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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:15 am

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d_rouge is being replaced by rajrhcpfreak, I'm just waiting for confirmation.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:02 am

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In mini 255:
rajrhcpfreak wrote:ill be going down to FLORIDA to visit family over the new years... dec 25 - jan 2
I think he has limited access though. But I'm not sure. But I do know he REALLY wants to be in this game.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:16 am

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Quidgyboo wrote:
Dragon Phoenix wrote:Well, great job.

I am Woodstock, I have a tracker role. So far no telling results, unfortunately.
Vote Dragon Phoenix


You lie. I am Woodstock, and my role is actually as a hider. Last night I hid in Snaps house, and I am thinking that is why there was no death.
Quidgyboo wrote:I really don't get it, I hid in Snap's house. I should have protected him. Huh???
To me a hider is a self protector not someone who can protect anyone else. I think the Dr got it right on the first night and that's why there was no kill,
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because you hid in Snaps house. I have never played in a game with a hider however (only read a few) so if I'm wrong someone let me know
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:25 am

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Why are you so reluctant to claim stoofer you're not helping your case by attempting to shift the blame for no real reason and being unwilling to take the initiative to prove your theories.
I really think you should claim now.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:44 am

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I agree with sotty. I thought a hider could protect themself, not protect someone else. But I also have never played with a hider before, so I don't know.

Pickle --
Why do you think Stoofer should claim? I assumed you investigated Stoofer in thinking that he is probably town, and if you get a guilty verdict you know you're paranoid. Maybe I'm wrong though. Do you think you're sane? If you're sane then Quidgbo and Stoofer are our two remaining scum, and you are an exceptionally lucky cop to hit scum 3/3 times. And if you're paranoid, your guilty investigation on Stoofer doesn't mean anything. I don't think he should claim unless we think he's guilty for other reasons.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:57 am

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Rash claims are never good. I think Pickle should elaborate.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:46 pm

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Pickle, Boy Wonder wrote:Why are you so reluctant to claim stoofer you're not helping your case by attempting to shift the blame for no real reason and being unwilling to take the initiative to prove your theories.
I really think you should claim now.
Do you think I might be scum?
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:48 am

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elvis_knits wrote:In mini 255:
rajrhcpfreak wrote:ill be going down to FLORIDA to visit family over the new years... dec 25 - jan 2
I think he has limited access though. But I'm not sure. But I do know he REALLY wants to be in this game.
Thanks, I think I will still wait for him because he did seem really anxious to replace should a place become available so you will all just have to wait until tuesday!
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:54 am

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I just think he should claim so we know where we stand so we could see if I am paranoid or not, What is the harm in him claiming there has been 1 death in three nights and I really doubt that anything bad will come of it. I investigated him because I wasn't sure what he was, if I was paranoid then it doesn't matter but I have been right so far so what says I couldn't be sane? What if "Woodstock" is a traitor and hid in his house so that he died, DP was scum so why shouldn't they be scum as well?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:08 am

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Pickle wrote:What is the harm in him claiming
I think the harm would be if he's a power role. Also, if he's not a power role, it narrows it down for scum who are trying to find the doc.

I'm less interested in Stoofer claiming right now than I am hearing about Quidgyboo's "hider" power. I want to know if he protects himself or whoever he hides with. I also have been thinking about the possibility that Woodstock is a "safe role" for scum and nobody really is woodstock. If two scum claim woodstock and we lynch one and find scum, we probably believe the other woodstock. But I think we should still keep an eye on Quidgyboo, especially because I don't understand the hider/protection angle.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:14 am

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Also from games I have read, the hider (or self protector) can't use his ability every night. Not saying that it's not possible in this game, but I would also like to know if Quidgyboo can hide every night or if there is some kind of restriction.

The idea of Woodstock being a safe claim for scum is an interesting one
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:18 am

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I'm not going to claim today. End of discussion.

