At least I'm honest about saying my reasons are gut.
Bo, on the other hand, uses "Trust" too much, "Following thoughts", a certain "Lack of interest in scumhunting". And what's wrong with using "the"?
He uses reasons that are easily faked.
(Plus, Who doesn't use their gut?)
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:10 am
by Autti
Just ISO'd Bo. Seems alright to me.
Bo only mentions trust once, and disagrees with Klick over believing a trust tell. Does say following thoughts twice.
The point he picked up against Bulba with "the scum team" is a good pick up IMO. It deserves being mentioned.
But these points you have already stated in #167 One could say you are attacking Bo simply because he started questioning your lack of scum hunting.
And thats because your first actual post to hunt scum was this:
Town: Klick
Scum/Werewolf/Whatever: Bo, Icebox, Bulba
Leaning Scum/Werewolf/Whatever: fuzzy
Null: Everyone else
Three other reads you have provided were all gut based. With little to no explanation. UNVOTE: Bulbazak VOTE: thenewearth
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:39 am
by Autti
Should point out that puts thenewearth at L-2
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:48 am
by Mac
In post 153, Egg wrote:Based on 134, if fuzzy is scum, so is bulb. Acknowledges the wagon, gives an excuse not to be on it, but leaves it open as an option for later. Then makes his mac case. This would make mac town if the fuzzy/bulb team exists.
Why would it make me town and not a member of the other scum team?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:52 am
by Mac
In post 170, Does Bo Know wrote:I'm sheeping because wagons help Day 1. Icebox first, but it lost momentum quickly. Switched to Fuzzy, my other big scum read. Bulb for his possible slip, but I liked his reaction. And now you, for previously having not contributed enough.
Wagons? Yes. Sheeping? No.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:07 am
by Does Bo Know
Tell me how sheeping wagons Day 1 is scum-motivated.
TNE, with a little thought, I feel like you could probably figure out what I meant by "the" scum team. I felt Bulb's response was sufficient enough not to question it any further.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:11 am
by Mac
I didn't say that, but sheeping wagon's isn't a good reason for being on four wagons that have gained momentum and died after. Sheeping is coasting; coasting is look for an easy reason to vote someone; easy reasons for voting someone are scumtells.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:17 am
by Does Bo Know
Meh, I was looking for wagons Day 1. They give off reactions or they don't.
But I like my vote where it is now, wagon-dying or not. TNE is struggling to look like he's scum hunting but he only has me in his sights, when there are so many more posts this game.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:19 am
by Mac
Well yeah but only if there are legit reasons for people being on them other than "yeah, what x said makes sense" - give your own thoughts. Otherwise you are not being pro-town.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:39 am
by Egg
Yeah thene's reads post is an attempt to get people off his back for not contributing.
Mac, you're right. In that scenario you could be on the other scum team. You just wouldn't be scum with fuzzy/bulb.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:46 am
by Mac
I know I'm right. I'm trying to decide if it's a scumslip or a null tell.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:02 am
by Does Bo Know
Alright, Mac. I'll try to post my own thoughts. Even though, personally, I feel like I've been doing that with other people beating me to it first.
Hey, how about you post
your
thoughts on other players? You've mainly commented on like 3 people.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:25 am
by Icebox
Gah I totally forgot about this game. Let me catch up.
-G
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:59 am
by Icebox
Catchup time.
Spoiler: Why do you have a lot of ppl you want to RVS in this quote?
If you had more than one reason as to why you thought he was town, why didn't you say them all together? Now you're just making excuses for him.
Spoiler: Typical TNE-Town meta.
In post 83, thenewearth wrote:1) Because I am. Are you not going to believe me? Damn you if you don't
Spoiler: I forgot why I quoted this post, but I'm pretty sure it'll come back to me later.
In post 103, Klick wrote:Remembrance is using a trust tell, and I highly doubt he wants to break it on this game.
Off-topic, @Rem: Please refrain from using trust tells in the future, for the fun of yourself and others. You will always be killed early as town and be lynched Day 1 as scum if you keep that play. We also don't want someone whose alignment is basically confirmed.
In post 104, Egg wrote:Thene, why RVS vote on someone who is already a popular wagon? Are you pretending to have posted without reading anything and you hadn't noticed the wagon?
