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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:23 pm
by the worst
i really do not think you're town here. i'm not really prepared to waste miselims but if i think someone is scum *and* removing them from the game makes my life easier, yeah i'm going to push them.

i'm good at visualising late gamestates. i don't have the energy or time not to do it tbh.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:24 pm
by Aristeia
like as much as you "wish" you killed me d1 frankly you didnt try very hard

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:24 pm
by the worst
i don't owe anyone more of my time than i'm willing to give. end of discussion.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:25 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1724, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1716, Aristeia wrote:do you think this is a fair assessment by duck?

i just didnt feel like i had many options at all at eod - I don't understand what duckie expects town!me to do differently there.
I dont think is quite right
I do think you gamma waa viable tho fwiw
i wrote a lot of stuff about how gamma voting beat made no sense

i unvoted gamma

nobody really wanted gamma or responded positively

i am not going to advocate for elimming myself

so i struggle to see what i could have done differently.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:25 pm
by Pavowski
Dudes =x

Don't get personal, it's such a lovely day

You know, except for Beat floating in the water back there

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:26 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1727, the worst wrote:i don't owe anyone more of my time than i'm willing to give. end of discussion.
the accusation is that for how sure you are that I am scum, you did not try very hard to kill me

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:26 pm
by Titus
VOTE: the worst

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:26 pm
by Aristeia
if your defense is "i dont want to spend time on this game" i guess ok ?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:27 pm
by the worst
holy fuck i am so sick of you

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:27 pm
by Aristeia
?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:28 pm
by skitter30
In post 1717, the worst wrote:
In post 1711, skitter30 wrote:Tw why is ari scum?
Pedit same
because if she's not i have no idea how to solve this game.

i think her actions towards the beat wagon were motivated by securing the elim and by looking like, half-ok along the way -- i think beat was a reasonably easy target regardless of her alignment, and i think ari going for anyone else would have been significantly harder.

the way she's trying another sideways angle this phase feels like she's just desperately trying to keep a door open and stuff like --
In post 1712, Aristeia wrote:i think theres a good chance we just lose if we flip me here but i dont really have a lot of energy this game because I am confused by whats going on so if you need me to flip to solve then it's w/e - I'm fine with it.
-- this is like literally exactly scum!ari's wincon. she doesn't need to go deep and she doesn't need to look good. she was under heat d1, she needs to get a couple of elims and get out.

i feel like i mostly townread the beat wagon and i can see ari as the manipulative aspect in that wagon.

admittedly i also kinda just wish we'd yeeted ari d1 because she makes a *lot* of noise when under pressure and it makes it a lot harder for me to focus
First bit:
- tbf from either alignment beat getting flipped over her is strictly better, not sure this is ai
- i kinda do think gamma was viable and do question why she settled for beat over gamma

Second bit:
- who do u townread on the beat wagon, i do *not* townread most of it?
- dunno why scum-ari is fine with getting flipped today, this seems strictly anti-wincon to me? So not sure i understand your point
- like you seem to have the opposite takeaway from ari's pos that i do, she seems to be fine getting flipped, you're saying she's not

Pedit >.>
Fighting makes me sad :(

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:28 pm
by Aristeia
i am doubting the sincerity of your scumread because of your lack of commitment - I don't really think it's something personal?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:29 pm
by the worst
i have a life and things happening in the real world. i've completed a house move and am in the busiest work month of my year. i have friends and hobbies and other things going on. i also have other hobbies and things online. i am going to dedicate the time i can afford to dedicate to this game, and no more. i'm past the point in my mafia career where i value tilting and spamming up a game more highly than i value my own stress management & mental health.

you implying that my pushing you isn't valid because i'm not putting more time into the game is really baffling.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:29 pm
by Aristeia
i am not even trying to fight with him???

i dunno what im doing wrong ;_;

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:29 pm
by Pavowski
Got some reading back to do tomorrow, calling it a night while we're here. Take it easy all

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:29 pm
by skitter30
In post 1728, Aristeia wrote:so i struggle to see what i could have done differently.
Fair enuf, thanks for explaining tho

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:29 pm
by Titus
I like the worst based on my skim of vcs.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:31 pm
by Aristeia
i mean scum!you faking a push on me is comfortable letting me live and letting me yeet town!beat

because you are in a lot better position now than if you had yeeted town!me yesterday

thats why i am confused about the mismatch between your conviction and how hard you pushed me.

like i dont get why thats not a doubt im allowed to have??

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
ari would you say you use AtE?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:32 pm
by Aristeia
sure

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:33 pm
by Aristeia
VOTE: ari

i dont want duckie to be mad at me and i dont think ill be very useful this game

sorry duckie

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:34 pm
by skitter30
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:35 pm
by the worst
In post 1735, skitter30 wrote:First bit:
- tbf from either alignment beat getting flipped over her is strictly better, not sure this is ai
- i kinda do think gamma was viable and do question why she settled for beat over gamma

Second bit:
- who do u townread on the beat wagon, i do *not* townread most of it?
- dunno why scum-ari is fine with getting flipped today, this seems strictly anti-wincon to me? So not sure i understand your point
- like you seem to have the opposite takeaway from ari's pos that i do, she seems to be fine getting flipped, you're saying she's not
In post 1735, skitter30 wrote:First bit:
- tbf from either alignment beat getting flipped over her is strictly better, not sure this is ai
- i kinda do think gamma was viable and do question why she settled for beat over gamma

Second bit:
- who do u townread on the beat wagon, i do *not* townread most of it?
- dunno why scum-ari is fine with getting flipped today, this seems strictly anti-wincon to me? So not sure i understand your point
- like you seem to have the opposite takeaway from ari's pos that i do, she seems to be fine getting flipped, you're saying she's not
first bit: that's fair. like i might be being selfish because i would have liked an ari flip better d1.

second bit:
- i still like titus (crying in pedits), gl, i think i like gamma, and i ... actually admittedly i don't know about isis.
- i really want to townread marci but i'm nervous. i don't know about meuh.
- you're my only townread off-wagon. i think this town is really easy to manipulate.
- i really do not think ari is fine with getting flipped today. i think she's making the right noises while takign every action she can to *not* be eliminated and i think after d1 that this plist is likely something she feels comfortable about manipulating as either alignment.

pedit:
Aristeia wrote:i mean scum!you faking a push on me is comfortable letting me live and letting me yeet town!beat

because you are in a lot better position now than if you had yeeted town!me yesterday

thats why i am confused about the mismatch between your conviction and how hard you pushed me.

like i dont get why thats not a doubt im allowed to have??
this is literally fine. this is also a far cry from implying that i didn't 'try hard enough' to deserve an elim i wanted.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:36 pm
by Aristeia
i wasnt talking about deserving i was doubting you even wanted to elim me

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:36 pm
by Aristeia
but since you have made it abundantly clear you really do want this i will help you get it