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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:11 pm
by Blair
MINI Normals.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:13 pm
by Blair
Mini (13 players or fewer) Normals can't have more than two factions.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:18 pm
by LicketyQuickety
I'm not sure what you are arguing about.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mini_Normal

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AFAIK, there's no disclaimer that SK cannot be Mafia.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:30 pm
by Blair
You're arguing that there is a Mafia-aligned Serial Killer?

Serial Killer is explicitly third-party in Normal games.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:36 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 1728, Blair wrote:You're arguing that there is a Mafia-aligned Serial Killer?

Serial Killer is explicitly third-party in Normal games.
Then why does it say on one page that SK is "Normal" while the mod says it is not? Is the Mod just saying that for this game or what? If so, we can confirm popo as Vig. Else, we can't.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:38 pm
by Blair
In post 1729, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1728, Blair wrote:You're arguing that there is a Mafia-aligned Serial Killer?

Serial Killer is explicitly third-party in Normal games.
Then why does it say on one page that SK is "Normal" while the mod says it is not? Is the Mod just saying that for this game or what? If so, we can confirm popo as Vig. Else, we can't.
The mod said there can't be a Serial Killer in this game (a Mini) per the Normal Guidelines.

The mod is welcome to come repeat himself here but this is getting ridiculous. All you have to do is read the portion of the wiki page that we both quoted to understand this.

Serial Killers are Normal, but because they are third parties they can only be used in Large Normals.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:44 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 1730, Blair wrote:
In post 1729, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1728, Blair wrote:You're arguing that there is a Mafia-aligned Serial Killer?

Serial Killer is explicitly third-party in Normal games.
Then why does it say on one page that SK is "Normal" while the mod says it is not? Is the Mod just saying that for this game or what? If so, we can confirm popo as Vig. Else, we can't.
The mod said there can't be a Serial Killer in this game (a Mini) per the Normal Guidelines.

The mod is welcome to come repeat himself here but this is getting ridiculous. All you have to do is read the portion of the wiki page that we both quoted to understand this.

Serial Killers are Normal, but because they are third parties they can only be used in Large Normals.
You know.. I am going to go back and check to see if you (or someone else) corrected me for Mini Normal 2141. I hope someone corrected me there because it makes it look like you were trying to get me to look Scummy while preemptively voting me if not.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:46 pm
by Blair
Preemptively trying to make you look scummy?

How on earth did I orchestrate your impressive failure to read a wiki quote posted by both myself and the game mod?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:54 pm
by popopopopopopo
im not shooting truth

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:54 pm
by LicketyQuickety
This isn't likely to sell anyone on Blair!Scum, but I think it's worth pointing out that I made a reference to SK in my first game with Blair and she didn't point out the SK thing then; no one did.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11821345

I would also like Blair to detail how I Scum slipped. Pretty much every time I have seen someone say someone Scum slipped It's been totally wrong. I don't actually think much of slips. It's mostly just hearsay.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:00 pm
by Blair
In post 1734, LicketyQuickety wrote:I would also like Blair to detail how I Scum slipped. Pretty much every time I have seen someone say someone Scum slipped It's been totally wrong. I don't actually think much of slips. It's mostly just hearsay.
Sure. I already did this in my vote post, but I'll elaborate (even though you and I both know whenever someone is asked to over explain it always ends up getting labeled a paranoid conspiracy theory):

I laid out a plan to test Popo's claim. Part of this plan was that, if Popo is lying, the real vigilante will shoot him tonight.

When you referred to my plan, you referred to it as "Popo gets vigged." I believe this was a Freudian slip - because you already know Popo is lying, and therefore he will be vigged if we follow my plan.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:06 pm
by popopopopopopo
i think one of looker dunnstral or ndmath is scum, maybe 2. like the fact that both those major wagons were on town and it took that long for either of them to go through points to an inactive scumteam.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:14 pm
by Blair
Perhaps.

But the entire point of us collectively selecting your target for tonight (a plan you agreed to) is to test your claim - ideally by making you shoot scum.

So the pick needs to come from someone other than you because if you are lying there's no way you pick a helpful target for us.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:14 pm
by Dunnstral
Let vig shoot at popopo if he's fake claiming. And if he's not shot we know he's vig

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:16 pm
by Blair
Also, why are you just now saying you're opposed to shooting Truth?

You have posted since I suggested it, and this is the first you've mentioned being opposed to it.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:17 pm
by Blair
In post 1738, Dunnstral wrote:Let vig shoot at popopo if he's fake claiming. And if he's not shot we know he's vig
The point of using his second shot tonight is, if he's telling the truth, he probably dies tonight.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:19 pm
by Blair
An awful lot of people are coming out of the woodwork to oppose shooting Truth.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:20 pm
by Dunnstral
Why do we need to leash his second shot? He's either lying or the real vig, he can choose where to shoot if he's real

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:23 pm
by Truth
Because I am town, Blair! Please don't shoot me if you're the vigilante. Does my buddy really need to prove this to be the case?

Dunnstral's plan where we let the vigilante shoot po if he's lying seems like a good idea.

But who else should be lynch today instead? osuka and po were my main suspects.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:25 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 1735, Blair wrote:When you referred to my plan, you referred to it as "Popo gets vigged." I believe this was a Freudian slip - because you already know Popo is lying, and therefore he will be vigged if we follow my plan.
That's... really weak considering I corrected myself in my next post.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:26 pm
by Truth
In post 1700, Blair wrote:
In post 1683, Blair wrote:I think the right move here is for us to collectively decide who Popo should shoot tonight. This effectively gives us two lynches today -
unless he's lying, in which case the real vigilante will shoot him.
In post 1698, LicketyQuickety wrote:If
popo is getting vigged
, then I think we should lynch blair.
Slip?

VOTE: LicketyQuickety
Could you explain what you mean by this please? Is it because he said po instead of Truth there?

VOTE: No one

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:26 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Oh, I also semi think if Truth was Scum he would be posting in the Scum PT which would mean there would be no reason for Truth to "pick up" the EoD mod post.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:30 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1741, Blair wrote:An awful lot of people are coming out of the woodwork to oppose shooting Truth.
He claimed mason, maybe that's why some people are opposed to shooting him.
LicketyQuickety wrote:Oh, I also semi think if Truth was Scum he would be posting in the Scum PT which would mean there would be no reason for Truth to "pick up" the EoD mod post.
...But if he's town, he has a mason pt right. So does this argument make sense?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:30 pm
by Blair
In post 1746, LicketyQuickety wrote:Oh, I also semi think if Truth was Scum he would be posting in the Scum PT which would mean there would be no reason for Truth to "pick up" the EoD mod post.
Aren't you voting for Truth?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:30 pm
by Dunnstral
Why are you trying to no lynch?