weird; but i suppose it's entirely possible that i'm just wrong about analyzing it from this pov but i don't think i am)

eh if nancy did get another role maybe i'm wrong and the whole setup is a bunch of people getting new roles/having their role chagned, and not the gimmick i thought it was

(or nancy is scum with mastina, idk)

I was voting Mastina, remember?

[Slaxx]

I wouldn’t try to wifom the mod.

What a shit show.

[Slaxx]

Meph it’s mechanically possible to vote your buddy

Come on

[Mephistophanes 39]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Skitter and us, weren’t the only ones who had role changes last night.

[skitter30]

anyways for the role you're claiming, do you know what you give out or is it just mystic 'true role' stuff?

If I knew what I was giving out, this is something I'd be able to 'crumb to my target.

I do not.

I lowkey suspected that this game was a form of mountainous role madness--where everyone started with no PR, but my role was meant to give three players a PR, and each player I targeted has a power unique to them.

(Which, mind you, was why I thought the worst was full of shit with his claim.)

Since the mafia gave you a power role, I don't think I'm very far off my mark on that.

yeah i picked up on that overnight when i reread the thread from the new 'scum are giving out prs!' perspective

ok why did you pick nibbui last night?

ngl your role if true is like ridiculously swingy for a micro in conjunction iwth my role

[mastina]

P.edit. What if more people than Skitter had a role change? It points to your claim as not being legit, since according to your claim, only one player ought to have had their rolechanged, correct?
So, who changed Skitter’s then, according to you?

According to skitter, the scum.
But there is one player whose role changed, and only one, and they should know why I targeted them.
There shouldn't be more than one, because if there were more than [MY TARGET] and skitter...who would be responsible for the third? This is a micro, there's only so many players in it. Two scum + me + three players' roles changing = 7/9. In other words.
You can be assured.
There's not more than one, because [MY TARGET] was it. And [MY TARGET] was not skitter.

i also went down the wifom hole and thought of the possibility that scum didn't know what they were giving me but they def did, per schadd, in case anyone's wondering. they specifically chose to give it to me; it was not randomized, and they knew what they were giving out

That's kinda proof that my role exists though? Because I made it clear from the onset how mine works.

[skitter30]

I wouldn’t try to wifom the mod.

What a shit show.

yeah idk the setup from my pov suddenly became very ... idk the right word - neat and elegant if that's the whole gimmick
other people getting role changes i a) don't entirely believe happened b) makes the setup a lot messier from my pov rn

[mastina]

But Skitter and us had our rolechanged. How do you account for that?

BECAUSE YOU WERE MY FUCKING TARGET HOW DENSE CAN YOU BE

[Mephistophanes 39]

Meph it’s mechanically possible to vote your buddy

Come on

Except I didn’t and I didn’t vote NM or Kokichi in Starcraft either, who I also tried to stop mislynches on.

I didn’t just not vote, I actively tried to stop that lynch. I understand why Skitter didn’t buy it, because she already knew tw was scum in that game but I would have still hard townread him here regardless because his D1 play was 180 degrees different here than it was in Starcraft.

[skitter30]

also like what would have happened if you and scum targeted the same person yesterday? my role doesn't make sense in conjunction with being given other things really

like if you had unlocked my true role or whatever and scum also gave me their box of goodies like i don't even know what would make sense for you to have unlocked in addition to what scum gave me

[Slaxx]

Meph it’s mechanically possible to vote your buddy

Come on

Except I didn’t and I didn’t vote NM or Kokichi in Starcraft either, who I also tried to stop mislynches on.

I didn’t just not vote, I actively tried to stop that lynch. I understand why Skitter didn’t buy it, because she already knew tw was scum in that game but I would have still hard townread him here regardless because his D1 play was 180 degrees different here than it was in Starcraft.

K that’s awesome as soon as you mentioned another game I stopped reading the post which is a behavior I will continue to do until my cholesterol-clogged and stressed heart gives out on me so thanks

[mastina]

ok why did you pick nibbui last night?

Same reason I gave to Nancy D1: top townread tier, but less likely to die than Pink Ball and less likely to be forced to claim it.

[skitter30]

But Skitter and us had our rolechanged. How do you account for that?

