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I'm sorry I haven't been contributing more. Finals are proving hell. With such vocal townish play from Hapa there's gonna be mostly baaaaa anyways.
I strongly agree with Zef's post #168 where he agrees with some other players. Sheepasheep.
VOTE: NC

I have to add though, there's a lot of agreement here as for now, at least if I compare to the other games I've played. It makes me feel uneasy, but I don't know why. I can't help but feel I'm overlooking something. Regardless, I'll be happy with a NC lynch, cause he seems very scummy, and scum have to go.

Is the scum team Varsoon/Hapa/RainbowJake?

-BC

- Good Cop catch up.

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Hapa wrote:...did you just vote me for trying too hard?
Are you dumb or scum? Tell me which so I can adjust my vote accordingly.

Not liking this. Zefiends vote was valid. Scum have to try to make town look scummy. Sometimes you can tell when their behaviour seems forced.

The choice/question you give him here is scummy. He either admits his "wrong" (he isn't) and you win the argument or he's scum.
The only reason you're confident here is because my partner and Nic voted him (for reasons unknown to me). If they had not voted him, you wouldn't have threatened to vote him as well. This seems opportunistic to me.

The most important thing about this post is that it shows that Daemon isn't reading the thread. Toomai initially had his vote parked on Varsoon, but had moved it before Daemon made this post.

That's null.

Also, it wasn't an interesting start to the day

Agreed. That's the worst part of his post.

You've weakened my scum read a little bit. This post wasn't bad, i'll give you that.
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Versoon wrote:Toomai put a vote on me and he jumped on that wagon real fast

Nice, throwing bs suspicion on the person who voted you is an awesome technique.

Your first post is quite scummy.

Dyslex wrote:NC's vote and explanation is weird. I don't get it.

Scummy. Using weird is too vague and unclear. It seems like you want to set up a vote on him later.

@hp, I'd rather stay in my lighthouse where I live, with my binocular, sipping on some coffee. Aka, wait with a vote until I get the urge to read more carefully through. Seems like votes are flying high anyways. Keep it up sports!

Fair enough. Passing up a chance to vote Nic. I take back what I said.
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acfan wrote:His first post was

very iffy

and he hasn't posted since then; it could just be his newness clouding his actions but for the moment I think this is a good place for my vote.

Terrible reason to call someone scummy. What do you mean by "his post is iffy" exactly?
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Hapa wrote:I get that it's possible not to be sure of things at this stage, but geez don't you have any questions to ask? Aren't you curious about anything?

Good point.

- GC

catch up later, bored.

btw GC is absta101.

Where have you been all game?

Also, why are you grave-digging my posts? I made that analysis on Daemon many days ago. The least you can do is look at my recent content.

Is the scum team Varsoon/Hapa/RainbowJake?

There are many sane combinations of scumteams, but myself and Varsoon probably isn't one of them. Also I'm not thrilled about how you've disappeared off the face of the earth of late. You've acted townie in the early game, but I find myself questioning that read given how much name-dropping you're doing compared with actual analysis.

In post 138, Varsoon wrote:Thanks, Scott, but it's too endearing to call me scum like that.

I'd like a GCBC flip or a NicCage flip.
Although, I really like Nic, so I guess,
Either a Toomai flip or a hapahauli flip would also be good.

Would you like concrete reads?
Here you go. No nulls.

ACFAN: Scum.
CHEERPIE: Town.
DAEMON: Scum.
DYSLEXICON: Scum.
GCBC: Scum.
HAPAH: Town.
HPLEAVES: Town.
PONYJAKE: Scum.
NICCAGE: Scum.
QWINTS: Scum.
SCOTT: Scum.
TOOMAI: Town.
ZEFIEND: Scum.

Too many players with less than 5 posts.
Unacceptable.

Oh good a list of baseless reads. Exactly what I meant.

In post 158, Daemon385 wrote:

In post 151, Varsoon wrote:I've also had more free time in my other games, and I was trying a more direct approach. Notice that I'm also fairly direct in previous scum games, too.

Sometimes I just write things to see what people'll say about 'em.

That's fair it does bring up ideas and topics that were not going on in the first place. Which is a bit of what I did in my original post (though again a bit mis-launched on my part)

Out of everything that has happened since your previous post to this one, THIS is the one point you make?

hap seems town, although he is acting strangely/almost coaching towards Varsoon which is concerning. He unvotes after a weak catchup post citing that Varsoon appears to be more active, and is generally being overly helpful specifically towards Varsoon.

Liking GCBC for town, especially with recent GC commentary.

