Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[RedPanda]

Finally creature. Are you ever going to comment on ofhrz wagon?

[Creature]

The Creature in this game feels different than the Creature in Newbie 1936. I can't put my finger on it though.

1936: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10983772

He's still just as active in this game, but it seems like he's producing less information compared to 1936.

For some reason this doesn't feel natural.

It's as like someone told EP to post this.

Like, idk where he took the "producing less info" part unless he was bullshiting.

[Creature]

Was there any claim?

[RedPanda]

huh?

[Creature]

I'm better at reading claims than some guy walling accusations against him.

[RedPanda]

from gamma? no

[Creature]

Creature? is that all you're going to talk about? What happened to town quality? What happened to tims reads? I know you were confused about why tim placed chemist where he was but I now understand it and I wanted to discuss that with you.

Once you have reached a conclusion earlier, it's harder to want to seek a new conclusion. It's as if you're just wasting time.

[RedPanda]

Creature? is that all you're going to talk about? What happened to town quality? What happened to tims reads? I know you were confused about why tim placed chemist where he was but I now understand it and I wanted to discuss that with you.

Once you have reached a conclusion earlier, it's harder to want to seek a new conclusion. It's as if you're just wasting time.

Are you not interested in lynching ofhrz?

[Creature]

And RP didn’t seem to me like he’s totally sold on gamma as town from what I remember so I just am not convinced that statement is true

Yeah, I still still see a ofrhz gamma creature scumteam

This is amusing though.

How often do I whiteknight my buddies? hmmm

[Creature]

Yes, we can still do ofrhz, but let me check for other possible scum infiltrated in.

[Creature]

I still don't know how tf am I supposed to read you.

[RedPanda]

Creature? is that all you're going to talk about? What happened to town quality? What happened to tims reads? I know you were confused about why tim placed chemist where he was but I now understand it and I wanted to discuss that with you.

Once you have reached a conclusion earlier, it's harder to want to seek a new conclusion. It's as if you're just wasting time.

and you think I'm wrong about why tim townread chemist? I would ask you reread when he made the list. It's quote obvious.

[RedPanda]

quite*

[Creature]

Maybe you can quote your post refuting the Tim is seriously townreading Chemist theory?

[RedPanda]

actually nvm. you did pick up on why tim townread ofhrz

[Detective Pikachu]

So we get Gamma to claim?

[RedPanda]

I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page as to why tim put you where you were on that list.

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe you!

This opening feels very awkward to me

I feel better about menalque town and am cooling on gamma

Still prefer this though

VOTE: pink

Begins flipping his read on me, but votes PB. Honestly I think with how he votes me later this indicates not just offers but PB too

I've been paranoid about them since the game started but I think he's not top priority.

If we agree that lynches should be in {ofrhz, Chemist, Menalque, RedPanda} I think we're into something. And by lynches I mean not only today. Of course we revaluate if we are wrong but I think that's a solid lynch pool, because of the townbloc that is implied with that. If we lynch Chemist and he flips scum I would trade ofrhz for another player, but more into that later.

This is pretty good but let’s not lynch me first

This post seems like he wants to be under the radar but is failing, and honestly he seems to respond like this to pressure consistently.

It's like people don't understand that replacements catchup posts should not be over analyzed as scum or town. They have an advantage of no interactions and they can pick and choose what to talk about and be somewhat honest about old posts.

I both agree with this and think there was merit to pushing a narrative that Gamma was towny to encourage that level of contribution from others yesterday. Regardless of actual alignment I think Gamma's early posts were pro-town.
But now that I'm finished reading into Gamma's ISO I'm left feeling almost entirely null about him, which surprises me.

Okay no this looks like scum trying to find an excuse to walk back their town read on me
VOTE: Klick

I also recently came around to scumreading your slot, but you didn’t mention that in your catchup. Can you talk about why you treated my slot differently from Klick’s?

What's interesting is at this point I'd say offers' read flip on me makes less sense than Klick's

VOTE: gamma

I agree with PB's 1652 that this vote comes at a time that makes it rather scummy

[RedPanda]

actually nvm. you did pick up on why tim townread ofhrz

chemist i mean

[Gamma Emerald]

Morning all

For some reason I was expecting the flavor to be gen 3 Pokemon so I’m a little bit disappointed

this confuses me, what indicates there is a la k of Gen 3 flavor??? Lol

I'm locktowning everyone who calls Gen 2 the best gen. It's an obvious town trait

Well that depends on what context because I have never played a Gen 2 game

Chemist fluffs on for like 3 more posts here which kinda concerns me

Anyone with experience, please feel free to jump in on the lurker post above. I'm interested to hear your perspective on the matter, as I know focusing/not focusing on lurkers is a fairly contentious topic.

I’m not experienced, and only arguably if you count all of the forums I’ve played on, but I think it’s better to just read lurkers based on what they do say while they are posting. They shouldn’t be read any differently because of their activity level.

I really like this take tbh

Hi I’m here

I read into ofrhz and urap and I think ofrhz is worse, their reaction to pressure felt kinda off like they didn’t really care but were acting like they did. Urap is a solid null for me rn due to lack of content.

VOTE: ofrhz

This is odd: why would scum try to act like they care

more

about pressure?

Hi sorry I suck

I’m here though and read Menal’s case on Gamma and am willing to follow it

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-2

This reasoning feels cheap, like there's no sign he synthesized the information in the case at all he just says he read it.

What do you make of Chemist being clearly online in the online list yet intentionally dodging this thread?

why does everyone assume I do this

like I have to have some sort of priority list, and I can't have every game be #1

that's just facts, sad as they may be

This is a big fucking mood

hi busy but real quick snap reads

{chemist, dp}
{klick, creature, PB}
{rest}
{gamma, RP}
{ofhrz}

did not like RP’s post about hammer

be back in an hour or so, leave questions and I’ll get back to you

oh yeah sections unordered too

I want another read list after you've read everything

no promises on timeliness but I’ll try to get it done tomorrow morning

I still want the new list btw

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: offers

[Menalque]

Yo, for anyone who wants more meta on me, here’s my first scum game that I just won

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=79930

[Menalque]

It’s p late here, I’ll try to get something up tomorrow it may be absent for ~48 hrs starting now

@mod, so you know

[EspressoPatronum]

The Creature in this game feels different than the Creature in Newbie 1936. I can't put my finger on it though.

1936: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10983772

He's still just as active in this game, but it seems like he's producing less information compared to 1936.

For some reason this doesn't feel natural.

It's as like someone told EP to post this.

Like, idk where he took the "producing less info" part unless he was bullshiting.

I used "producing less info" to capture the following:
- similar posting frequency
- less town leadership
- fewer posts fleshing out reads
- more fluff*

As I said at the beginning of the post, I am struggling to put my finger on the exact difference.

*Your posts at the beginning of 1936 were pretty empty, but you stepped things up by D2. It feels like you did the opposite in this game.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Creature. I take your point on Shubbins though. This game is larger and I'm struggling to find someone as scummy as DEB in D2.