Open 337: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[neil1113]

I think we should get everyone together, see who's playing and who's out, replace those that are out (unless it's more then half), and then do a major restart of this game.

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  neil1113
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  Fakinha
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  Shinki
  
  
  Fakinha
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  neil1113
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  Isa
  
  
  
  Not Voting:
  
  
  Collyer
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  Thomas
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  bv310
  
  
  
  Notes
  
  
• With
  7
  alive, it takes
  4
  to lynch
  
• The deadline for Day 2 is Saturday, October 29th, 12:00AM UTC

[SigmaEXE003]

And DeltaWave replaces Shinki. Please welcome him to the game.

[DeltaWave]

HERE I AM TO SAVE THE DAY

brb while I read the thread

[Fakinha]

Wellcome DeltaWave, and I'm still on the game, but since the games was dead and I'm with P4, I too was absent.
I'm here, I'm playing.

[Thomas]

HERE I AM TO SAVE THE DAY

brb while I read the thread

Welcome! Any catch up post?

[DeltaWave]

HERE I AM TO SAVE THE DAY

brb while I read the thread

Welcome! Any catch up post?

I'm going to make one tomorrow, when I have more time to examine everything in detail. That way, I won't end up half-assing it.

Of course, if anyone wants to confess to being scum, we can make this quick.

[DeltaWave]

Oh lawd neil is so much scum it makes my head spin.

He was so convinced bv was scum that he would go down just to take out bv, then he changes his vote, then he changes his vote again, then he hammers a townie for a frivolous reason. I'm still analyzing D2 so I'll pick that apart in more detail before voting. But seriously how is neil not dead right now.

[Fakinha]

See? If people were more present on the game, maybe it were different...

Just to reforce.
UNVOTE: , VOTE: Neil1113

[DeltaWave]

Oops I didn't vote for Neil

VOTE: Neil1113

[Thomas]

No VC at the top of the page... maybe the mod disappeared again.

Anyway I iso'ed neil and I'm fine with a vote on him. Being suspicious of bv then quickhammering pinkfloyd (he was really annoying though) right after asking people those questions was weird. He did write that post because he wanted people to respond to those questions, right? I would expect a pro-town player to actually want people to answer those questions because it's best to get that information before the mafia can speak again at night. He clearly didn't care if people responded or not.

Vote: neil1113

[Thomas]

Oh and neil1113 is at L-1 by the way.

[Isa]

WHAT.

No, that was hammer.

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[DeltaWave]

Lol

[Thomas]

No... Delta replaced Shinki so before I voted, Neil had 2 votes.

[DeltaWave]

Let's get active and do some killing guys.

[neil1113]

I'm town, and you guys hammered me. Eh I kinda gave up on this game to be honest, so I'm not too mad. Good job.

[DeltaWave]

I'm town, and you guys hammered me. Eh I kinda gave up on this game to be honest, so I'm not too mad. Good job.

I thought you aren't hammered just yet

[neil1113]

Scum Fakinha - 1
Scum #2 Shinki/Delta - 2
Ignorant Thomas - 3.

You're right, that's not a hammer! Unvote Thomas. Seriously. You know as well as anyone in this game I'm not scum, and Fakinha is. Look at my case and tell me I'm wrong. Better yet, look at his play and tell me I'm wrong.

Plan: Lynch Fakinha, flip scum, then lynch his buddy (obv) Delta who comes in and "OH look! Neil is OBV scum! I'll post my case when everyone posts!"

And then what happened to the case?

"Oops! He was hammered!"

Yeah, go die scum. You two both will be lynched. See ya. Come on Thomas, use your head and don't let anyone else influence you. Make your own decision, and if you still think I'm scum, vote for me. If not, let's lynch Fakinha now.

[DeltaWave]

Wow Neil you practically defined OMGUS in that post.

I love how you suspected the first two people who voted for you to be a scumteam, and you appeal to the emotions (and ego, with your "don't fall for that!" BS) of the third. Do you really think that's persuasive? Like you can adopt this begging tone while implying that Thomas is a sheep for voting you? Give me a break. The fact is, you acted about as anti-town as it gets yesterday. As if anyone is going to believe that you are town when you posed all those questions then opportunistically quickhammered a townie without waiting for a response. No amount of plz plz plz unvote me is going to sweep that under the rug.

Also, you made a pretty poor misrep. I never said that I would wait to post my case until everyone did; I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case. Surely you can misrep me better than that, right?

Oh neil, you so scummy. If you don't eat rope today then my head is going to explode with disbelief.

[Isa]

Aaaah, DWave replaced the previous voter...my bad.

