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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:11 am
by RATEDR
Desperado dumb it down a bit man

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:13 am
by Desperado
For example, you might start by explaining how Ravenpaw's votes in particular show indecisiveness, rather than just a blanket "four votes in 5 pages = indecisive, reads scum."

@ Rated: Dumb what down? My word choice? You're the first person to say anything about it...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:15 am
by RATEDR
I dont know if you realize it but your posts recently are really in your face aggressive interrogation and that is a pain to deal with

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:18 am
by ferretlover
I forgot the word "could" between "that" and "alone". Never said that it really is, however. I was just saying that it COULD be.

It's also better to lynch anti-town than anything else but scum.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:19 am
by ferretlover
And scum is anti-town last time I checked.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:24 am
by Desperado
In post 177, RATEDR wrote:I dont know if you realize it but your posts recently are really in your face aggressive interrogation and that is a pain to deal with
I actually didn't realize it, and I wasn't intending to come off that way so that you for pointing it out. I'll try to reign it in a bit.

With that said, I don't see any link between the amount of votes someone has put up and their alignment. I'm concerned that ferret's vote starts and ends with "look how many times she voted!" while failing to address the quality or motivation of those votes at all, let alone the fact that he's essentially scumtelling himself until he can come up with a reasonable justification for why 4 early votes is scummy but 3 isn't.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:34 am
by ferretlover
Look at post #179 for the explanation, thank you very much.

RavenPaw has also only posted 5 times. Are going fast or are they lurking?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:04 am
by Desperado
Explain it again, #179 doesn't address any of my concerns in a meaningful way that I can see.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:07 am
by Desperado
In post 181, ferretlover wrote:Look at post #179 for the explanation, thank you very much.

RavenPaw has also only posted 5 times. Are going fast or are they lurking?
And considering 60% of the player list has less than ten posts (including 7 with less than 5) I'm going to go with "we are going fast." We aren't even 48 hours into the day yet, and it started on a Sunday...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:20 am
by ferretlover
Wow o.O.

It feels like about 5 IRL days into this day. Weird.

I'd also like to point out about RavenPaw that she only has 5 posts, 4 of them are vote/unvote, which means to me she is kind of just riding our wagons and changing her vote when we change the wagon.

"Scum scum want gum gum" (Sorry)

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:22 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 146, ferretlover wrote:This is all a bunch of bullcrap.
How was that fishing?


He was just asking about a possible breadcrumb,
because scum will use that later if they can and want to
. Removing that possibility druing their play makes their claim less believable. I actually think that that is pro-town.
What? How is it fishing for Town Pr's on day 1 is pro-town play? If i am reading the bold correctly, Isn't it obvious that scum will use that information for their night kill? your defence is point less in my understanding.
In post 152, ferretlover wrote:I didn't even see any breadcrumb happening, but I don't see it as bad to point out a possible breadcrumb.
Okay, i will have to consider that you're not reading this game, Monkey himself admitted that he was breadcrumbing.... And you're saying that you don't really breadcrumb is happening??? i don't understand your defence on this subject, none of your points are connecting to each other.

Check post #116
In post 159, Krab Bucket wrote:I do agree with the viewpoint though about the Skulduggery bandwagon though, it's a good way to weed out opportunistic scum. We could try some mousetraps manoeuvres to bait them out, and hopefully we'll hit scum if we do it correctly (unless it's town playing poorly)

~Krabs
Who do you think in Skull wagon is scummy at this moment?
In post 164, ferretlover wrote:oh lol

I just derped around and accidentally clicked RavenPaw's ISO button, and she has vote/unvote FOUR TIMES. I think that alone is enough of a reason to vote for her.

