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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:00 pm

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Alrighty. Let's do this.

VOTE: IBA
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:09 pm

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LYNCH! YOU LYNCH IBAE.
THE FINAL SCUM
DAMN IT
THAT WAS A SHORT GAME
roles and stuff coming up
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:13 pm

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Vaughn
Dr. Howard Mierzwiak- There have been some problems recently with Lacuna, including some key members leaving, and some problems have been discovered with the erasal process. This is especially bad around Valentine’s day, when you have the most business, so you’ve decided to kill everyone who could harm you. You own Lacuna, Inc. and you are trying to erase everyone from each other's memories. Your goons are ibaesha (Stan) and claramata (Patrick). You are immune to night kills, however you are only immune to some investegations. Also, you are responsible for sending me your groups night choice. You know that whenever one of you kills someone all of their posts will be deleted, as they are erased. You have no safe claims, however, when you kill someone at night, you three will be the only one to figure out their role names.
IMMUNE TO EVERY COP BUT MARY
ibaesha
Stan- There have been some problems recently with Lacuna, including some key members leaving, and some problems have been discovered with the erasal process. This is especially bad around Valentine’s day, when you have the most business, so you’ve decided to kill everyone who could harm you. You are an employee of Lacuna, Inc. and are trying to erase everyone from each other's memories. Your godfather is Vaughn (Dr. Howard Mierzwiak) and your fellow goon is Claramata (Patrick). You know that whenever one of you kills someone all of their posts will be deleted, as they are erased. You have no safe claims, however, when you kill someone at night, you three will be the only one to figure out their role names.
Claramata
Patrick- There have been some problems recently with Lacuna, including some key members leaving, and some problems have been discovered with the erasal process. This is especially bad around Valentine’s day, when you have the most business, so you’ve decided to kill everyone who could harm you. You are an employee of Lacuna, Inc. and are trying to erase everyone from each other's memories. Your godfather is Vaughn (Dr. Howard Mierzwiak) and your fellow goon is ibaesha (Stan). You know that whenever one of you kills someone all of their posts will be deleted, as they are erased. You have no safe claims, however, when you kill someone at night, you three will be the only one to figure out their role names.
cropcircles
Joel Barish-You are Joel Barish, played by Jim Carrey. If anyone ever gets erased, you will still have a faint memory of them. They will send you a short post. I will tell them that, and have them pm me, and I will pm you.
Also you are masons and lovers with help im a bug (Clementine Kruczynski). You know her to be pro town and can talk with her at night. However, if one of you dies, the other will die the following night.
help im a bug
Clementine Kruczynski-You are beautiful, however you are identify yourself as a girl whose just looing for her own fucked up piece of mind. Every night you can go to someone and distract them, and effectively block their night action. This can have varying effects, as maybe you sleep with them, or just hang out with them. The will not know their night actions have been prevented.
Also you are masons and lovers with cropcircles (Joel Barish). You know her to be pro town and can talk with her at night. However, if one of you dies, the other will die the following night.
MOD NOTE: IF ONE OF THEM IS ERASED, THE OTHER DOESN'T COMMIT SUICIDE, BUT MAY STILL CONVERSE WITH THE OTHER PLAYER, FREELY. ALTHOUGH THE ERASED PLAYER WILL BE UNABLE TO POST.
Dragon Phoenix
Rob-You enjoy making devices (and smoking weed). As such you are an inventor. Every night you may either make a remote control plane or a birdhouse and send them to a player. You may not send the same thing twice in a row. You may not send an item to the same player twice in a row. You don't know what the items do.
MOD NOTE: REMOTE CONTROL PLANE: COP INVESTEGATION. BIRDHOUSE: HIDE THEM AND PREVENT THEM FROM BEING ATTACKED.
RangeroftheNorth
Carrie-You have your own rocky relationship, and constantly consul Joel Barish, and are a very loyal friend. However, you have no night actions, but you are a vanilla townie.
MOD NOTE: IF JOEL'S MOTHER OR MARY DIES, CARRIE WILL TAKE OVER THEIR ROLES.
Fuldu
Joel's Mother-You may have not been much of a mother to Joel, but you are bound to make up for that. You are the towns doctor, and you attempt to take people out of harms way, by hiding them under your kitchen table, and make no night actions on them work. (However, they can still send their night choice, if applicable).
Commodore Amazing
Young Bully-Although a small child you are very cruel, and once made Joel Barish kill a bird. you are a pro-town vigilante. You also have a one shot day kill, you must post
Kill: (player name)
in the thread, and the player will die, and they day will end with out a lynch. However you won’t be able to use your kill the following night.
Eucalyptus
Mary-Having used to work for Lacuna, Inc. you know all the previous employees. Everynight you may go out and check if someone is an employee of Lacuna.
elvis_knits
Frank-You are Joel Barish's neighbor. It is impossible for you to find love anywhere (in fact you point out that the only velntine's cards you get are from your mother). You are fed up with this, and have decided to kill everyone over Valentine’s Day week. You are a serial killer. You appear innocent to some investegations, and if you are killed night 1 you are immune, but no other nights.
Jentsu
Train Conductor-You drive the train to Montauk and back, you may be a minor role, but you have pretty cool ability. You are pro town and you "switch peoples' seats." Every night give me two names. These two people are switched for the night.
e.g. If A is cop and B is doc, A will protect his target and B will get a result on his.
If A is townie and B is cop, since A makes no choice, the cop choice will be lost. Even if B makes a choice, since he's a townie for that night, he ineligible to receive a result.