Everyone voting Neil should take a look at Fakinha's opening of day 2 and tell me how that is pro-town. I've already summarized my case, but I'll quote it for you to read it again:

My case on Fakinha is completely separated from my read on Neil - she says that it's scummy to avoid starting conversations, yet thinks that when Neil tries to get EVERYONE to answer some questions, it's scummy to ask these questions. And somehow, SHE'S pro-town for wanting to start discussions and Neil pointing out that what she did was actually downplaying the importance of discussion makes him scummy? I don't buy that and neither should anyone else, regardless of read on Neil.

[neil1113]

Wow Neil you practically defined OMGUS in that post.

I love how you suspected the first two people who voted for you to be a scumteam, and you appeal to the emotions (and ego, with your "don't fall for that!" BS) of the third. Do you really think that's persuasive? Like you can adopt this begging tone while implying that Thomas is a sheep for voting you? Give me a break. The fact is, you acted about as anti-town as it gets yesterday. As if anyone is going to believe that you are town when you posed all those questions then opportunistically quickhammered a townie without waiting for a response. No amount of plz plz plz unvote me is going to sweep that under the rug.

Also, you made a pretty poor misrep. I never said that I would wait to post my case until everyone did; I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case. Surely you can misrep me better than that, right?

Oh neil, you so scummy. If you don't eat rope today then my head is going to explode with disbelief.

First let's recap.

Wow Neil you practically defined OMGUS in that post.

Let's look at me defining my case against Fakihna[/quote] where in the same post I quote back to here where I stated there was opportunist scum between both of you. I didn't know if it was one, or both but I clarified at a later point that I wouldn't have believed the odds that it would have been both of you, so I chose one of you. When you sheeped him with your horrible attempt at scum hunting, you basically proved my point. Either you're extremely stupid town, which I don't believe, or you're scum.

I love how you suspected the first two people who voted for you to be a scumteam, and you appeal to the emotions (and ego, with your "don't fall for that!" BS) of the third.

Appeal to whatever is your opinion on my post. I spoke to Thomas like I would speak to a normal person. Also, I didn't suspect the first two people to vote for me. I suspected both him and your replacee when they FIRST posted, before you EVER had a wagon forming on me. Talking about mis-repping? You're stretching to get a quick lynch... you're scum.

Your point was that I made a lynch, even though I posted before asking questions to get conversation started. You know why? Because I thought Pink was going to defend himself and we'd have a day to scum hunt. Instead, Pink decided to act Anti-Town so I eliminated him. Anyone who was on his wagon, who didn't unvote him, was okay with his lynch. So don't give me the "quick lynch" speech. I told everyone it wasn't a good idea, but Pink became more and more anti-town (rather, anti-useful) and so I said forget it and lynched him. Not a good enough reason for you? Well that was my mindset and luckily, you're scum so I could care less how you feel.

Also, you made a pretty poor misrep. I never said that I would wait to post my case until everyone did; I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case. Surely you can misrep me better than that, right?

You're absolutely right. I did misrep it because I misread it. Ironically, my misrep made it look better then the actual scum slip it was. Here's the ACTUAL posts from you.

Oh lawd neil is so much scum it makes my head spin.

He was so convinced bv was scum that he would go down just to take out bv, then he changes his vote, then he changes his vote again, then he hammers a townie for a frivolous reason. I'm still analyzing D2 (

Bold

for Emphasis)

so I'll pick that apart in more detail before voting.

But seriously how is neil not dead right now.

Oops I didn't vote for Neil

VOTE: Neil1113

Oops? No oops. You had no intention on actually trying to build a case on me, because you know you'd have to stretch crap and it'd expose you for the scum you are. No instead you and your partner attempted to force a case on me, and run with a quick lynch (and it almost worked, you had Thomas sheeping you) to win the game. Again not even specifying that we are in LY-LO.

Also I like how YOU tried to misrepresent YOURSELF to make you look better in the eyes of others reading your post.

I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case.

You're a liar. You made a post laying a weak attempt at a case and said you'd pick apart day 2 (because your only case was on one incident in Day 1, other then your opinion on how something went down, not something to base a case on) and instead of ever expounding and ACTUALLY MAKING A CASE, you "oops!" and voted for me. You were shooting for the mislynch all the way, and you didn't care if the ACTUAL evidence was out there. This is NOT a town-mindset, this is a scum-motivated mindset wanting the lynch above everything else, and not caring about the evidence. You know I'm town, because you're scum. When we lynch Fakinha, you're next.

[neil1113]

Wow Neil you practically defined OMGUS in that post.

I love how you suspected the first two people who voted for you to be a scumteam, and you appeal to the emotions (and ego, with your "don't fall for that!" BS) of the third. Do you really think that's persuasive? Like you can adopt this begging tone while implying that Thomas is a sheep for voting you? Give me a break. The fact is, you acted about as anti-town as it gets yesterday. As if anyone is going to believe that you are town when you posed all those questions then opportunistically quickhammered a townie without waiting for a response. No amount of plz plz plz unvote me is going to sweep that under the rug.