In post 176, Dyslexicon wrote:I'm sorry I haven't been contributing more. Finals are proving hell. With such vocal townish play from Hapa there's gonna be mostly baaaaa anyways.
I strongly agree with Zef's post #168 where he agrees with some other players. Sheepasheep.
VOTE: NC

Don't like this at all. The blatant sheeping with no addition, then the following post is just empty talk about everyone agreeing? Looks like filler. Still like my Varsoon vote, but Dys is my second choice.

In post 182, hapahauli wrote:Also, why are you grave-digging my posts? I made that analysis on Daemon many days ago. The least you can do is look at my recent content.

Are you scared of past content? It's still valid for what your alignment might be
There's no need to be focused only on the present.

In post 184, Cheery Pie wrote:

In post 182, hapahauli wrote:Also, why are you grave-digging my posts? I made that analysis on Daemon many days ago. The least you can do is look at my recent content.

Are you scared of past content? It's still valid for what your alignment might be
There's no need to be focused only on the present.

I'm not. I'm just fairly annoyed why the "good" half of GBGC took one of my posts to call me scummy and failing to take into account my 46 (now 47) other posts. It's a very irresponsible form of analysis.

THAT's more what I'm more concerned with here.

People are more than willing to look at my past posts, and I certainly will do the same to others. However the context of one's overall play is more important in analysis, and I often find that it is the scum who chose to beleaguer little, points to call someone scum while ignoring the rest of someone else's play.

You've averaged less than a post a day so far. Can I expect you to be more active in the future? Also, two things:

hap seems town, although

he is acting strangely/almost coaching towards Varsoon which is concerning

. He unvotes after a weak catchup post citing that Varsoon appears to be more active, and is generally being overly helpful specifically towards Varsoon.

Regarding the bolded, have you ever caught scum with this heuristic? This is a yes or no question.

Regarding me being "helpful" to Varsoon - I ask questions when I have doubts about a players alignment, because I want to get more information about them. Shouting someone down and tunneling them until they quit is counterproductive to this. There is a legitimate chance that Varsoon is behaving as he is due to being legitimately busy, and I want to entertain that possibility to the fullest extent that I can.

Liking GCBC for town, especially with recent GC commentary.

I thought that recent GC commentary was terrible. He dug through the first few pages of the game and made reads. After being gone for 5 days, that's the best he can do? He admitted to being too bored to finish reading the damn game. Making reads on incomplete information is terribly irresponsible.

Sigh. Two people are V/LA. Fantastic for activity. Really.

Quick reply:

@Hapa - I haven't finished yet, my reads aren't finished. You're a town read atm, dont get upset.

In post 183, Scott Brosius wrote:Don't like this at all. The blatant sheeping with no addition, then the following post is just empty talk about everyone agreeing? Looks like filler. Still like my Varsoon vote, but Dys is my second choice.

Um, I'm not going to make up points when I don't have any. I wouldn't consider it filler when my vote counts as much as anyones.

hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4936333 time=1367913423 user_id=10128]You guys should all stop overreading Varsoon's posts

But why? When I overread Varsoon his posts look scummy, and catching scum is the idea yeah?

Over reading means you are trying to make him scummy IMO like forcing it, his posts really haven't been that scummy and there is no way scum makes that list like that.

Scott needs to stop lurking, I find it funny that he felt the need to call out someone for not giving reads, and immediately got called out on it himself.

I'm still good with a NC lynch, he's laying low hoping his wagon vanishes IMO.

-J

Anyone disagree with me about Nic, his last post on site was yesterday, he has logged on today, and hasn't posted in over 50 hours.




Bottom line, he's logged on and hasn't posted. Don't let his wagon fall apart because he lurks it away.

-J

Yes I see, that wouldn't be a good thing to do. Although I'm not trying to make him scummy, I just see scumminess bubbling away beneath the surface if I choose to look a little deeper. But if I'm swimming about unaware of what lies beneath then sure, I can convince myself it's perfectly safe.

NicCage imo looks more and more suspicious as the days go by for me. It does seem like he is hiding. Since vote count 1.3 where he had 4 votes against him he has only done 2 not very influential post.

Miscounted like 5 but still.

Sigh. There's really no excuse I can find for Nic's behavior at this point. 6 posts, all of them are terrible, and he's awol from the thread.

Problem is, my other scumreads are AWOL too =/

We have a week, and I don't want to be rushing this lynch. We shouldn't hammer quite yet, and we should get as much information as possible before we move onto Day 2. As such I'm not voting NC yet.

To put some speculation to rest: I'm town.

Also, I graduate from college on the 17th and it's currently finals week.
I've got plenty on my plate.

Can we get more on the Toomai wagon.
Hapa, build a case against Toomai. You're good at that.