PYP 5: Democracy Ho! (Game)

[Seraphim]

Nocmen, bus your buddy, come on, all the cool kids are doing it.

[Parama]

Maru you've given no input whatsoever and instead quick shot the town vig who was already confirmed town... and even with the outcry from your failed dayvig attempt, you went ahead and shot him anyways.
If you're scum, expect to be WOTC'd from every game I play in.
If you're town, expect to be blacklisted by me and many others.

P-EDIT: LOL NOCMEN IS VOTING CONFIRMED TOWN

...AGAIN!

TOMORROWS WAGON IS" NOCMEN!!!!

[Parama]

FTR Nocmen: I am confirmed town because I have the strongman and I claimed it which means scum don't have the strongman. Now cease and desist.

[Maruchan]

Doesn't Seraphims instance give you any pause? I feel like I'm being played here and see no reason to rush.

this guy is scum distancing himself from my quicklynch wagon

jsyk

I don't really care if you think I'm scum given that you are going to be dead very soon, likely with or without my help. You may want to focus a bit more on saving your own ass.

Why? As the game of Mafia is played, I believe VTs are over-all inconsequential to the outcome of the game, and the most information they can provide is by providing a list of FOSes and such to be analyzed when they die, correct?

You're not dead yet, idiot.

With how quick my wagon is buildign if yo uactually think I will survive another 24 hours you are the idiot not I.

I find that since it is a 90% certainty I will die, I would rather not waste my tiem defending myself ang instead help find scum.

[Maruchan]

We are never playing a game of Mafia together again, sorry.

...if you're town. If you're scum, I totally understand.

scumslip by seraphim?

[Maruchan]

Maru you've given no input whatsoever and instead quick shot the town vig who was already confirmed town... and even with the outcry from your failed dayvig attempt, you went ahead and shot him anyways.
If you're scum, expect to be WOTC'd from every game I play in.
If you're town, expect to be blacklisted by me and many others.

P-EDIT: LOL NOCMEN IS VOTING CONFIRMED TOWN

...AGAIN!

TOMORROWS WAGON IS" NOCMEN!!!!

where was Fate confirmed town?

lol

[chamber]

Unvote Vote Seraphim

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Fate was confirmed town by virtue of being easy to read.

Maruchan had better be scum.

Doesn't Seraphims instance give you any pause? I feel like I'm being played here and see no reason to rush.

I think Seraphim is town.

P.S. Parama, this is par for the course for chambertown.

[Vifam]

Okay, caught up.

So like, Maruchan scum, lets do this.


VOTE: Maruchan

[Vifam]

foS:CeS

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

OMGUS FoS: Vifam

[Hoopla]

Bluh. I was actually enjoying playing with Fate for once too.

I actually agree with chamber and Nocmen somewhat. It's hard seeing this as scum motivated. It's hard seeing it as town motivated too, though. I believe Maru's insistence that he just wanted to join the game so he could shoot someone - him selecting dayvig and shooting someone is null - but it's likelier he'd be talked out of it by his buddies if he was scum. I suppose if Maru was adamant he was going for vig, his scumteam would pick someone like Fate who could be the other vig/PGO/whatever else they deemed dangerous, to at least get something out of it before he suicides.

Here's the dilemma. Maru is a troll who probably won't try, or even if he does, he won't be useful. We have no way to vig him, and scum sure as hell isn't going to kill him, and we certainly can't leave him alive until endgame. We either need to have the Cop investigate him or we lynch him today while the lynch is less important. I'd rather not waste a cop result on someone useless (especially if he ends up being town - an innocent is more useful on someone else).

He's probably town, but I think the right play is to lynch him today on the chance he is scum.

VOTE: Maruchan

[chamber]

Hoopla, you are better than that.

[Vifam]

Vifam is the resident professional EpicMafia troll and for that I respect him.
I mean, I have a degree in it, but he's got a doctorate. I wish I could be as cool as Vifam.

