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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:40 pm
by Jingle
I believe PR scumreads Shoshin here regardless of both of their alignments for :reasons:, FWIW.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:41 pm
by Prince of Renais
that's an incredibly stupid thing to say.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:41 pm
by Prince of Renais
or maybe you're just still scum with her?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:42 pm
by Jingle
In post 1724, Alisae wrote:maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.
Nope. I'm a cheeky bastard.

Also, I have no proof the marines or seals are capable of killing me, and will continue to have no proof for the rest of my life.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:42 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1725, Jingle wrote:I believe PR scumreads Shoshin here regardless of both of their alignments for :reasons:, FWIW.
feels like these kind of comments are only necessary if PR survives the night

which honestly probably never happens

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:43 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 307, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:If I had the ability to kill Shoshin for the self-vote I would do so immediately, including going so far as to quickhammer her.
This still stands.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:43 pm
by Jingle
In post 1726, Prince of Renais wrote:that's an incredibly stupid thing to say.
Not really, no. You know why, and if you want we can talk about it in a while. But you're smart enough to know it's true.

I don't think you're wrong. I just also think you would be in that headspace regardless of what else had happened this game.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:45 pm
by Prince of Renais
nothing further to say in response to that at this time.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:46 pm
by Jingle
In post 1729, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1725, Jingle wrote:I believe PR scumreads Shoshin here regardless of both of their alignments for :reasons:, FWIW.
feels like these kind of comments are only necessary if PR survives the night

which honestly probably never happens
Not really, no. It's the kind of comment designed to throttle votes onto shoshin so that we don't get a speed wagon and have more to analyze. I just gave people a valid way to not want to be on the wagon, and I want to see what comes of that.

Has pretty much nothing to do with PR.

Also, I'd totally not kill him here, because mafia is more fun when it's hard.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:49 pm
by Alisae
In post 1733, Jingle wrote:Also, I'd totally not kill him here, because mafia is more fun when it's hard.
WAT

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:49 pm
by Jingle
In post 1658, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:this is a list of names randomly thrown together of people who post kinda weird in ways that make them slightly easier to lynch
This, btw, means you have no idea how PR approaches mafia.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:49 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1733, Jingle wrote:Not really, no. It's the kind of comment designed to throttle votes onto shoshin so that we don't get a speed wagon and have more to analyze. I just gave people a valid way to not want to be on the wagon, and I want to see what comes of that.

Has pretty much nothing to do with PR.

Also, I'd totally not kill him here, because mafia is more fun when it's hard.
Okay I guess that strategy is fair

I'm just concerned about town cohesion always random nonsensical TvTs have a habit of torpedoing games

Also, I think the majority of scum players kill PR here, but I like your philosophy :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:50 pm
by Alisae
In post 1733, Jingle wrote:
In post 1729, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1725, Jingle wrote:I believe PR scumreads Shoshin here regardless of both of their alignments for :reasons:, FWIW.
feels like these kind of comments are only necessary if PR survives the night

which honestly probably never happens
Not really, no. It's the kind of comment designed to throttle votes onto shoshin so that we don't get a speed wagon and have more to analyze. I just gave people a valid way to not want to be on the wagon, and I want to see what comes of that.

Has pretty much nothing to do with PR.

Also, I'd totally not kill him here, because mafia is more fun when it's hard.
So would you act this way with Ellibereth?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:51 pm
by Prince of Renais
why are we even having this conversation

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:52 pm
by Jingle
In post 1734, Alisae wrote:
In post 1733, Jingle wrote:Also, I'd totally not kill him here, because mafia is more fun when it's hard.
WAT
I prioritize Mechanics>Strength of Play when killing.

I prioritize potential fun >> Mechanics when killing.

To that end, I don't think I've ever killed any of my 3 favorite scummers, and I've taken strong conftown into LYLO over making the optimal kill because it's less boring.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:52 pm
by Jingle
God no, Elli's boring to argue against.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:53 pm
by Jingle
In post 1738, Prince of Renais wrote:why are we even having this conversation
mostly cause I'm bored.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:53 pm
by Alisae
In post 1739, Jingle wrote:
In post 1734, Alisae wrote:
In post 1733, Jingle wrote:Also, I'd totally not kill him here, because mafia is more fun when it's hard.
WAT
I prioritize Mechanics>Strength of Play when killing.

I prioritize potential fun >> Mechanics when killing.

To that end, I don't think I've ever killed any of my 3 favorite scummers, and I've taken strong conftown into LYLO over making the optimal kill because it's less boring.
Maybe I just need the evidence to back up the claim

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:54 pm
by Jingle
The one I can think of off the top of my head is old, but I'll dig up the link.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:56 pm
by Jingle
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=32147

Took thor conftown to LYLO. Lost miserably. Had an amazing time arguing with Thor and RayFrost.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:57 pm
by Alisae
okay now answer my other question

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:57 pm
by Jingle
In post 1738, Prince of Renais wrote:why are we even having this conversation
Besides, if I can convince people that it's reasonable you'll be alive tomorrow, you might be alive tomorrow. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:57 pm
by Jingle
In post 1737, Alisae wrote:So would you act this way with Ellibereth?
In post 1740, Jingle wrote:God no, Elli's boring to argue against.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:58 pm
by Alisae
oh I missed that sry.

ok thank you :]

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:59 pm
by Prince of Renais
ellibereth had an extremely mediocre winrate as both alignments before he created software to assist his play.