Targets:

Lacuna Inc. Mafia:
N1: Claramata will kill Ranger
N2: Vaughn Kills elvis_knits
N3: ibaesha kills AniX and finds out that he is carrie

Clementine Roleblocks:
N1: Blocks CA the Vig
N2: Blocks ibaesha
N3: Blocks Claramata

Messages Sent to Joel:
N1: Ranger sends this:
RangeroftheNorth wrote:I am carrie. I am a vanilla townie. Now, I'm dead. Good Luck.
It is changed to this:
Someone You don’t Remember wrote: I am a vanilla townie. Now, I'm dead. Good Luck.
N2-no erasing deaths
N3:
Someone you faintly remember wrote:If you can read this, I am most likely dead. Crop is town.
Rob-Inventor
N1: Sends birdhouse to Eucalyptus-Innocent Result
Dead

Joel’s Mother-Doc
N1: DP (successful)
N2: Jentsu/Pie

Young Bully-Vig
N1: No choice
D1: Dayvigs DP
N2: No choice
N3: Vigs Claramata (Kill style overridden by Clara erasing herself)

Frank-SK
N1: Dragon Phoenix (inventor)
dead

Train Conductor-Setup Manipulator
N1: elvis_knitts and ibaesha (makes elvis_knitts kill by erasing, however it is protected aganst)
N2: Vaughn and CA (Vaughn’s kill is done via CA’s M.O.)
N3: Clara and help im a bug (bug’s roleblock is instead done via clara’s kill style, Clara had no choice, so no roleblocking)

Mary-Cop
N1: Vaughn works for Lacuna, Inc.
N2: Claramata works for Lacuna Inc.
N3: cropcircles does not work for Lacuna Inc.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:15 pm

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The thread unerased, for anyone interested:
#3: Fritzler, Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:02 pm
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How happy is the blameless Vestal's lot!
The world forgetting, by the world forgot
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind!
Each pray'r accepted, and each wish resign'd.

You all awake, you don't seen anything out of the ordinary, however you all know something is amiss. 11 alive 6 to lynch.
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#4: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:06 pm
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vote: help im a bug
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#5: Dragon Phoenix, Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:57 pm
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vote Claramata

There's a first time for everything.
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#6: Eucalyptus, Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:36 pm
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Where'd the 12th person go, and who was it?

Vote: Vaughn
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#7: elvis_knits, Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:51 pm
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I think we forget whoever dies...like as if they were deleted from our memory.

vote Jentsu
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#8: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:54 pm
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elvis_knits wrote:
I think we forget whoever dies...like as if they were deleted from our memory.
Sweet.
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#9: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:57 pm
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By the way, I don't think any of us have ever heard of the Lord of the Rings. And I definitely haven't heard of the main character, Aragorn. Or the fact that he was a Ranger of the North.
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#10: elvis_knits, Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:13 pm
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Lord of what rings? Ara-who?
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#11: Claramata, Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:47 pm
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elvis_knits wrote:
I think we forget whoever dies...like as if they were deleted from our memory.

vote Jentsu


That would make sense with the plot of the movie (as I understand it from reading the wikipedia page, I've only ever seen parts of it.)...
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#12: Vaughn, Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:20 pm
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Wait, who's missing?

umm... counter-vote: Eucalyptus
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#13: Claramata, Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:38 pm
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OMGUS VOTE: Dark Pheonix by the way
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#14: cropcircles, Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:45 pm
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Vote CA

Heh, I like that mechanic. The no reveal thing sucks though. We could already be down a power role.
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#15: Claramata, Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:00 pm
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cropcircles wrote:
Vote CA

Heh, I like that mechanic. The no reveal thing sucks though. We could already be down a power role.



I like it, it makes the game tougher, more thought is required.
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#16: Vaughn, Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:25 pm
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I just got CA's post...

This is going to be one really long day 1.. or short... depending on how you look at it
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#17: help im a bug, Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:50 pm
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Man, never played in a game like this before. We won't even know if we lynched correctly!


Vote: Elvis_Knits
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#18: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:11 pm
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Oh.

My.

God.

>.<

I hate no-reveals. I wish I'd've realized what the movie was about before this. =\

So, this makes it insanely hard. We'll never really know if a cop dies. We'll never know when mafia dies. We can't check bandwagon trails as easily.

Of all the games, why couldn't I have been scum this time?

*gets ready to take a ton of notes, unsure of what the mod may edit...or erase?*
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#19: Claramata, Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:50 pm
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Jentsu wrote:
Oh.