UNVOTE
VOTE: RAVENPAW
Is it only me, Or actually this post looks like " an oppurtunist way" to move his vote from Skull wagon to Ravenpaw wagon becuz this wagon is now speeding up suddenly from last three pages...
In post 179, ferretlover wrote:And scum is anti-town last time I checked.
Scum is not only the possiblity that represents anti-town. Anyone with their individual win-condition such as players (Serial killers, unlynchers , unlynchees) falls under anti-town category and also the players who play with no win-condition are usually considered as Anti-town.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:33 am
by ferretlover
I'm talking about their mindset
BEFORE
they admitted it. You don't know who is and isn't scum, so you may as well point it out. There is no point for Town to breadcrumb at all.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:04 pm
by ArcAngel9
Are you kidding me? you sounding like you know how monkey plays.. ?
and you're not explaning your vote jump from Skull wagon to Raven.... why?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:21 pm
by Fuzzyman
Whether or not you call it "rolefishing", I don't really care. Asking "are you softclaiming role X?" is not a good thing for town-aligned people to do.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:25 pm
by Skullduggery
For the love of nougat, ferretlover, get an avatar.
In post 88, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Skull wrote: Dude, you only have two votes on you at the moment. That's not exactly what I'd call a wagon.
I didn't say it was a wagon. I was speaking to those attempting a wagon.
Okay, fair enough. You just seemed a little defensive about it, is all. I'm trying to figure out whether that defensiveness is coming from exasperated Town or paranoid Scum. I know nothing about your meta and I'm too lazy to do any extensive research into it, so I'll regard you as exasperated Town...for now.

Also, you seem to be under the impression that a wagon on you is a bad thing at this point in the game. It's still really early in the day. No one is getting lynched yet. Look at how much discussion my wagon has generated. Discussion is a good thing, so why go out of your way to nip it in the bud and avoid it?
In post 86, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 85, Skullduggery wrote:Sure seems that way.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nero Cain
^^
OMGUS!!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
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In post 99, Fuzzyman wrote:I'm comfortable with mine on Skullduggery until she gives a better reason for her self-vote.
Have you ever seen a Town player self-vote during the RVS stage to generate discussion or have you only ever seen Scum do it?
In post 102, Ravenpaw wrote:
In post 84, Skullduggery wrote:
In post 65, Ravenpaw wrote:How does self-voting save us?
Well, I saved FuDuzn from being the main wagon, didn't I?
Yes, but it was your vague threat that originally started the Fuduzango wagon in the first place.
Ah, so the FuDuzn mini-wagon is
my
fault now, is it? Nice deflection there.
In post 148, Desperado wrote:Nero is town.
You sound confident. This is the first time you've mentioned Nero. Are you seeing something that I'm not?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:33 pm
by Fuzzyman
In post 189, Skullduggery wrote:
In post 99, Fuzzyman wrote:I'm comfortable with mine on Skullduggery until she gives a better reason for her self-vote.
Have you ever seen a Town player self-vote during the RVS stage to generate discussion or have you only ever seen Scum do it?
Yeah, I have seen that. I've even done it myself in other games as town. And I've even seen town use appeals to emotion and lurk. That doesn't change the fact that scum, especially newbie scum, is more likely to do these things than town.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:35 pm
by ferretlover
[quote='Skullduggery']For the love of nougat, ferretlover, get an avatar.[/quote]

1) Why nougat?

2) Avatars are overrated :P

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:37 pm
by Nero Cain
join the cult of raptors with weapons.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:51 pm
by Nero Cain
Sve: Sooo...in post 90 + 91 Malcolm is calling fuzzyman scum, directly after that you said you "weren't falling for the easy wagon." I then ask you how said fuzzyman wagon was easy. You give some BS response about how you don't know who is in the Malcolm hydra (despite it being on the front page) then sort of OMGUSly call me scum for asking a question. You then say that "it has 8 votes" wich it didn't. We were discussing Fuzzyman, not skull.

Anyone wanna help me policy lynch this before I loose more brain cells?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:04 pm
by RATEDR
How is that a policy lynch

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:07 pm
by Nero Cain
Its a policy lynch 'cause he makes no sense and asking myself if this is more likely to come from scum or dumb town is making my head hurt.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:10 pm
by RATEDR
Oh alright

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:27 pm
by FuDuzn
In post 188, Fuzzyman wrote:Whether or not you call it "rolefishing", I don't really care. Asking "are you softclaiming role X?" is not a good thing for town-aligned people to do.
Do you think the wrestler you are is indictative of their role? He was only asking if I was Fandango, not what my actuall role was.

And after that Raven quote that Skullduggery(I also like the cut of your jib, cool name as well) er....quoted, I can do a Raven lynch.

But seriously, why are we talking policy lynches, stop it Nero.....bad boy.
VOTE: Raven

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:30 pm
by Amethyst Actor
Yeah, I should have specified that the Mom head is the head that's V/LA

What's up Sven, you miss me already?

I skimmed through a bit but Raven is not reminding me of Town raven. Sup Girlie?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:36 pm
by Vifam
That's five votes on Raven....