Also, you made a pretty poor misrep. I never said that I would wait to post my case until everyone did; I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case. Surely you can misrep me better than that, right?

Oh neil, you so scummy. If you don't eat rope today then my head is going to explode with disbelief.

First let's recap.

Wow Neil you practically defined OMGUS in that post.

Let's look at me defining my case against Fakihna where in the same post I quote back to here where I stated there was opportunist scum between both of you. I didn't know if it was one, or both but I clarified at a later point that I wouldn't have believed the odds that it would have been both of you, so I chose one of you. When you sheeped him with your horrible attempt at scum hunting, you basically proved my point. Either you're extremely stupid town, which I don't believe, or you're scum.

I love how you suspected the first two people who voted for you to be a scumteam, and you appeal to the emotions (and ego, with your "don't fall for that!" BS) of the third.

Appeal to whatever is your opinion on my post. I spoke to Thomas like I would speak to a normal person. Also, I didn't suspect the first two people to vote for me. I suspected both him and your replacee when they FIRST posted, before you EVER had a wagon forming on me. Talking about mis-repping? You're stretching to get a quick lynch... you're scum.

Your point was that I made a lynch, even though I posted before asking questions to get conversation started. You know why? Because I thought Pink was going to defend himself and we'd have a day to scum hunt. Instead, Pink decided to act Anti-Town so I eliminated him. Anyone who was on his wagon, who didn't unvote him, was okay with his lynch. So don't give me the "quick lynch" speech. I told everyone it wasn't a good idea, but Pink became more and more anti-town (rather, anti-useful) and so I said forget it and lynched him. Not a good enough reason for you? Well that was my mindset and luckily, you're scum so I could care less how you feel.

Also, you made a pretty poor misrep. I never said that I would wait to post my case until everyone did; I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case. Surely you can misrep me better than that, right?

You're absolutely right. I did misrep it because I misread it. Ironically, my misrep made it look better then the actual scum slip it was. Here's the ACTUAL posts from you.

Oh lawd neil is so much scum it makes my head spin.

He was so convinced bv was scum that he would go down just to take out bv, then he changes his vote, then he changes his vote again, then he hammers a townie for a frivolous reason. I'm still analyzing D2 (

Bold

for Emphasis)

so I'll pick that apart in more detail before voting.

But seriously how is neil not dead right now.

Oops I didn't vote for Neil

VOTE: Neil1113

Oops? No oops. You had no intention on actually trying to build a case on me, because you know you'd have to stretch crap and it'd expose you for the scum you are. No instead you and your partner attempted to force a case on me, and run with a quick lynch (and it almost worked, you had Thomas sheeping you) to win the game. Again not even specifying that we are in LY-LO.

Also I like how YOU tried to misrepresent YOURSELF to make you look better in the eyes of others reading your post.

I made a post saying I was now in the game, and the very next day I laid out my case.

You're a liar. You made a post laying a weak attempt at a case and said you'd pick apart day 2 (because your only case was on one incident in Day 1, other then your opinion on how something went down, not something to base a case on) and instead of ever expounding and ACTUALLY MAKING A CASE, you "oops!" and voted for me. You were shooting for the mislynch all the way, and you didn't care if the ACTUAL evidence was out there. This is NOT a town-mindset, this is a scum-motivated mindset wanting the lynch above everything else, and not caring about the evidence. You know I'm town, because you're scum. When we lynch Fakinha, you're next.

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[SigmaEXE003]

Prodding bv310 and Collyer.

[Collyer]

Thomas, is neil's quickhammer on pinkfloyd after his questions really the only thing you could think of?

bv, you still haven't told us what you were waiting to see unfold?

Everyone voting Neil should take a look at Fakinha's opening of day 2 and tell me how that is pro-town.

I agree with this, especially DeltaWave, take a look at anything else and I'll be grateful.

[DeltaWave]

Fakinha's day 2 could be town who just doesn't have much to work with. I get a null read on that.

On the other hand, Neil you are still totally scum. Your case against Fakinha was totally OMGUS, which Thomas pointed out. Now that I criticized you, I'm #2 on your list. You can claim that you, at one point, said there could be opportunistic scum in the two that replaced; but so what? Anyone could be scum, and I didn't get on your list until I voted you. When I started to criticize you is the moment you started to declare me as scum, and not just the possibility of scum. (By the way, if you were town, you would treat everyone as being possibly scummy.)

I don't buy your "they were anti-town/anti-useful" argument for a quicklynch, especially when you tried to gain townpoints by asking some questions but you couldn't resist dropping the hammer on a townie. Maybe you thought that you could get what you want (a mislynch) and some townpoints at the same time by what you did, but it doesn't fly with me. By the way, that's the excuse that every scum uses but anti-town does not necessarily mean scummy. There is a difference.

I don't know if Fakhina is scum but I know that Neil is scum. Let's do this thing.