Saving Nasubi: Game over, Nasubi is Dead Long Live Nasubi

[zwetschenwasser]

Now he's casting the blame on me? You are stumbling on yourself, sir.

[millar13]

Best thing about a bluff, is when you catch the person you wanted too out.

[Sajin]

totally. Scum all know 2 people who aren't Nasubi, too.

Camn this is where you claimed that there are 3 scum. Explain how this is not saying there are 3 scum if in fact you are not stating this.

OK, Steph. I'll hold you to that, though.

UNVOTE

Steph and I are confirmed to each other, Zwet. The "how" of it is of little importance.

Steph and Camn are confirmed with each other.....with the exception of masons, I fail to see how they would be confirmed same alignment unless they were scum. So I don't see how I was rolefishing here....I just saw the statement here as claiming, because that was the only possible explanation in my point of view besides being scum. My question thus was therefore: Why are you claiming here? rather than: What is your role? Feel free to correct this if my logic is somehow wrong here.


2 things, I suppose I should claim soon, a couple people asking and I will.

Should I post the 2 people I know are not nasubi or take them to the grave if I am to be today's lynch? either way is fine with me.

[zwetschenwasser]

Best thing about a bluff, is when you catch the person you wanted too out.

You really want us to belief that you were bluffing intentionally?

[DrippingGoofball]

Should I post the 2 people I know are not nasubi or take them to the grave if I am to be today's lynch? either way is fine with me.

No!!!!!

unvote, vote: millar13

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote; Vote: millar13

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: millar13

[zwetschenwasser]

L-1 Gogogo!

[millar13]

YAY i love the attention!

[zwetschenwasser]

Millar is exploding with insanity. Lynch him now!

[shaft.ed]

Nasubi lies lazily on the floor, while you all vote frantically.

Vote Count:

millar13

(5) Llamafluff, DrippingGoofball, elvis_knits, Seraphim, zwetschenwasser

Sajin

(4) camn, Claus, farside22, Stephoscope

zwetschenwasser

(1) millar13

camn

(1) Sajin

Not Voting:

Tenchi, populartajo

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch or No Lynch

[Sajin]

so would anyone mind responding to my post and/or give a reason for millar13's current bandwagon? I dislike the lack of discussion in this thread. Shouldn't town want discussion?

[millar13]

unvote vote:sajin

Its just one of those situations.

[camn]

totally. Scum all know 2 people who aren't Nasubi, too.

Camn this is where you claimed that there are 3 scum. Explain how this is not saying there are 3 scum if in fact you are not stating this.

Camn sates we have exacly 3 scum, no more, no less. Interesting.

You explain.
Show me the "no more, no less"

If there were 2 scum, each would know 2 people who aren't Nasubi.
If there were 12 scum, each would know 2 people who weren't Nasubi.
In either case, scum can fake-claim knowledge of non-Nasubi.

Do you want to retract your misrepresentation now?
If not, please show me where I specify 3, "NO MORE, NO LESS".


@ Millar: I support your lynch, if Sajin satisfies me... so get your defense together.

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote; Vote: Sajin

L-1 Gogogo!

[Sajin]

totally. Scum all know 2 people who aren't Nasubi, too.

Camn this is where you claimed that there are 3 scum. Explain how this is not saying there are 3 scum if in fact you are not stating this.

Camn sates we have exacly 3 scum, no more, no less. Interesting.

You explain.
Show me the "no more, no less"

If there were 2 scum, each would know 2 people who aren't Nasubi.
If there were 12 scum, each would know 2 people who weren't Nasubi.
In either case, scum can fake-claim knowledge of non-Nasubi.

Do you want to retract your misrepresentation now?
If not, please show me where I specify 3, "NO MORE, NO LESS".


@ Millar: I support your lynch, if Sajin satisfies me... so get your defense together.

Ah. Well I assumed the PM did not include the 2 non nasubi members. I assumed you meant by knowing their scum partners, those partners would no be nasubi. I doubt their PM gave them 2 non nasubi people in addition to their partners.

