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Did I ever say you couldn't be scum together? Find that for me.

That said ... it is possible you are just your terrible at reading me self as Town. And Benmage's play is terribly scummy as I've outlined.

Don't worry - with him agreeing to a 1v1 if I get lynched you both will be solved by Day 2.

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:And both target the two newest players in the game as my possible partners.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize Fate and Benmage were noobs. I guess I should have looked into that better. Also, feel free to ignore the logic that went into my reads in that very same post. If I were trying to hide behind my reads, as you claim, I wouldn't be calling out three of the bigger egos in the game [yourself included].

Also, this can not go unsaid. You accuse others of being scummy for "cherry picking" then do it yourself. AGAIN I find you telling people to do as you say but not as you do and it's a load of crap.

↑ Yates wrote:Also, this can not go unsaid. You accuse others of being scummy for "cherry picking" then do it yourself. AGAIN I find you telling people to do as you say but not as you do and it's a load of crap.

Where the fuck did I cherry pick?

Fact - your primary 'reads' outside of me were the newbs in question. You said "I'd keep an eye on Ben and Fate" which is about as fence-sitting as you can get.

No response for the fact your answer as to why you suspect knox now makes no sense? I understand - your best fabricated response didn't fly and so you want to dodge.

mmmmm k I've read the last two pages.

MoI you're probably town, but we're going to lynch you today to get more flips.

Now, before you shoot me which I'm sure would give you UNTOLD amounts of personal pleasure, I will flip town.

And I want you to say before your vengeshot:



Do that for me so I'll have solace in being shot today.

Now you see why I didn't 1v1 you, I had some feeling you were town but was lynching you anyway because you are toxic to the gamestate. It also turns out you have a pretty decent d1 lynchable role as well, but only if you use it with your head out of your ass. Something hard for you to accomplish I know

mmmmm k I've read the last two pages.

MoI you're probably town, but we're going to lynch you today to get more flips.

Now, before you shoot me which I'm sure would give you UNTOLD amounts of personal pleasure, I will flip town.

And I want you to say before your vengeshot:



Do that for me so I'll have solace in being shot today.

Now you see why I didn't 1v1 you, I had some feeling you were town but was lynching you anyway because you are toxic to the gamestate. It also turns out you have a pretty decent d1 lynchable role as well, but only if you use it with your head out of your ass. Something hard for you to accomplish I know

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:The flaw with this attempt at an explanation is of course zero scum have flipped so your "Oh, it's scummy now" doesn't hold water.

Keep flailing.

You asked us who your scum buddies were. The assumption, OBVIOUSLY, is that you are scum [thus why I am voting for you]. My list is people that will make my suspicious list WHEN you flip scum. These reads are obviously moot if, by some random act of chance, you end up flipping Town and I read you wrong.

Since I see I need to spell things out for you. Scum MoI = the suspicious of the people posted. You clearly know this. You clearly understand this [as that's why you left my knox tell alone]. Yet you cherry pick. Cherry pick. Cherry pick and feign ignorance. It's all bullshit. You aren't even doing a good job of pretending.

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:Fact - your primary 'reads' outside of me were the newbs in question.

That's not a fact. That's a reinterpretation of the facts. The FACT is that I listed 4 people. 2 for reluctance to vote for scum and 2 for distancing with scum.

This:

↑ Fate wrote:you are toxic to the gamestate.

is a statement I couldn't agree with more.

↑ Fate wrote:Now you see why I didn't 1v1 you, I had some feeling you were town but was lynching you anyway because you are toxic to the gamestate.

Fucking spare me. Toxic to the gamestate as a reason for my lynch. Coming from you who has made a fucking career of being an ass regardless of alignment.

Well so everyone is aware in-case something blows up suddenly -

Yates just directly linked to this game in another on-going game.

Yates wrote:Sorry, man, I thought you were kidding.

Well the 'scum slip' is obviously wrong. But aside from that, the problem I'm having is this post of yours:

Yates wrote:This is the first time in the game I have started to think you actually may be scummy as opposed to your usual "charming" self.

This was in response to MOI's post 72. Explain to me... How MOI scum slipped in post 25... But you only started to think he may be 'scummy' in post 72? It doesn't add up...

↑ Korlash wrote:Explain to me... How MOI scum slipped in post 25... But you only started to think he may be 'scummy' in post 72? It doesn't add up...