My.

God.

>.<

I hate no-reveals. I wish I'd've realized what the movie was about before this. =\

So, this makes it insanely hard. We'll never really know if a cop dies. We'll never know when mafia dies. We can't check bandwagon trails as easily.

Of all the games, why couldn't I have been scum this time?

*gets ready to take a ton of notes, unsure of what the mod may edit...or erase?*
There's post editing going on? wha-huh?
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#20: cropcircles, Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:55 pm
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Okay, well I know this movie like the back of my hand. From the method of killing(erasing from everyone's memory), I think it's pretty safe to say that the Mafia is Laguna(the memory erasing company). As such, I'm not sure it is particularly likely that our lynch victims will be part of the "no reveal" theme. We're killing them, not Laguna. Furthermore, the memory erasing process must be done on people while they sleep. So when we lynch someone, there's no way Laguna could erase our memories before we go to sleep. It doesn't make sense, from a flavor standpoint. But I guess we'll see.

[quote=Jentsu]Of all the games, why couldn't I have been scum this time? [/quote]Oh goody! A tell! Unvote, Vote Jenstu
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#21: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:13 pm
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cropcircles wrote:
Okay, well I know this movie like the back of my hand. From the method of killing(erasing from everyone's memory), I think it's pretty safe to say that the Mafia is Laguna(the memory erasing company). As such, I'm not sure it is particularly likely that our lynch victims will be part of the "no reveal" theme. We're killing them, not Laguna. Furthermore, the memory erasing process must be done on people while they sleep. So when we lynch someone, there's no way Laguna could erase our memories before we go to sleep. It doesn't make sense, from a flavor standpoint. But I guess we'll see.

[quote=Jentsu]Of all the games, why couldn't I have been scum this time?
Oh goody! A tell! Unvote, Vote Jenstu[/quote]Good call on both counts! unvote: help im a bug (awesome name, by the way), vote: Jentsu
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#22: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:18 pm
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Claramata wrote:
There's post editing going on? wha-huh?
The mod erased our memories of that 12th player, who presumably got killed by the mafia.

(Note: For extra emphasis, it was the mod, and only from the first post, so far. He can do that.)

And I swear if he goes crazy with that theme in later nights... >.<

@Cropcircles, Commodore: *blink* No, I'm being serious here. Unless the town's roles are very much tipped in our favor, the limitation of info makes a huge swing for the mafia, and it gives me so many awesome ideas I'd love to do if only I were mafia.

Anyone want to hear some of the ideas I wish I could've done?
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#23: Claramata, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:39 pm
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unvote
vote: Jentsu that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
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#24: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:42 pm
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Jentsu wrote:
Anyone want to hear some of the ideas I wish I could've done?
I don't particularly feel like hearing some good ideas for scum in this game. Also, you're not really female, are you?
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#25: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:51 pm
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Commodore Amazing wrote:
Also, you're not really female, are you?
Yes I am.

I'd like to hear more opinions on what I'm posting, though.

Especially from the scum, obv, as opposed to the likely misguided townies such as you.
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#26: Fritzler, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:52 pm
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Vote Count

1 Claramata (Dragon Phoenix)
1 Vaughn (Eucalyptus)
4 Jentsu (elvis_knitts, cropcircles, Commodore Amazing, Claramata)
1 Eucalyptus (Vaughn)
1 elvis_knitts (help im a bug)

3 not voting

6 to lynch
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#27: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:53 pm
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holy hell, four of six voting me?

back the fuck off, people.
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#28: cropcircles, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:53 pm
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Jentzu: I understand what you were saying. The tell is that you came out and declared yourself town. It's something mafia often do to look townie-ish.
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#29: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:58 pm
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cropcircles wrote:
Jentzu: I understand what you were saying. The tell is that you came out and declared yourself town. It's something mafia often do to look townie-ish.
I don't declare myself town. I lay low, use very sound-sounding logic, and at a strategically crippling time for the town declare myself cop, leading people in like sheep.

Don't want to trust that? Check games I've been in, here, MiseTings, or wherever.

Nevertheless, I have never declared myself town day one as scum.

Also... *twitch*

J-E-N-T-S-U
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#30: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:06 pm
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unvote: Jentsu, vote: claramata
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#31: cropcircles, Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:14 pm
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There's a first time for everything...

Mafia is a game in which the unpredictable thrive. I don't like using past games as a resource when examining behavior, as a resourceful player can skillfully change that.

However, if you can convince the rest of us that you are town, then we can lynch claramata right now.
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#32: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:16 pm
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cropcircles wrote:
However, if you can convince the rest of us that you are town, then we can lynch claramata right now.
...? I don't follow.