[zwetschenwasser]

Miller and Sajin are both scum in my eyes.

[Sajin]

and your scummy in my eyes for bandwagon hoping with no arguments as to why.

[camn]

Ah. Well I assumed the PM did not include the 2 non nasubi members. I assumed you meant by knowing their scum partners, those partners would no be nasubi. I doubt their PM gave them 2 non nasubi people in addition to their partners.

That is what I meant.

You still fail to produce me stating 3, no more, no less.

Are you admitting you intentionally misrepresented me?

[Sajin]

Ah. Well I assumed the PM did not include the 2 non nasubi members. I assumed you meant by knowing their scum partners, those partners would no be nasubi. I doubt their PM gave them 2 non nasubi people in addition to their partners.

That is what I meant.

You still fail to produce me stating 3, no more, no less.

Are you admitting you intentionally misrepresented me?

Not at all, your the one who said that even if there are 12 scum members they were told 2 people who were not nasubi in addition to their partners.

I am working under the assumption that all they received was their scum partners for info. With 3 scum they would know 5(if they were all the same 2)to 9(if they were all different). 9 is way to many to know day 1 are not nasubi therefore I conclude that they DID NOT receive the additional notification of 2 non nasubi members.


Thus your statement of they know 2 non nasubi people is a statement of there being 3 scum members....under my assumption. Simple logic, yes?

[Claus]

unvote

WTF? :-/

[camn]

Not at all, your[sic] the one who said that even if there are 12 scum members they were told 2 people who were not nasubi in

addition to their partners.

Wow.

Show me where I said "no more, no less"

ALSO, show me where I said "scum members ..were told 2 people who were not nasubi in

addition to their partners.

"

Please do those two things.

And stop telling people WHAT I SAID. Just quote me! If you don't I will be forced to assume you are intentionally misrepping me.

[Sajin]

totally. Scum all know 2 people who aren't Nasubi, too.

You state there are 3 scum in the quote above me under my assumption.

For clear statement my assumption is this in if, then therefore clauses for clearness:

IF scum were told of their partners and 2 people each who were not nasubi

THEN they could know up to 9 people who are not nasubi

This would be unbalanced for gameplay, knowing 9 of 14 non nasubi n0

Therefore: The IF statement is most likely not true.







SO assuming the IF statement is false, your statement of knowing for fact that the scum know 2 non nasubi people could only possibly include scum partners. Therefore you claimed 3 no more no less. This is a logical conclusion from your possible misstatement earlier.

Your second statement that you wanted me to show I never said you claimed, nor did I claim. In fact, I am assuming its not true.

Its you who misrepresented me.

[camn]

Your second statement that you wanted me to show I never said you claimed, nor did I claim. In fact, I am assuming its not true.

What, this one? You never said this??

Not at all, your the one who said that even if there are 12 scum members they were told 2 people who were not nasubi in addition to their partners.

WOW.

Your logic statements are irrelevant, and I am going to have a real hard time paying attention to anything you say if you fail at reading comprehension... AND refuse to answer a simple question.

Now, to the underlying issue:
Given a game this size, 3 OR MORE scum is reasonable. (you see I never limit it to 3.)
THUS, any scum could easily name 2 non-nasubi by naming 2 of their (possibly MORE THAN 2) partners.
The Point?? Just that it defeats the strategy of naming non-nasubi to prove yourself town.

The fact that you
a) misrep this postion of mine, but MORE IMPORTANTLY,
b) fail to provide quotes to backup your position
and
c) fail to admit it when you make a mistake

means you are either
a) scum,
b) drunk
and/or
c) a terrible player.

In any event, it is clear that you are unable to back up your position, and unable to admit your mistakes.

Please QUOTE ME in the future if you want to refer to something I have "said" since you are unable to accurately re-state it.

And PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!

Its you who misrepresented me.

Show me where I have done this!

[Tenchi]

Please no sudden stuff happening. Will eat dinner then will read then will post.