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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:47 pm
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1724, Twins Akari and Mara wrote:
In post 1723, Momrangal wrote:
In post 1534, Firebringer wrote:


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Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-24 20:01:00)
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Oopsie daisy
@mod, any possible chance of an extension?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:00 pm
by catboi
Why would we need one?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:02 pm
by Firebringer
Why exactly are you requesting one?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:15 pm
by Mistyx
meh

i think vax posting towards jjh looks a lot better than jjh posting towards vax and shouldn't be discounted

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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:56 pm
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1726, catboi wrote:Why would we need one?
In post 1727, Firebringer wrote:
Why exactly are you requesting one?
Because we have under 20 hrs last I checked. Idk if we need one or not but I thought I should ask just in case.

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:59 pm
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 743, Titus wrote:Agreed. If I don't see a claim by the time I get lunch, I am hammering.
In post 744, Titus wrote:I really can't afford to wait much longer.
In post 745, wellermanbob wrote:I will be here until deadline. Don't hammer early
Maybe Titus could be right?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:24 pm
by jjh927
In post 1701, Raya36 wrote:I didnt target the first night but last night I targeted Titus and it failed. This means he either targeted me or commuted as he claimed to have.

I just find it really odd that I target him to battle and he just happens to have the only role where he can say no to a battle. He might know I targeted him and said that to cover up? Which would still not make full sense because he said he commuted. Not refused the battle.
Presumably the commute meant your action failed. If it succeedes there would be a battle topic, but Titus would use bounce and nothing would be rolled.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:32 am
by jjh927
The main reason I'm back to thinking it's Titus is because I think Titus' current play is that of defeated scum who don't want to draw this game out for ages. Town Titus should probably have jumped on the plan involving catboi

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:32 am
by jjh927
The main reason I'm back to thinking it's very likely to be Titus is because I think Titus' current play is that of defeated scum who don't want to draw this game out for ages. Town Titus should probably have jumped on the plan involving catboi

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:41 am
by jjh927
I think mafiascum crashed while I was submitting a post

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:03 am
by jjh927
I feel like I lose some credibility there when you can see me correcting my level of certainty lmao

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:09 am
by jjh927
Anyway, I am now considerably more confident that if it is not Titus, it is Twins. I floated Twins scum there on the basis that Twins professed a TR on Titus without giving any alternative. They explicitly stated they did not get why Titus was scumreading me. It reads like scum who knows Titus will flip town but does not want to do anything about the Titus lynch other than potentially gain some towncred out of not being on wagon.

Only when I state that they're probably the scum if it's not Titus do they actually vote me

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 am
by Raya36
In post 1731, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1701, Raya36 wrote:I didnt target the first night but last night I targeted Titus and it failed. This means he either targeted me or commuted as he claimed to have.

I just find it really odd that I target him to battle and he just happens to have the only role where he can say no to a battle. He might know I targeted him and said that to cover up? Which would still not make full sense because he said he commuted. Not refused the battle.
Presumably the commute meant your action failed. If it succeedes there would be a battle topic, but Titus would use bounce and nothing would be rolled.
Maybe just weird that the one current battle role targets the one current battle refusing role. Felt made up but maybe its true

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 am
by Raya36
In post 1736, jjh927 wrote:Anyway, I am now considerably more confident that if it is not Titus, it is Twins. I floated Twins scum there on the basis that Twins professed a TR on Titus without giving any alternative. They explicitly stated they did not get why Titus was scumreading me. It reads like scum who knows Titus will flip town but does not want to do anything about the Titus lynch other than potentially gain some towncred out of not being on wagon.

Only when I state that they're probably the scum if it's not Titus do they actually vote me
Twins stance today doesnt make much sense for them as scum

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 am
by Raya36
So you think Titus is scum but also believe his role claim?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:26 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1739, Raya36 wrote:So you think Titus is scum but also believe his role claim?
Hey Raya, Titus is a SHE. I get really confused everytime you refer to Titus as a he because I’m not necessarily sure whom you’re referring to and yes, agree the twins are likely town. Not believing her role claim is one of the reasons I sr her but if jjh is confirming it, then why is he still sr her?