Why would you just rush into lynching her?
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#33: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:21 pm
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Claramata wrote:
that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
That's a really strange thing to say, Claramata. Something's either a tell or it isn't. It looks to me like you didn't know if it was a tell or if it wasn't, but you decided to get on the bandwagon anyway.
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#34: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:23 pm
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Commodore Amazing wrote:
Claramata wrote:
that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
That's a really strange thing to say, Claramata. Something's either a tell or it isn't. It looks to me like you didn't know if it was a tell or if it wasn't, but you decided to get on the bandwagon anyway.
in b4 "she's a bit of a newb (here at least)"
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#35: help im a bug, Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:11 pm
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Hmm there's four votes on jentsu at the moment. I agree that she looks suspicious, but I think I'm going to hold off on voting at the moment because of that.
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#36: help im a bug, Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:13 pm
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Whoa, never mind, apparently I missed the second page .

I don't really see what's suspicious about Claramata though.
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#37: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:14 pm
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help im a bug wrote:
Hmm there's four votes on jentsu at the moment. I agree that she looks suspicious, but I think I'm going to hold off on voting at the moment because of that.
Actually, there's three. I didn't think it'd be that hard to count.

Also, why is it when I'm town I look scummy? =\

PPE: Yeah.
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#38: Claramata, Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:16 pm
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Jentsu wrote:
Commodore Amazing wrote:
Claramata wrote:
that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
That's a really strange thing to say, Claramata. Something's either a tell or it isn't. It looks to me like you didn't know if it was a tell or if it wasn't, but you decided to get on the bandwagon anyway.
in b4 "she's a bit of a newb (here at least)"
I'm a complete newb jentsu, besides the games in Scumchat and the newbie game, I've never played mafia before (I'm not counting the Cry_Wolf game, which is really simplistic, isn't it?), and so I don't know why everybody's suddenly talking about lynching me instead of Jent or whatever.

What have I done that's suspicious, other than being completely moronic about the game?
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#39: Jentsu, Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:35 pm
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Claramata wrote:
What have I done that's suspicious, other than being completely moronic about the game?
Aww, you don't have to be so mean to yourself... I honestly can't see anything.

I have a feeling for something, but I'll keep it to myself in case I'm right.
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#40: Dragon Phoenix, Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:14 am
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Claramata wrote:
OMGUS VOTE: Dark Pheonix by the way


Thanks, that's a new one for my collection of people who dont know how to spell my name. I'd vote you for it, but unfortunately I'm already doing that.
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#41: help im a bug, Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:09 am
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Haha this game is freaking me out.

I just caught myself thinking "Weird, no nightkills night 1."
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#42: cropcircles, Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:14 am
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There really should have been a at the end of my "lynch clara right now" statement.

The point is, her blatant wagon vote, with "I suppose..." reasoning is also a tell. If Jentsu is mafia, though, then it is much more likley that Clara is town.
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#43: Claramata, Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:03 am
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Dragon Phoenix wrote:
Claramata wrote:
OMGUS VOTE: Dark Pheonix by the way


Thanks, that's a new one for my collection of people who dont know how to spell my name. I'd vote you for it, but unfortunately I'm already doing that.
OMG I'm sorry! Dragon Phoenix, got it!
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#44: elvis_knits, Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:30 am
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Claramata wrote:
unvote
vote: Jentsu that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?


Reason sounds really soft. "Seem?" "Rather?" "like a tell?" All phrased in the form a question. How much more non-commital can you get? First time I was scum, I said stuff like that, trying not to get in trouble.

unvote
vote Claramata
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#45: Jentsu, Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:23 pm
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cropcircles wrote:
There really should have been a at the end of my "lynch clara right now" statement.

The point is, her blatant wagon vote, with "I suppose..." reasoning is also a tell. If Jentsu is mafia, though, then it is much more likley that Clara is town.
The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.
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#46: Vaughn, Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:28 pm
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crop-O's wrote:
Jentzu: I understand what you were saying. The tell is that you came out and declared yourself town. It's something mafia often do to look townie-ish.


Definately a tell, but claramata's wishy-washy sentiments is also a tell.

Shrug, they could be working together, we can't go wrong with voting either off, if one's mafia, the other's the second suspect. If one's townie, then the other is probably mafia.
Jentsu wrote:
I don't declare myself town. I lay low, use very sound-sounding logic, and at a strategically crippling time for the town declare myself cop, leading people in like sheep.

Don't want to trust that? Check games I've been in, here, MiseTings, or wherever.


Given your claimed experience, you should've realized that Day 1, scum will use almost anything unrelated to them to start discussion. I declare poor play on your part if you're really a townie/pro-town.
Jentsu wrote:
holy hell, four of six voting me?

back the fuck off, people.


It's only 4/6, You're one-vote from the edge, no point in getting so excited. It seems to me that we hit our mark exactly, and you're panicking.

I wont put the fifth vote on, because I want you to defend yourself and possibly make a claim if it helps your case.

FoS:Jentsu
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#47: Jentsu, Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:33 pm
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Vaughn wrote:
crop-O's wrote:
Jentzu: I understand what you were saying. The tell is that you came out and declared yourself town. It's something mafia often do to look townie-ish.


Definately a tell, but claramata's wishy-washy sentiments is also a tell.

