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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:37 pm
by fuzzybutternut
Majiffy can be hard to read, but I think he's scum too, honestly.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:15 pm
by Majiffy
CooLDoG wrote:I think that majjify is scummy for pushing so hard on the wagon, then getting caught out on it and backing off.

Caught out on what, exactly?

Are you even reading this game?

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:14 pm
by CooLDoG
the wagon got shat on by everyone in the town... not you specifically.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:18 pm
by Majiffy
Again, I'm asking if you're reading the game. Specifically the post where I unvoted.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:20 pm
by Axxle
pirate mollie wrote:also I love how I have asked axx twice if we have played together before since he claims meta knowledge on me but he has yet to answer.

Not really. You essentially told me to tell you if and only if I played a game previously with you. (I have not).

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:27 pm
by Axxle
Approximately Normal Guy wrote:How does this make me look stupid?

Approximately Normal Guy wrote:Wow. Defensive, indeed.


PM kinda went ballistic right after I voted her, slinging f bombs left and right. And she said herself that she was playing defensive. Maybe i'm spoiled because the mod in my first game specifically asked people not to curse, but it just seemed like an excessive amount of rage considering the number of votes she had on her.

VOTE: Venmar

Venmar voted jon with no explanation, called it serious, then unvoted when this was addressed. Fluffy posting, I haven't seen an actual thought from him yet.

I was going to criticize this but...
Vote: Venmar

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:28 pm
by Majiffy
Axxle realizes how dumb he is in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

p-edit: Fuck it, we'll do it live.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:30 pm
by Axxle
?

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:32 pm
by CooLDoG
your bullshit justifications don't interest me.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:38 pm
by Majiffy
Axxle wrote:?

Mollie never said "if and only if", or any phrasing that would indicate the former. In other words, she was giving you a direct yes/no question inquiring if you've played a game with her.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:39 pm
by Axxle
pirate mollie wrote:I have never played with you before and if you are going to meta me at least get it the fuck right. I have no fucking idea who you are I am pretty sure I have not played with you unless you are an alt and then you better own the fuck up.

"If you are an alt, fess up" Not "Tell me if I've played with you"

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:39 pm
by Majiffy
CooLDoG wrote:your bullshit justifications don't interest me.

What makes them bullshit?

And if my reasons don't interest you, does that mean you're town tunneling or scum sidelining a vote for the day? Answer with haste, please. I'd like to know if I'm filing you away as idiot or retard for the rest of the day.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:39 pm
by Majiffy
Axxle wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:I have never played with you before and if you are going to meta me at least get it the fuck right. I have no fucking idea who you are I am pretty sure I have not played with you unless you are an alt and then you better own the fuck up.

"If you are an alt, fess up" Not "Tell me if I've played with you"

That's really out of context. And IIRC, moving some things around. Let me go fetch the actual quote.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:40 pm
by Axxle
pirate mollie wrote:also if we have played together before own up

Basically "Own up only if we've played together."

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:42 pm
by Axxle
Majiffy wrote:
Axxle wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:I have never played with you before and if you are going to meta me at least get it the fuck right. I have no fucking idea who you are I am pretty sure I have not played with you unless you are an alt and then you better own the fuck up.

"If you are an alt, fess up" Not "Tell me if I've played with you"

That's really out of context. And IIRC, moving some things around. Let me go fetch the actual quote.

pirate mollie wrote:
Axxle wrote:VOTE: pirate mollie

She's never had an issue with jumping right into RVS before (looking at a bunch of past games, all of which she's town)


I have never played with you before and if you are going to meta me at least get it the fuck
right
. I have no fucking idea who you are I am pretty sure I have not played with you unless you are an alt and then you better own the fuck up.

I had this same retarded conversation with wisdom once:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=24809


She says we have never played together, she basically asks me to prove her wrong, which I don't because she's not.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:42 pm
by Majiffy
pirate mollie wrote:... I am pretty sure I have not played with you
,
unless you are an alt
,
and then you better own the fuck up.

Bolded comma additions are mine to clarify.

"Unless you are an alt" was merely her saying that she doesn't know who you are under your current username. Removing that, it reads "I am pretty sure I have not played with you, you better own the fuck up" aka "you need to answer for why you're giving a meta read on me" aka "have we played together before".

And if you got so far as to believe she was saying "tell me if and only if we have played together before", you're obviously not so reading challenged that you didn't
already know this
.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:43 pm
by Majiffy
So instead of telling her that she's not wrong, you just choose to ignore her? Yeah, that's going to get you far in this game.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:45 pm
by Axxle
Majiffy wrote:So instead of telling her that she's not wrong, you just choose to ignore her? Yeah, that's going to get you far in this game.

If everyone said "you're not wrong" to everyone else whenever they're not wrong this would be a very large thread.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:48 pm
by Majiffy
You're missing the main point; you didn't explain why you're presenting a meta read on a player when it is obvious to both players - and you've not refuted the claim by the other player - that you have never played together.
This necessitates an answer
. You failed to provide. THIS is what Mollie is getting on you for.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:52 pm
by Axxle
I really thought this post implied that I was just going through and reading past games, instead of actually playing games with her.

Axxle wrote:She's never had an issue with jumping right into RVS before (looking at a bunch of past games, all of which she's town)


Maybe I should have been clearer, maybe she should have been clearer, I don't know. I don't see the point in arguing this any further, so sure, I could have clarified.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:55 pm
by Majiffy
Apology accepted.

Want to lynch Fuzzy?

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:58 pm
by fuzzybutternut
I wouldn't.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:02 pm
by Majiffy
Well obviously
you
wouldn't, it's against your wincon! You thilly gooth.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:05 pm
by fuzzybutternut
I don't know. I've seen some self votes before.
But no, seriously, if I were you, I wouldn't.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:08 pm
by Axxle
Majiffy wrote:Well obviously
you
wouldn't, it's against your wincon! You thilly gooth.

Assuming he's not a jester.

My first reaction is that I don't feel like he's the type of player that would have voted john for "gut" if he was scum, he would have a bit more reasoning than that. (From the posts this game, I haven't played with him before nor have I read *every single game* he's been in, heh)