So I suggest we start discussing who the remaing scum is/are.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:15 am

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Mr Stoofer wrote:I believe the remaining scum can be found in this group:

d_rouge
Iammars
mlaker
Quailman
Sotty7
I've done my re-read and this is what I saw:

d_rouge
: Virtually AWOL and now being replaced. Impossible to read.

Iammars
: Strange reaction to double roleblocker claim; didn't vote for LyingBrian even though he said Lucy could be scum; pushed to lynch
both
Pickle's investigation targets - ignored that he was almost certainly paranoid; pushed for DP lynch, although unvoted in the middle of it.

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: Few posts; nothing scummy.

Quailman
: I disagree with his analysis and arguments in relation to Pickle's results; but his conclusion was that we should lynch DP; and he was straight onto LyingBrian. [I give him litte credit for the last point, since Quailman is a very experienced player and would have realised that LyingBrian was doomed.]

Sotty7
: He was roleblocked on the night there were no kills; and I'm not sure I understand his attitude to the DP lynch. IGMEOY (and all the others on this list).

In all this I have assumed that the scum knew that Lucy was on their side, but didn't know that LyingBrian was Lucy. That would be the usual way to set-up the Traitor role in a theme game.

I'm fairly comfortable with a
vote: Iammars
in the circumstances.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:54 am

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I agree with almost all of what Stoofer has said (don't use this against me like last time, Stoofer!). Highest on my suspicious list is Iammars and Sotty7. Next is probably mlaker because he's been lurking. Maybe that's excusable because of the holiday. Though he did say he would do a re-read on Monday and hasn't posted yet. d_rouge, I feel is impossible to read right now because he posted once (I think, not sure), and is going to be replaced.

I want to hear from Quidgyboo about his role before I vote, but I could go for either Iammars or Sotty to lynch.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:46 pm

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Oh. Mlaker totally posted... on this page. :oops: Still though, hasn't contributed much. When somebody promises a re-read, I expect something helpful.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:51 pm

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Why am I scummy to you?
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:18 pm

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I can certianly understand why people think I'm possible scum. Being role blocked on a night when there was no kill kinda speaks volumes. :?

All I can do is assue you that I'm pro town though and though. I only unvoted DP at the time because he claimed a good pro town role and leaving my vote on him could have lead to him being quick lynched. I revoted the minute Quidgyboo counterclaimed.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:08 pm

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I'm sorry I haven't posted much. My above post on this page was more of a comment, I hadn't made a conclusion yet.
Vote Sotty 7
I'm doing this because of the evidence against him. Although I acknowledge the fact that I was AWOL for the Sally lynch I think in Peanuts Sally is a pretty safe bet for scum. Role blocked Night 1 is pretty big when no kills happened. I think the safest vote now would be Sotty. Iammars is seeming scummy to me, but I feel more confident with this vote.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:52 pm

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Alright, looks like I was not clear. I am a hider and as a hider I can choose any person's house each night and stay there. If they are scum, I die. If they are town, I protect them and they protect me, so neither of us can be targetted. I can do this each night and in the same house, as far as I'm aware.

I've had a think about it and there are a few reasons as to why Snap died even though I hid there:

1) A roleblocker scum blocked me while a SK killed Snap (I can't imagine there being two more scum)
2) Snap roleblocked me for some reason
3) Snap was double targetted, perhaps I can only block one kill

Pickle:
I don't understand why you want Stoofer to claim. I'm unsure about him (I see nothing scummy about him, but I know he is an excellent player so I suppose that my wariness is normal) but I am more unsure about you. If you had not claimed Charlie Brown I would be trying to lynch you since your behaviour is not very logical. We've pretty much already confirmed you are paranoid, forcing another player to show his hand will lose us more advantage than it could gain, in my opinion.

Sotty:
You keep trying to push attention back to myself, why? I would have not noticed or cared if you simply wanted clarification of my role, but any time someone was mentioned as a possible lynch for today you attempted to redirect the conversation back to me. Want to try explain that?