I TRY MY BEST, PARAMA.

I TRY MY BEST

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

If Maru's scum, chamber is town.

[Hoopla]

Hoopla, you are better than that.

You'd seriously be cool with Maruchan living deep into the game?

[Maruchan]

Bluh. I was actually enjoying playing with Fate for once too.

I actually agree with chamber and Nocmen somewhat. It's hard seeing this as scum motivated. It's hard seeing it as town motivated too, though. I believe Maru's insistence that he just wanted to join the game so he could shoot someone - him selecting dayvig and shooting someone is null - but it's likelier he'd be talked out of it by his buddies if he was scum. I suppose if Maru was adamant he was going for vig, his scumteam would pick someone like Fate who could be the other vig/PGO/whatever else they deemed dangerous, to at least get something out of it before he suicides.

Here's the dilemma. Maru is a troll who probably won't try, or even if he does, he won't be useful. We have no way to vig him, and scum sure as hell isn't going to kill him, and we certainly can't leave him alive until endgame. We either need to have the Cop investigate him or we lynch him today while the lynch is less important. I'd rather not waste a cop result on someone useless (especially if he ends up being town - an innocent is more useful on someone else).

He's probably town, but I think the right play is to lynch him today on the chance he is scum.

VOTE: Maruchan

I take offense at that! You think I don't try in my games?

[chamber]

Hoopla, you are better than that.

You'd seriously be cool with Maruchan living deep into the game?

I lynch people I think are scum not people I don't want to play with.

[Hoopla]

I lynch people I think are scum not people I don't want to play with.

I could see him being scum.

I don't know what the exact odds are, but they're probably not that much lower than my other scumreads. On day 1, when things are more random, I'd rather lynch based on secondary factors (or at least weigh them in more) like potential helpfulness to the town, potential scumhunting ability and potential night power. We sacrifice in all three areas if we lynch someone other than Maruchan (this assumes both Maru and the alternative is a mislynch).

I think retaining higher amounts of those other qualities is more likely to benefit the town in the long run, as I feel those differences outweigh the difference between Maru odds or being scum and someone else. Does this make any sense?

[Vifam]

Am I the only one getting bad vibes from CES? This town is chock full of Sheeple (Including me I guess) but his sheeping seems very under the radar.

[chamber]

I lynch people I think are scum not people I don't want to play with.

I could see him being scum.

I don't know what the exact odds are, but they're probably not that much lower than my other scumreads. On day 1, when things are more random, I'd rather lynch based on secondary factors (or at least weigh them in more) like potential helpfulness to the town, potential scumhunting ability and potential night power. We sacrifice in all three areas if we lynch someone other than Maruchan (this assumes both Maru and the alternative is a mislynch).

I think retaining higher amounts of those other qualities is more likely to benefit the town in the long run, as I feel those differences outweigh the difference between Maru odds or being scum and someone else. Does this make any sense?

Lynching for those factors severaly limits the amount of information we get from the lynch limiting how effective the next days lynch is. More than that lynching for those reasons gives up a true attempt at hitting scum. The only time a policy lynch is even remotely viable is when the player is otherwise unreadable, and I'm not ready to admit that about maru-chan.

Basically I think marginally increasing the towns average ability isn't more valuable than an attempt at hitting mafia is. (and I don't think maru-chan is better than random at this point).

@vifam:

CES is more or less being CES so far. Not giving him my guaranteed seal of townie approval yet but hes neutral not scummy.

[Magister Ludi]

Vote: Seraphim

[Parama]

Why the hell is maru still alive

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Am I the only one getting bad vibes from CES? This town is chock full of Sheeple (Including me I guess) but his sheeping seems very under the radar.

I only sheep Glrok.

[Magister Ludi]

Seraphim, I thought my characterization was quite nice, actually. Seriously, though, you had several turn arounds that didn't look like town mentality. And it's hardly a 'tunnel', when I'm trying to get the player I think is most likely scum, lynched.