Shrug, they could be working together, we can't go wrong with voting either off, if one's mafia, the other's the second suspect. If one's townie, then the other is probably mafia.
No. Just. Fucking. No.

Though I'm really not sure why I'm defending her. =\ I always just have this problem with accusing other women, I guess.
Quote:
Jentsu wrote:
I don't declare myself town. I lay low, use very sound-sounding logic, and at a strategically crippling time for the town declare myself cop, leading people in like sheep.

Don't want to trust that? Check games I've been in, here, MiseTings, or wherever.


Given your claimed experience, you should've realized that Day 1, scum will use almost anything unrelated to them to start discussion. I declare poor play on your part if you're really a townie/pro-town.
I know, I suck as town. Thanks for rubbing it in.
Quote:
Jentsu wrote:
holy hell, four of six voting me?

back the fuck off, people.


It's only 4/6, You're one-vote from the edge, no point in getting so excited. It seems to me that we hit our mark exactly, and you're panicking.

I wont put the fifth vote on, because I want you to defend yourself and possibly make a claim if it helps your case.

FoS:Jentsu
It had better not get that far, or else you're all seriously fucking this up for the town.

Un. Fucking. Vote. Me.
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#48: Vaughn, Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:53 pm
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Hey Jentsu, Although I don't have a problem with your cursing, I think it'd be appropriate for the others if you toned it down a notch.

Secondly, Why should we unvote you? Your defense is "I suck, don't kill me". That's not good enough for us. If you suck, what's the point in keeping you around?
Jentsu wrote:
... or else you're all seriously fucking this up for the town.


I've taken that as a pro-town claim, but with the theme of this game, the abilities are limitless, so It'd be prudent if you gave us a better defense.
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#49: Jentsu, Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:59 pm
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Vaughn wrote:
Hey Jentsu, Although I don't have a problem with your cursing, I think it'd be appropriate for the others if you toned it down a notch.

Secondly, Why should we unvote you? Your defense is "I suck, don't kill me". That's not good enough for us. If you suck, what's the point in keeping you around?
Jentsu wrote:
... or else you're all seriously fucking this up for the town.


I've taken that as a pro-town claim, but with the theme of this game, the abilities are limitless, so It'd be prudent if you gave us a better defense.
you total !@#$@!!@#$!#$!@#$!@#$!@$!@$!^^$!$!@#^%!#$$#^!$% with a spoon.

And sorry, it's just I get mad at stupidity. >.< Quite honestly, I find the actions of a fair number in this town stupid. Compounded on other problems in my life recently, it's not like I'm just all happy-happy joy-joy.

Why is it that people listen to me when they shouldn't and don't listen to me when they should? >.<
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#50: Vaughn, Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:05 pm
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One of Life's mysteries: The difference from speaking, and being heard. XD
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#51: Fritzler, Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:26 pm
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Vote Count

3 Claramata (Dragon Phoenix, Commodore Amazing, elvis_knitts)
1 Vaughn (Eucalyptus)
2 Jentsu (cropcircles, Claramata)
1 Eucalyptus (Vaughn)
1 elvis_knitts (help im a bug)

3 not voting

6 to lynch
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#52: cropcircles, Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:43 pm
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Cut the insults and cut the cursing.

[quote="Jentsu"]The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.[/Jentsu]
Accusing players of tells and not fosing or voting is another tell. Would you like to spew any more tells for us?
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#53: Jentsu, Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:44 pm
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cropcircles wrote:
Cut the insults and cut the cursing.
Jentsu wrote:
The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.

Accusing players of tells and not fosing or voting is another tell. Would you like to spew any more tells for us?
I hardly ever use FOS, and I don't feel like voting just for that.
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#54: Jentsu, Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:45 pm
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EBWOP: You should probably try checking for something called "playstyle" before you define what is a "tell" for a given person.

*insert insults and cursing everywhere*
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#55: help im a bug, Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:04 pm
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unvote, vote: Commodore Amazing.

I have a couple of reasons behind this:
Commodore Amazing wrote:
By the way, I don't think any of us have ever heard of the Lord of the Rings. And I definitely haven't heard of the main character, Aragorn. Or the fact that he was a Ranger of the North.


This post struck me as odd as soon as I saw it, but I refrained from OMGUSing. When I saw eleven people in the user list, I had no idea who the missing person was. I didn't memorize the list. Commodore Amazing, on the other hand, apparently had.

But you tend to remember the names of the people you target at night, now don't you. (subtle hint)

Then he jumps on the Jentsu bandwagon, but quickly jumps off to start one on a newbie.

Then there was this post (which addressed CA)--
Jentsu wrote:
Yes I am.

I'd like to hear more opinions on what I'm posting, though.

Especially from the scum, obv, as opposed to the likely misguided townies such as you.


This post seems to me like an attempt to deflect suspicion off of Commodore Amazing.