Vote Sotty7
I know my role and I pretty much confirmed it by counter-claiming, getting a scum lynched, yet you still attack me.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:57 am

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Iammars wrote:Why am I scummy to you?
The best thing I have is how you unvoted DP in the middle of the wagon on him yesterday. Other than that I just sort of feel like your posts have been "off." It's sort of a gut feeling.

To elaborate on the DP wagon unvote -- unvoting your scum buddy is a safe thing to do when there is no claim and counterclaim. Letting DP claim actually helped the mafia because it got Quidgyboo to counterclaim. Another power role outed for the mafia. Then when DP was one from lynch and looking unsavable, you put the finishing vote on DP.

Also, a lot of your posts have been speculation on set-up, which doesn't really help.
Iammars wrote:I can def. see two roleblockers in a mini, if the mafia has a lot of power.
Then you and DP went back and forth for a while arguing if this is possible, if it's "weird" or not. (All of which doesn't help find scum, IMHO).
Iammars wrote:Maybe we have no mafia at all, and the evil is in our heads!
Sorry, was reading the crucible, and this idea popped into my mind.
So I see where this is a joke and all, but combined with a lack of helpful posts, it makes me suspicious of you. Like you want to post, but you still want to lay low.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:25 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
Iammars wrote:Why am I scummy to you?
The best thing I have is how you unvoted DP in the middle of the wagon on him yesterday. Other than that I just sort of feel like your posts have been "off." It's sort of a gut feeling.

To elaborate on the DP wagon unvote -- unvoting your scum buddy is a safe thing to do when there is no claim and counterclaim. Letting DP claim actually helped the mafia because it got Quidgyboo to counterclaim. Another power role outed for the mafia. Then when DP was one from lynch and looking unsavable, you put the finishing vote on DP.

Also, a lot of your posts have been speculation on set-up, which doesn't really help.
Iammars wrote:I can def. see two roleblockers in a mini, if the mafia has a lot of power.
Then you and DP went back and forth for a while arguing if this is possible, if it's "weird" or not. (All of which doesn't help find scum, IMHO).
Iammars wrote:Maybe we have no mafia at all, and the evil is in our heads!
Sorry, was reading the crucible, and this idea popped into my mind.
So I see where this is a joke and all, but combined with a lack of helpful posts, it makes me suspicious of you. Like you want to post, but you still want to lay low.
Until the middle of the DP wagon, we had a cop who wasn't quite sure of his sanity. I was putting pressure on DP to claim, but I didn't want to lynch him until he had. When everyone started piling the votes on, I took mine off to make sure that he had time to claim beforehand.

Also, Stoof, I pushed for both of the investigation targets to claim, not to lynch. It is possible for a cop to hit two scum in his first two nights. You can't determine a cop's sanity until we find out about at least two of his investigation targets.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:50 am

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Quidgyboo wrote:Sotty:
You keep trying to push attention back to myself, why? I would have not noticed or cared if you simply wanted clarification of my role, but any time someone was mentioned as a possible lynch for today you attempted to redirect the conversation back to me. Want to try explain that?

Vote Sotty7
I know my role and I pretty much confirmed it by counter-claiming, getting a scum lynched, yet you still attack me.
I'm sorry but you seem to be making something out of nothing. No where today have I "attacked" you. I was confused about your role, but now you have cleared that up - so thank you. Plus it was not just me talking about your role - Elvis was too, and you don't even mention her.

I am more than happy to claim as lynching me, while not a bad lynch, would be a waste. I am not scum.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:07 am

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Vote Count


Iammars - 1 (Mr Stoofer)
sotty7 - 2 (mlaker, Quidgyboo)

not voting : everyone else
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:23 am

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Uh... Did this thread die?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:30 am

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Just about because the vast majority of people are on vacation as for me I don't see any purpose in me saying what I've been saying for days.
Maybe once the holidays end.
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