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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:17 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Don't worry about the town game either, again, I understand haha.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
by Galron
In post 1721, Taly wrote:
Galron
give me some input on
BBT
we got conflicting feels
I'm not sure why people are scumreading bbt. It started real early and I don't get it but I haven't bothered to look deeper either. I thought the neighborhood suggestion from them was reasonable and I don't know why anyone would oppose that other than we don't know who all are in the hoods. And are they hoods if there are just two members? But their post about hoods is what spurred my question about your pt. But really their suggestion about hoods is nai, although it does show some impetus to solve maybe. I could iso them I guess but day 1 large is a crapshoot and I don't know that I want to put in that work at this point. In otherwords, I don't have much to offer on bbt. Where do you have them?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
by Bell
Son of a bitch I lost my post.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:22 am
by Galron
In post 1726, Galron wrote:
In post 1721, Taly wrote:
Galron
give me some input on
BBT
we got conflicting feels
I'm not sure why people are scumreading bbt. It started real early and I don't get it but I haven't bothered to look deeper either. I thought the neighborhood suggestion from them was reasonable and I don't know why anyone would oppose that other than we don't know who all are in the hoods. And are they hoods if there are just two members? But their post about hoods is what spurred my question about your pt. But really their suggestion about hoods is nai, although it does show some impetus to solve maybe. I could iso them I guess but day 1 large is a crapshoot and I don't know that I want to put in that work at this point. In otherwords, I don't have much to offer on bbt. Where do you have them?
Okay so you have them at -null. Why is that?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:22 am
by Galron
In post 1727, Bell wrote:Son of a bitch I lost my post.
It's not behind the couch. I looked.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:23 am
by Bell
Red flag: wanted to talk me about reads where there’s less “noise”
Yellow flag: wanted to leap frog the sorting process and collaborate. Which is great power dynamics but like.
Blue flag: I don’t really play well In neighborhoods. I shy away from them due to okapoka’s rather persuasive argument and my posts would be identical here and there unless I trusted the other player wouldn’t leak it, but I don’t have that guarantee so.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:23 am
by Galron
In post 1724, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:@Taly I mean, I'm right here.

What you want?

I understand the read, I really do. I haven't seen Rad mention me yet, what's his read on me?
Why do you think you're getting heat?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:24 am
by Rad
In post 1723, Corwinoid wrote:I'm actually a little surprised Rad doesn't feel that way too.
I believe I have a good feel for the difference between scum!BBT and town!BBT, but he'll have to ramp up his activity before I can test that theory. He's just null right now. His town and scum play is pretty similar, so it's not really a meta read per se, it's just that his intuition comes out differently as town vs scum.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:24 am
by Taly
In post 1724, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:@Taly I mean, I'm right here.

What you want?

I understand the read, I really do. I haven't seen Rad mention me yet, what's his read on me?
Quickly losing desire to vote, I actually asked
Galron
knowing you were probably around to see if you'd communicate directly. :)

The initial thought was that you were holding reads to stall in time to make them, because almost all of your posts up until recently have given little impression of your perspective on the game.

And yet you've posted a bit frequently and the tone and diction feels similar to what I've seen commonly with scum.

But given the past page, I'm going to think more on this.

Following people's reads are difficult, I don't remember what
Rad
thinks of you hahaha, 26p is a bigger bite to chew than I thought.

Justify your lowest reads, please :3

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:25 am
by Galron
In post 1730, Bell wrote:Red flag: wanted to talk me about reads where there’s less “noise”
Yellow flag: wanted to leap frog the sorting process and collaborate. Which is great power dynamics but like.
Blue flag: I don’t really play well In neighborhoods. I shy away from them due to okapoka’s rather persuasive argument and my posts would be identical here and there unless I trusted the other player wouldn’t leak it, but I don’t have that guarantee so.
Took me a minute but you're talking specifically about Taly here?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:25 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
@Galron - Because I naked voted on two wagons.

But like, if that's people's reasons for their BEST scum read then there is something wrong.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:26 am
by Bell
Yellow and red flags yeah.

Blue flag is me, forgetting. It initially had “Taly is excited to be alive”
Which I like.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:26 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Taly is prob scum

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:28 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1737, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Taly is prob scum
Why? I want to know if your reasons' the same as mine.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:32 am
by Galron
See I'm not hip on scum BBt right now. It's too easy to catch a scum read early and then every thing you do comes under heavier scrutiny and is presumed scummy. Rebutting that presumption puts you on the defensive and THAT looks bad. It just kinda snowballs.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:33 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 1733, Taly wrote: Quickly losing desire to vote, I actually asked
Galron
knowing you were probably around to see if you'd communicate directly. :)

The initial thought was that you were holding reads to stall in time to make them, because almost all of your posts up until recently have given little impression of your perspective on the game.

And yet you've posted a bit frequently and the tone and diction feels similar to what I've seen commonly with scum.

But given the past page, I'm going to think more on this.

Following people's reads are difficult, I don't remember what
Rad
thinks of you hahaha, 26p is a bigger bite to chew than I thought.