Overall, my impression is that Jentsu and Commodore Amazing are trying to defend each other without making it look like that's what they're doing. I'm willing to vote for either one, but I think that the first quote, where he remembers ROTN's name off the top of his head, puts C.A. higher on my scumdar list.
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#56: Claramata, Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:36 pm
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Apparently I have a bandwagon.. *sigh*. That's not cool ya'll, just not cool.

And you know Bug, I never even noticed that Commodore was the first one to notice that Ranger was the one who was missing. While that is interesting, I'm still most suspicious of Jentsu, while she's a very nice chick, she's still the likeliest suspect for me.
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#57: Vaughn, Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:49 am
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cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA
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#58: elvis_knits, Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:36 am
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I have to say that I sort of agree with Jentsu that a number of people in this town are doing suspicious things.
cropcircles wrote:
Cut the insults and cut the cursing.
Jentsu wrote:
The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.

Accusing players of tells and not fosing or voting is another tell. Would you like to spew any more tells for us?


Actually, I agree with both of you here I don't like when people try to set up a second lynch "in case" the first lynch turns out to be town. Seems like scum setting up one townie for another townie's lynch. But I also don't like when people are being aggressive without voting, as if they want to avoid responsibility.

Also, I think help im a bug's vote on CA is pretty bogus.
help im a bug wrote:

When I saw eleven people in the user list, I had no idea who the missing person was. I didn't memorize the list. Commodore Amazing, on the other hand, apparently had.

But you tend to remember the names of the people you target at night, now don't you. (subtle hint)


I don't think you can say that CA knew the missing person was RangeroftheNorth because CA targetted him last night. You can find out the name of the missing player by checking the "Queue" thread and seeing who signed up for the game. I checked the Queue thread myself to see who the missing person was.
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#59: elvis_knits, Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:23 am
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P.S. Vaughn just did the same thing about saying "if x is not mafia, let's lynch y!"
Vaughn wrote:
cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA



I don't see what your connection is between Jentsu and CA that would make you say, "if Jentsu is town, CA must be scum."
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#60: cropcircles, Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:49 am
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Vaughn wrote:
cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA Wink

Actually, it was help im a bug who presented the case against CA. Funny you should confuse us.

I think CA's early comment does incriminate him. Just not enough for a vote. I also don't like accusing people based off the idea that another player is mafia before confirming that the other person actually is. If one turns up scum, then it's a point against the other, but only then.

I understand the tactic of setting up the lynch-after-next that scum so love. But I think it is a bit short sighted to apply that here. You can learn a lot from a wagon, especially the third and fourth votes. It is evidence depending on whether or not Jentsu is mafia and something to be considered. But no lynch will be based soley on this.
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#61: cropcircles, Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:50 am
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"EDIT:"
Jentsu wrote:
*insert insults and cursing everywhere*

Your mom.
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#62: Vaughn, Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:29 pm
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Elvis wrote:
P.S. Vaughn just did the same thing about saying "if x is not mafia, let's lynch y!"

Vaughn wrote:
cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA



Isn't it obvious from my wink that I was kidding?
cropcircles wrote:
Actually, it was help im a bug who presented the case against CA. Funny you should confuse us.


Oh wow (I double-checked), I must've copied/pasted the wrong name. Yes you're right, it was help i'm a bug, sorry about that.
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#63: Jentsu, Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:22 pm
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Vaughn wrote:
cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA

The problem is, you don't want me to turn up dead. =\

And yeah, Elvis caught you on that don't set up second lynches bit.
elvis_knits wrote:
But I also don't like when people are being aggressive without voting, as if they want to avoid responsibility.
I'm not really aggressive, as most any of my games will show you.
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#64: Claramata, Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:07 pm
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Jentsu wrote:

elvis_knits wrote:
But I also don't like when people are being aggressive without voting, as if they want to avoid responsibility.
I'm not really aggressive, as most any of my games will show you.


I don't like the idea of judging someone's behavor by what they do in earlier games, because then if you switch it up a bit from the way you've played as scum before, nobody's going to suspect you.
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#65: Jentsu, Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:37 pm
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Claramata wrote:
Jentsu wrote:

elvis_knits wrote:
But I also don't like when people are being aggressive without voting, as if they want to avoid responsibility.
I'm not really aggressive, as most any of my games will show you.


I don't like the idea of judging someone's behavor by what they do in earlier games, because then if you switch it up a bit from the way you've played as scum before, nobody's going to suspect you.
No, I'm saying I've never been aggressive. I'm still not aggressive.

What's the problem here?
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#66: Eucalyptus, Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:43 pm
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Question, since I haven't seen this, are we assuming that members of the Lacuna inc. are evil?

I can explain that question once answered.

Also, since I really can't have how I play based on previous game since I am new and all, I could see how it would seem unfair to judge some of the players based on previous play. Just for the simple fact that I just started and I already have different ideas of what it is good play and what isn't. Changes day to day.
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#67: Jentsu, Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:04 pm
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I'm about to get very mad in this post. Don't worry, don't take offense. I just feel like exploding all over this place.

And your newness shows. Judging people based on previous play can help.