There was a wagon?
Spoiler: For some reason, Rem got his scumdar tingling in this post. He haven't explained to me yet, though.
In post 117, zachattack wrote:I'm considering the trust thing a null tell. He set it up probably hoping to get a bunch of town games in a row. I believe he's break it first time he gets a scum role, which could be here.
I think Klick nailed the werewolves. Fuzz and Icebox are the two scummiest looking players aside from the RQS, so that pushes it over the top. I don't like Fuzz because of his "I'm super good as scum, I promise!". I just plain don't like hydras. The partner blame looks like every scum hydra I've seen. I'm good with either vote.
Vote:Fuzz
Why is Klick town?
I don't want to vote for TNE. That looks like it could pick up. He doesn't feel scummy to me.
Spoiler: @Fuzzy: What makes you think that Bo didn't participated in the game yet?
In post 123, fuzzybutternut wrote:Mmhmm.
Now, would you like to start participating in the game, or are you just going to sheep your way to victory?
Town (Not in particular order):
Klick (His line of thought is town, even though I disagree with the whole RQS stuff.)
Bo (I'm pretty sure if he was scum, he would gladly share his "stuff" when got called out for it.)
TNE (For now, meta)
Syry (His post #146 tells all.)
Icebox
Null (Will spend more time on them later when I have some more time. Their posts are BIG)
Mac
Autti
BEF (Did this guy ever posted in here?)
Egg
Bulba (My read on him probably will be heavily dependent on fuzzy's alignment.)
Scum (I want to lynch this guy)
Fuzzy (his posts in general gives me bad vibe. So you might as well as call it gut-scum.)
zack (This is Rem's idea.)
UNVOTE: VOTE: Fuzzy
If you don't like this formatting, please tell me so. I won't use it anymore.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:08 am
by Mac
You do realise that the RVS post wasn't completely serious. The only serious bit was Egg/Syrnana which I found strange.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:11 am
by Icebox
I know it's an RVS post. I just want to know why you want to RVS a lot of ppl.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:28 am
by Syryana
In post 189, Mac wrote:You do realise that the RVS post wasn't completely serious. The only serious bit was Egg/Syrnana which I found strange.
After reading Icebox's post, I noticed you'd asked why I'd RVS'd you and not Egg.
Answer: Your name was higher on the playerlist.
Icebox: You think TNE is town, correct? Do you have any reasons that aren't purely meta? (in unrelated news, I like your post formatting)
We should also poke BEF with a stick. He hasn't said anything since pre-game.
@Mod, I noticed in your rules that players can request prods. Can those prods be requested before the 72 hour mark? If yes, I am requesting a prod on BEF.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:39 am
by Icebox
Not really. Without that meta, TNE is lazy null for me. I'll probably figure more stuff out later in the game.
Still not wild about Mac's play, but at least he's starting to participate.
Due to #188, should TNE flip scum, Icebox is likely his partner.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:00 am
by Does Bo Know
176 has "robots"? What does that even mean?
I can agree about TNE/Icebox likely partners if TNE flips scum.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:00 am
by Syryana
Wtf do you mean, has robots in it?
Pedit: Damnit Bo.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:01 am
by Does Bo Know
Sorry, Syryana. I post fairly frequently around this hour.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:02 am
by Egg
Mac, as I said before, a brief moment of forgetfulness as far as the two scum teams is more likely to come from town. The only reason it's null for me and not a town tell is because I already brought it up earlier. I'm aware of it so it doesn't really work.
Icebox, I personally don't like the spoiler format. Just use quotes with your text underneath. As for game related stuff, I'm not so sure I like how you make a couple of points against thene but still call him town for the meta tell.
Preview edit: icebox/thene team. Yeah pretty much.
And robots? What the fuck? Lol.
Guys quit making me preview edit. That's three times for this post lol.
Egg wrote:Icebox, I personally don't like the spoiler format. Just use quotes with your text underneath. As for game related stuff, I'm not so sure I like how you make a couple of points against thene but still call him town for the meta tell.
That's kinda where I was going with my questions about meta being the only town-tell lol. Just hadn't worked my way to the conclusion yet XD.