Justify your lowest reads, please :3
First part of this post is LAMIST - making it obvious that they were trying to 'sort me'

Stalling to make time for reads is also bad. As if I couldn't generate them on the spot if I really wanted to. Or even just disengage from the thread and come back another time given my activity levels thus far.

Tone and diction are buzzwords. This in no way clarifies WHY they think I'm scum. Poor generalisation.

The whole post is wishy-washy as well. Prob waiting to see where the tide flows on a potential BBT wagon.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:33 am
by Frogsterking
In post 1591, T-Bone wrote:One scum in Roden/BBT/Corwin is such an eclectic group to tie together. What interactions do they have that leads you to believe all this?
It was based on PoE, not interactions.

I'm rethinking my PoE based on Rad's point about Blue's activity levels, my new take last night that Roden is townie, and CSF's initial gut take that Corwin is townie.

Assuming that my PoE was wrong, which seems likely, there is at least one scum who is collecting town reads, and Corwin/BBT/Roden may be getting scapegoated to some extent. I think Ceph is a great example of a slot who fits what I'm looking for and is playing well within their scum range.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:37 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1740, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1733, Taly wrote: Quickly losing desire to vote, I actually asked
Galron
knowing you were probably around to see if you'd communicate directly. :)

The initial thought was that you were holding reads to stall in time to make them, because almost all of your posts up until recently have given little impression of your perspective on the game.

And yet you've posted a bit frequently and the tone and diction feels similar to what I've seen commonly with scum.

But given the past page, I'm going to think more on this.

Following people's reads are difficult, I don't remember what
Rad
thinks of you hahaha, 26p is a bigger bite to chew than I thought.

Justify your lowest reads, please :3
First part of this post is LAMIST - making it obvious that they were trying to 'sort me'

Stalling to make time for reads is also bad. As if I couldn't generate them on the spot if I really wanted to. Or even just disengage from the thread and come back another time given my activity levels thus far.

Tone and diction are buzzwords. This in no way clarifies WHY they think I'm scum. Poor generalisation.

The whole post is wishy-washy as well. Prob waiting to see where the tide flows on a potential BBT wagon.
Okay, I thought their entrance was weak and forced, the list in 1580 is exactly the kind of do-nothing-look-active list I hate, and some of their posts like feel like a weak attempt to pocket Bell.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 1713, Taly wrote:
In post 1706, Corwinoid wrote:Why town Gal? Why -null T-Bone?
It's partially gut but I've played with
Galron
multiple times against, same alignment, and as a hydra. Difficult to verbalize but I don't see an agenda, a lot of their posts look like doubtcasting at face-value but they read to me as a genuine thought process and critic.

It's also connected to my
Rad
townread and their interactions. In my opening page, I commented on their interactions their and the initial read stuck, especially with
Rad's
communication towards me.

As for
T-Bone
, a lot of it is disagreement with the assessment of
Bell
, but I'm a biased party as a PT partner. So I thought to watch how that read progresses without my commentary.
In post 1707, Corwinoid wrote:Also, I took the wrong meds at the wrong time earlier, and I might be a little loopy / LA this afternoon. Yay.
bless, sorry to hear that!

pedit
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1704, Taly wrote:Order matters very little, I'd prefer to do a tier-style list but figured it's most coherent to stick with the structure.

town

Galron
Rad
PookyTheFluffyBear

+ null

Dancing Puppets
Dunn
Bell
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
JohnnyFarrar
Lukewarm
Roden
Corwinoid

? null

Klick ***
MalcolmTucker
Cephrir ***
Malakittens
PenguinPower ***
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever ***
Enchant

- null

BlueBlooded Toffee
The Toad
OffTheHook
T-Bone

***
= notes for people to look at next, or people I haven't actually give any skim at or contact with so far

For as little as the townbin is I'd fight for it.

Taly I'm only doing 3 colors, green yellow and red.

I dunno how you want those nulls to be split up lemme know
uhhh

bring
+ null and town
together :D
<3


PEDIT AGAIN FFS
Dancing Puppets wrote:UNVOTE:

I had no internet access the entire day yesterday so don’t know when I’m going to catch up. so Titus told me I could unvote, so I did.

~Nancy
nancy <3
<3

Hey Taly, who did you replace and how is CSF so low?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am
by Frogsterking
In post 1712, Dancing Puppets wrote:UNVOTE:

I had no internet access the entire day yesterday so don’t know when I’m going to catch up. so Titus told me I could unvote, so I did.

~Nancy
I'm choosing to townread Titus based on Dunnstral's take, who I townread. Will a Ceph flip help Titus with her VCA?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Frog, if not Ceph, then who?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 1720, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we are down to 5 people without readlists:

Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Enchant
Dwlee99
I don’t usually make readslists on d1, especially not in larges. I also wouldn’t hold my breath for d2 either. Early game, I give out reads, usually trs, which I have and you absolutely should know this Pooky.

~N

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:52 am
by Galron
I'm with you but we're doing something different Nancy. All he needs is a rough estimate let's call it. That's what mine is.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:53 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 1737, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Taly is prob scum
Based on?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:53 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Read?