BECAUSE YOU WERE MY FUCKING TARGET HOW DENSE CAN YOU BE

it's ok, my thought process immediately went to buddies

[skitter30]

ok why did you pick nibbui last night?

Same reason I gave to Nancy D1: top townread tier, but less likely to die than Pink Ball and less likely to be forced to claim it.

why less likely to die than pink ball?
(why are people even townreading pink ball for that matter?)

[Mephistophanes 39]

But Skitter and us had our rolechanged. How do you account for that?

BECAUSE YOU WERE MY FUCKING TARGET HOW DENSE CAN YOU BE

Why did you say it was Nibbui then?

So, you’re saying Skitter is lying then? *confused*

[skitter30]

That's kinda proof that my role exists though? Because I made it clear from the onset how mine works.

no, why is that proof?

[Slaxx]

also like what would have happened if you and scum targeted the same person yesterday? my role doesn't make sense in conjunction with being given other things really

like if you had unlocked my true role or whatever and scum also gave me their box of goodies like i don't even know what would make sense for you to have unlocked in addition to what scum gave me

I don’t want you to elaborate on this because I’m not trying to fish.

But if your ability wasn’t super clear/ mod-confirmed there might be some sort of catch to it.

Like a genie who tags on a downside to your wish or whatever.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Meph it’s mechanically possible to vote your buddy

Come on

Except I didn’t and I didn’t vote NM or Kokichi in Starcraft either, who I also tried to stop mislynches on.

I didn’t just not vote, I actively tried to stop that lynch. I understand why Skitter didn’t buy it, because she already knew tw was scum in that game but I would have still hard townread him here regardless because his D1 play was 180 degrees different here than it was in Starcraft.

K that’s awesome as soon as you mentioned another game I stopped reading the post which is a behavior I will continue to do until my cholesterol-clogged and stressed heart gives out on me so thanks

You want to play less optimally than you can, isn’t my concern.

[Slaxx]

That's kinda proof that my role exists though? Because I made it clear from the onset how mine works.

no, why is that proof?

Because 17*3=Lil Pump

I didn’t get the logic either

[Slaxx]

Meph it’s mechanically possible to vote your buddy

Come on

Except I didn’t and I didn’t vote NM or Kokichi in Starcraft either, who I also tried to stop mislynches on.

I didn’t just not vote, I actively tried to stop that lynch. I understand why Skitter didn’t buy it, because she already knew tw was scum in that game but I would have still hard townread him here regardless because his D1 play was 180 degrees different here than it was in Starcraft.

K that’s awesome as soon as you mentioned another game I stopped reading the post which is a behavior I will continue to do until my cholesterol-clogged and stressed heart gives out on me so thanks

You want to play less optimally than you can, isn’t my concern.

Very cool, thanks Meph.

[skitter30]

what i'm talking about will be clear in the fullness of time, preferably tomorrow but i'll prob claim part of it today

the role was super clear and getting other random powers doesn't make sense really in conjunction with it

there's like one role scum could have that would kinda undermine mine and like make sense with it but the fact that they didn't nk me last night after givng it to me points to them not having it. (or maybe it's later night specific, idk)

[mastina]

also like what would have happened if you and scum targeted the same person yesterday? my role doesn't make sense in conjunction with being given other things really

Fucked if I know. How exactly do I ask the mod that hypothetical?

why less likely to die than pink ball?
(why are people even townreading pink ball for that matter?)

Pink Ball was a universal townread--everyone was townreading Pink Ball.

While

almost

everyone townread Nibbui, there were one or two people who didn't, so I thought that Nibbui was less likely to die.

But Skitter and us had our rolechanged. How do you account for that?

BECAUSE YOU WERE MY FUCKING TARGET HOW DENSE CAN YOU BE

Why did you say it was Nibbui then?

Because I targeted both of you.
You were my D1 target.
Nibbui was my N1 target.
I have one final shot, for my D2 target.

That's kinda proof that my role exists though? Because I made it clear from the onset how mine works.

no, why is that proof?

Because what you're describing is vastly different from what I described from the onset?

[Mephistophanes 39]

Maybe I should wait for PB to get here. It really sucks that one of the two players who were nicest to me, had to get NK’d. :/