However, about what I said last, IS NOT FUCKING JUDGING ME ON PAST PLAY YOU FUCKHEADS. THERE'S NO FUCKING JUDGEMENT REQUIRED. I'M STATING THAT I HAVE NOT FUCKING PLAYED AGGRESSIVELY IN THE PAST, AND I STILL AM NOT. WHAT THE FUCK IS SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT FROM THAT?

d-_-b

Besides, I didn't say my lack of aggressiveness has been indicative of scum or town. I just said I've never played aggressively. Someone said I was playing aggressively but not playing aggressively, basically. No. I'm not playing aggressively. I'm not flinging votes left and right for the tiniest little thing.

Figure it out.
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#68: cropcircles, Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:48 pm
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Yeah, I wouldn't really say your play has been aggresive. Your mouth has, but that's hardly scummy.

And yes, I think we should assume Lacuna is evil. They are the ones who erase people's memories, and they are the ones who would have secrets that they don't want revealed.
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#69: Vaughn, Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:50 pm
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Could we perhaps get a new vote count to go with my vote?

Jentsu is just getting overly defensive, and he's drawing too much attention. What has been said hasn't been incriminating, but it seems to me that he's panicking.

unvote, Vote: Jentsu
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#70: Jentsu, Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:56 pm
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Vaughn wrote:
Could we perhaps get a new vote count to go with my vote?

Jentsu is just getting overly defensive, and he's drawing too much attention. What has been said hasn't been incriminating, but it seems to me that he's panicking.

unvote, Vote: Jentsu
You just like voting for me, don't you?

Seriously, it's getting pretty fucking annoying having people vote me. You have no idea how much of a mistake you guys are making by voting for me this much.

And you know what? Fuck you all. It's two from lynch. Want me to claim so you guys will be sorry you made me claim? Because I'm either going to be lynched or erased from memory. Either way, that's a huge loss for the town, but you deserve it, you stupid fucks.
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#71: Vaughn, Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:00 pm
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Jentsu wrote:
And you know what? Fuck you all. It's two from lynch. Want me to claim so you guys will be sorry you made me claim? Because I'm either going to be lynched or erased from memory. Either way, that's a huge loss for the town, but you deserve it, you stupid fucks.


Best Defense Ever...
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#72: elvis_knits, Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:01 pm
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Ummmmm...Jentsu? You have three votes on you. That's three votes away from lynch. I don't really have a problem with you, besides your attitude.

P.S. Thanks for calling me a stupid fuck.
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#73: cropcircles, Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:03 pm
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's not incriminating...but it is? If something isn't incriminating, then it's pretty shoddy reasoning for a vote. Unvote, Vote Vaughn Explain yourself. (Keeping a Fos Jentsu of course)

I forget, are there rules about profanity and flaming on this forum? I wouldn't mind Jentsu getting replaced. I'm rather sick of her refering to us as "stupid fucks" and what not.
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#74: elvis_knits, Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:08 pm
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Fritzler wrote:
RULES
[15] Remember, it’s a game and it’s supposed to be fun. Be nice to your fellow players and your mod. I have zero tolerance for abusive posts.
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#75: Jentsu, Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:49 pm
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I'm sorry, everyone.

ignore me.

And I was two away from lynch. The vote count showed three on me, and there was one vote on me since, and I didn't see any unvotes from those on me.

*looks back*

And I'm a tard. -_- nevermind.
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#76: Fritzler, Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:50 pm
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Vote Count

3 Claramata (Dragon Phoenix, Commodore Amazing, elvis_knitts)
2 Vaughn (Eucalyptus, cropcircles)
2 Jentsu (Claramata, Vaughn)
1 Eucalyptus (Vaughn)
1 Commodore Amazing (help im a bug)

2 not voting

6 to lynch
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#77: Jentsu, Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:32 pm
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whoa, this game dropped off my watched list, and it's like I forgot about it!

o.o

Someone's up to something. ¬_¬
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#78: Commodore Amazing, Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:45 pm
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I'm going to unvote: claramata and vote: help im a bug. I did indeed go to the queue thread and find RangeroftheNorth's name there.

My guess is that help im a bug did remember who he killed, but was hoping that someone in the town would say it first, so he could accuse that person of doing the killing.

Jentsu, be good. You make it to easy for scum to hide behind "I don't like how this person is addressing me" garbage instead of posting real content. Excessive profanity is bad play, pure and simple.
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#79: cropcircles, Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:24 am
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Still awaiting a response from Vaughn...
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#80: help im a bug, Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:36 am
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Commodore Amazing wrote:
Jentsu, be good. You make it to easy for scum to hide behind "I don't like how this person is addressing me" garbage instead of posting real content. Excessive profanity is bad play, pure and simple.


See? There he goes again. Another little subliminal assumption that Jentsu's town.
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#81: cropcircles, Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:34 pm
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Oohhh...good catch, help. FOS CA for now. Still awaiting a response from Vaughn.
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#82: Claramata, Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:32 pm
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Hmmm... Jentsu's still being very defensive, but CA's looking more and more suspicious to me. FOS: CA
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#83: Dragon Phoenix, Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:52 pm
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Interesting developments.