Iow, if you believe her role she’s probably town, if not scum, so I don’t understand how jjh can think her role is real and he obviously does and still think she’s scum here. Doesn’t her role making sense means she’s probably town?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:14 am
by Mistyx
i dont think its twins

something in my gut is telling me it might be catboi but i dont have much to substantiate that

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:26 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1741, Mistyx wrote:i dont think its twins

something in my gut is telling me it might be catboi but i dont have much to substantiate that
Well I don’t see why scum!jjh confirms Titus’ role but idk. I guess it’s possible. Pooky told me he seems different here from the last game he played with him (catboi) but he didn’t specify and now that I no longer think it’s you means I need to re-evaluate but yeah, have really never understood the twins’ srs and they looked like the counterwagon to Vax.

I think it’s between those three but the thing is all that jjh had to say was that her role wasn’t real but he does believe it but why he sr the twins’ I really don’t understand and they have explained their town!Titus read right from the getgo. I’m not seeing it but it’s possible they’re seeing something I don’t. I don’t see anything remotely scummy about anything they’re doing. I think they’re town - right or wrong town I don’t know but their obvious conviction was enough to convince me to unvote.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:27 am
by Titus
In post 1733, jjh927 wrote:The main reason I'm back to thinking it's very likely to be Titus is because I think Titus' current play is that of defeated scum who don't want to draw this game out for ages. Town Titus should probably have jumped on the plan involving catboi
It's defeated town. Scum Titus puts on a show. I don't see any path to getting you eliminated, so why prolong a town loss?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:35 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1141, Chara wrote:bob Infinity and Nancy are town.
Raya, jjh, and the Twins are probably town based on lesser hunting mechanics colloquially known as "not intuition".

leaves Misty, Titus, kitty, and Red, and i think the last resolves itself mechanically, but i'll go over it better when i have time.
Thoughts? I obviously no longer think it’s Misty.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:43 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1743, Titus wrote:
In post 1733, jjh927 wrote:The main reason I'm back to thinking it's very likely to be Titus is because I think Titus' current play is that of defeated scum who don't want to draw this game out for ages. Town Titus should probably have jumped on the plan involving catboi
It's defeated town. Scum Titus puts on a show. I don't see any path to getting you eliminated, so why prolong a town loss?
If you’re town here, why can’t you make a case on either jjh or catboi? Why are so so defeated after the twins are hard vetoing your wagon?

And we need actual evidence, so if you’re actually town, you need to help stop us from miseliming you.


I honestly don’t know what to think rn except I very much doubt it’s the twins. Its between Titus/jjh/catboi. I don’t think it’s anyone else.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:45 am
by Raya36
In post 1740, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1739, Raya36 wrote:So you think Titus is scum but also believe his role claim?
Hey Raya, Titus is a SHE. I get really confused everytime you refer to Titus as a he because I’m not necessarily sure whom you’re referring to and yes, agree the twins are likely town. Not believing her role claim is one of the reasons I sr her but if jjh is confirming it, then why is he still sr her?

Iow, if you believe her role she’s probably town, if not scum, so I don’t understand how jjh can think her role is real and he obviously does and still think she’s scum here. Doesn’t her role making sense means she’s probably town?
Oh my bad! I'm sorry Titus, I'm not sure why I thought he but I'll fix that from now on.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. JJ seems to believe her roleclaim but also thinks she's scum which doesn't make much sense. I don't think commuting is a typical scumrole although I could be wrong there.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:47 am
by Raya36
In post 1745, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1743, Titus wrote:
In post 1733, jjh927 wrote:The main reason I'm back to thinking it's very likely to be Titus is because I think Titus' current play is that of defeated scum who don't want to draw this game out for ages. Town Titus should probably have jumped on the plan involving catboi
It's defeated town. Scum Titus puts on a show. I don't see any path to getting you eliminated, so why prolong a town loss?
If you’re town here, why can’t you make a case on either jjh or catboi? Why are so so defeated after the twins are hard vetoing your wagon?

And we need actual evidence, so if you’re actually town, you need to help stop us from miseliming you.


I honestly don’t know what to think rn except I very much doubt it’s the twins. Its between Titus/jjh/catboi. I don’t think it’s anyone else.
I still don't think it's catboi. I'm at a 50/50 on jj/Titus now.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:51 am
by Raya36
VOTE: JJ

I think I believe Titus's claim. I still think it's weird she happens to have a battle refusal ability but she claimed the commute. Not refusing my battle. So I don't see why she would raise red flags on purpose as scum.

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:23 am
by Titus
@Raya, Titus was an actual Roman emperor. That might be why you thought he. Tidus is also a character from final fantasy 10. Also male. I get misgendered a lot and I let it roll off of me. My brother, on the other hand, be sure to get his gender right. He's trans, so being misgendered is hurtful to him. His name is Mathblade.

Long story short, don't worry about it.