Open 862: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Bellaphant]

Who would you prefer? You are being fairly oblique with your reads

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You <3

[Bellaphant]

I know that, silly goose, still not clear why.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I've explained I think you're being hedgy with reads.

I don't feel like you're trying to solve either.

What do you feel about Enchant and Jake?

[Bellaphant]

You keep saying this and I keep posting reads while you don't. It's boring and annoying. I think my progression on reads is fairly transparent too - I moved from scum reading norwee to thinking they are most likely town, my tr of the hydra is slipping, etc: I'm not hiding things

We solve differently, I'm never as aggressive as you as town or scum.

I've talked about enchant and Jake a lot. Enchant hasn't really tried to engage in my scum read of them, although they have done to slots like gamma, which also strikes me as weird. It would be easy to say the dueling wagons mean one is deffo town and one is deffo scum, and from that 50/50 I'd pick enchant any day -i don't see what the hydra sees about their meta (enchant has had scum games where they are absent, but not all of them, and does this feel like deptuy cultists enchant to you??).

Do you have other scum reads? Your scum read of me feels weirdly 'safe', especially because you aren't basing it on much.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

You <3

You and Auro are on the same page with that.

[Bellaphant]

Cool, can auro come ask me some questions? I work better having a chat..

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Bella any thoughts about Kop?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Cool, can auro come ask me some questions? I work better having a chat..

I’ll let him know.

[Bellaphant]

@nancy, they've made what, one post? So, weirdly, no. Why ask?

[Bellaphant]

(I mean other than both holders of the slot have been basically absent.)

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Just slightly worried that Auro scum read me for a shit reason about vote counts and you missing the enchant wagon being so big. I'm slightly drink and a bit paranoid I guess: reassure me?

Wasn’t exactly a huge fan of this? What does Auro’s read of you have anything whatsoever to do with me getting the votecount wrong?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@nancy, they've made what, one post? So, weirdly, no. Why ask?

I guess that’s fair.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Had they had more content. it would be a really good question however.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You keep saying this and I keep posting reads while you don't. It's boring and annoying. I think my progression on reads is fairly transparent too - I moved from scum reading norwee to thinking they are most likely town, my tr of the hydra is slipping, etc: I'm not hiding things

We solve differently, I'm never as aggressive as you as town or scum.

I've talked about enchant and Jake a lot. Enchant hasn't really tried to engage in my scum read of them, although they have done to slots like gamma, which also strikes me as weird. It would be easy to say the dueling wagons mean one is deffo town and one is deffo scum, and from that 50/50 I'd pick enchant any day -i don't see what the hydra sees about their meta (enchant has had scum games where they are absent, but not all of them, and does this feel like deptuy cultists enchant to you??).

Do you have other scum reads? Your scum read of me feels weirdly 'safe', especially because you aren't basing it on much.

It's not about aggression but more about lots of words that don't say anything, you know?

What does weird mean? Does it tell you anything that Enchant has engaged with Gamma and not you? I agree, it is easy to say one of them must be scum but I don't know, it doesn't feel that way to me. Frog's push on hydra at start of D2 is my main reason for town reading that slot, I don't think Jake has done all that much since replacing in. Enchant is hard to read for me, but their engagement levels and push back on their wagon feels town.

Deputy Cultists was completely different because Enchant was conf town so I don't think that game applies to this game at all?

I'm struggling for scum reads in this game, I've said this before. When I'm struggling, I look at people who are kind of in the middle of the game, not making too much noise or too many hot takes. You fit that description, as does Penguin. Outside of that, I really don't know.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

You keep saying this and I keep posting reads while you don't. It's boring and annoying. I think my progression on reads is fairly transparent too - I moved from scum reading norwee to thinking they are most likely town, my tr of the hydra is slipping, etc: I'm not hiding things

We solve differently, I'm never as aggressive as you as town or scum.

I've talked about enchant and Jake a lot. Enchant hasn't really tried to engage in my scum read of them, although they have done to slots like gamma, which also strikes me as weird. It would be easy to say the dueling wagons mean one is deffo town and one is deffo scum, and from that 50/50 I'd pick enchant any day -i don't see what the hydra sees about their meta (enchant has had scum games where they are absent, but not all of them, and does this feel like deptuy cultists enchant to you??).

Do you have other scum reads? Your scum read of me feels weirdly 'safe', especially because you aren't basing it on much.

Maybe yes, maybe not. Have you never seen dueling wagons of the same alignment - especially town ones?

[Kop]

Mafia: Jake, Don Draper, Gamma.

Jake overall, Don Draper doesh't care, Gamma correctly read me always, but now probably have incentive to kill me.

Are you only scum reading Gamma because he scum reads you?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

but now probably have incentive to kill me.

Which would make Gamma suspicious on your flip, no? Would it be worth it for Gamma?

@Bella: Apologies if I missed it, but did you respond to this post?

Just slightly worried that Auro scum read me for a shit reason about vote counts and you missing the enchant wagon being so big. I'm slightly drink and a bit paranoid I guess: reassure me?

Do you think our mistakes (in parsing the VoteCounts / tracking the Enchant wagon) were deliberate? I'm not sure what kind of reassurance you were expecting.

-Mistress

[Enchant]

This scumread is not genuine.

[Enchant]

but now probably have incentive to kill me.

Which would make Gamma suspicious on your flip, no? Would it be worth it for Gamma?

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

Nah, most likely result will be "Ugh well Enchant deserves this, so anyway let's kill NM"

[Bellaphant]

Awkward, because I was about to respond to bbt that nm kinda fills that middle role for me.

@mistress, no, I'll post proper responses after its not dinner/bath/bed time

[Not_Mafia]

Most recently because they have failed to explain why they placed a vote on someone they described as highly likely to be town.

bbt said both were highly likely to be town tbf

And rather than even suggesting an alternative, they voted one of us.

Do you really think an alternative wagon is viable at this point

[Jake The Wolfie]

Most recently because they have failed to explain why they placed a vote on someone they described as highly likely to be town.

bbt said both were highly likely to be town tbf

And rather than even suggesting an alternative, they voted one of us.

Do you really think an alternative wagon is viable at this point :?: :cop:

It's always possible that we CFD from the current options to an entirely unexpected person, but more importantly the wagon they suggested didn't need to be viable at that time, they just needed to suggest it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I did.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I await a proper response to my post, Bella.