Because I didn't catch it? If you look back at my post, I actually quoted that out of knox's post.

Here's where I actually quote it: post 67.

@MoI- Pretend this is the final day1 VC

MOI 7 - vijay2vansandani, Pizza, Benmage, Fate, pappums rat,Yates, PeregrineV
Korlash 2 - Istark, Korlash,
vijay 1 - Shotgun
IStark 1 - Knox
BenMage 1 - MOI,

Not Voting-The Jester

Who are town and why?
Who are scum and why?

Yates wrote:Because I didn't catch it? If you look back at my post, I actually quoted that out of knox's post.

Knox's post was before MOI's 72. My point still stands. How, if you caught it in post 67, did MOI not seem scummy until his 72?

Secondly, did you ever look into the slip yourself? Why do you feel it was a scum slip?

Pere wrote:@MoI- Pretend this is the final day1 VC

>.> Seems weird... You haven't mentioned MOI all game long but you're hypothetically hammering him...

- Have you not been reading the thread? I've laid out a number of my suspicions clearly.

Sure, but I want a succinct single post that we can refer back to should you flip town. Kind of like when you die as town and make your last effort to help.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Sure, but I want a succinct single post that we can refer back to should you flip town. Kind of like when you die as town and make your last effort to help.

I'll make that post when I die then. Until that point I'm not giving a full reads list just to humor you given I have no clue who YOU think at this point is scum.

↑ Korlash wrote:How, if you caught it in post 67, did MOI not seem scummy until his 72?

Did you read my post 81? I gave him the benefit of the doubt and wanted to see his response. His reaction in post 72, though, is what removed the benefit from the doubt [again - as I explained in post 81]. Basically, rather than explain himself his reaction was to vote for the person that brought it up.

Yates wrote:Did you read my post 81? I gave him the benefit of the doubt and wanted to see his response. His reaction in post 72, though, is what removed the benefit from the doubt [again - as I explained in post 81]. Basically, rather than explain himself his reaction was to vote for the person that brought it up.

I was going to read it but then I read a review online that spoiled the ending so I got bored and skimmed through "Rogue Herrys" by Hugh Walpole, a good read if a bit dry in the middle.

How can you give him the benefit of the doubt of a scum slip? And why would you pull that benefit over something not at all pertaining to the actual slip? He didn't vote Knox for bringing it up, that didn't even factor into it.

Furthermore, MOI did explain himself. Why are you lying and saying he didn't?

Lastly, I'll ask you again. Why did you think this was a scum slip?

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Sure, but I want a succinct single post that we can refer back to should you flip town. Kind of like when you die as town and make your last effort to help.

I'll make that post when I die then. Until that point I'm not giving a full reads list just to humor you given I have no clue who YOU think at this point is scum.

It's not to humor me, it's to see your reaction when a pro-town act is requested of you, and you are L-1.

As in, what if you "plan" to make that post, but the mod comes in and posts the death scene? Then where would we be?

So, at this point my reads list doesn't matter. What matters is "Do I think MoI is scum?"

So, how about that list?

↑ PeregrineV wrote:As in, what if you "plan" to make that post, but the mod comes in and posts the death scene? Then where would we be?

I'm not worried about that for reason that should be clear if you were following along.

What if he makes that post and them someone other than you comes in and hammers?

What if he makes that post and four people unvote him?

How is posting reads based on information that isn't true a pro-town act exactly?

↑ Korlash wrote:Furthermore, MOI did explain himself.

Where?

Should I just automatically ask you any question I have in threes? That will get very annoying and you'll end up at the bottom of a cliff with two broken legs...

Try his, and this is hard to imagine I know since neither of us has yet to mention it, post 72. Knox says 'blah blah blah, question mark' and MOI responds with:

MOI wrote:Are you not reading the game? Benmage asked me for instances (like A Feast of Crows Mafia, where I was scum) where I started the game with the ‘last to confirm’ RVS vote. Here I responded with the one game I found (Open 320) where I was scum like Feast of Crows.

Take what you will from it, I don't care if you buy it or not, but he clearly did address and respond to it yet you claim he didn't... I hypothesis you didn't actually read it all the way through, did you? Saw what you wanted to color as OMGUS and decided it was enough to run with, right? Am I right? ... three times, damn. Am I right? There... now you have to answer it...

Also... why did you feel it was a scum tell in the first place...