Unvote Claramata

We might want to do more than just FOS CA for his suspiciousness. Let me:

Vote Commodore Amazing
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#84: Claramata, Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:17 pm
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I would be voting for CA, but I'm still a little more worried about Jentsu at the moment.
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#85: Commodore Amazing, Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:24 pm
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Why am I suspicious? Because I checked the queue thread and I don't think Jentsu is scum?
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#86: help im a bug, Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:10 pm
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It's not that you don't think Jentsu is scum.

You seem to have absolutely no doubts about it.
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#87: Commodore Amazing, Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:59 pm
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help im a bug wrote:
It's not that you don't think Jentsu is scum.

You seem to have absolutely no doubts about it.
How do I seem so sure?
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#88: cropcircles, Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:24 pm
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CA, you either need to read the thread or stop playing dumb.
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#89: Claramata, Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:49 pm
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unvote; vote: Commodore Amazing
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#90: Commodore Amazing, Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:04 am
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Sorry if I am not addressing other people's posts individually, but since so many people seem to be voting for me because of other people's reasons, I can't really tell who came up with what idea, and who is just listening to someone else's bad ideas.
Commodore Amazing wrote:
Jentsu, be good. You make it to easy for scum to hide behind "I don't like how this person is addressing me" garbage instead of posting real content. Excessive profanity is bad play, pure and simple.


This is the only thing I have said about Jentsu not being scum. I'm telling Jentsu how I would like her to play if she is town. She might not be town, but either way, I'm trying to get her to stop cussing, so we can talk about things other than cussing. I don't understand how this is "confirming Jentsu as town."

If there is something else that I said that makes me look like I think Jentsu is town, then other people are either spinning my posts or reading way too much in to them. I'll address them if you repost them. Thanks.
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#91: help im a bug, Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:07 am
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Again, you didn't say it directly, but you quickly attempted to defuse the rising Jentsu bandwagon by starting one on a newbie on very specious grounds.
Commodore Amazing wrote:
Claramata wrote:
that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
That's a really strange thing to say, Claramata. Something's either a tell or it isn't. It looks to me like you didn't know if it was a tell or if it wasn't, but you decided to get on the bandwagon anyway.
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#92: Commodore Amazing, Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:13 am
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I felt like Jentsu had done enough to deserve a vote, but once I saw a shady person get on the bandwagon, I fel that the bandwagon might have been misguided. So I thought claramata was more worthy of a vote.

Honestly, you seem way more sure that Jentsu is scum than I seem sure that she isn't.
help im a bug wrote:
Again, you didn't say it directly, but you quickly attempted to defuse the rising Jentsu bandwagon by starting one on a newbie on very specious grounds.
Commodore Amazing wrote:
Claramata wrote:
that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
That's a really strange thing to say, Claramata. Something's either a tell or it isn't. It looks to me like you didn't know if it was a tell or if it wasn't, but you decided to get on the bandwagon anyway.

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#93: Fuldu, Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:10 pm
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Back from my weekend away, and a quick reread suggests that Jentsu needs to find a dictionary and look up the word 'aggressive', because it's hard to think of that level of shouting and swearing as anything other than aggressive behavior. That said, poor play, not scummy behavior.

I'll vote: help im a bug.
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#94: elvis_knits, Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:03 pm
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Claramata wrote:
I would be voting for CA, but I'm still a little more worried about Jentsu at the moment.


So, is the Jentsu thing just about her attitude? I understand that you don't appreciate being called a stupid fuck (as I also didn't enjoy it), but I don't know if that constitutes scummy behavior. For me, the verdict of Jentsu is still out. I'm not convinced she's one way or the other (scummy or not).

I'm most suspicious of cropcircles and Vaughn at the moment (although IGMEOY Claramata). Looked like Vaughn contradicted himself in his last post, and then when cropcircles pointed out the contradiction, Vaughn stopped posting.

About cropcircles -- even though I agree with him about Vaughn, I also don't like the manner that he is pursuing people. When CA asked why he was suspicious, cropcircles only said:
cropcircles wrote:
CA, you either need to read the thread or stop playing dumb.
I think CA's question was valid, so cropcircles response seemed overly snarky to me.

Overall, I am most suspicous of Vaughn because he contradicted himself and then disappeared. Hoping the situation would go away if he ignored it?

unvote; vote Vaughn
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#95: Claramata, Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:19 pm
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what's IGMEOY mean?
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#96: help im a bug, Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:19 pm
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Elvis - can you point out where Vaughn contradicted himself?
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#97: help im a bug, Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:19 pm
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Oh and IGMEOY = I've got my eye on you.
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#98: elvis_knits, Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:28 pm
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I'm talking about this:

Vaughn wrote:unvote, Vote: Jentsu



Could we perhaps get a new vote count to go with my vote?

Jentsu is just getting overly defensive, and he's drawing too much attention. What has been said hasn't been incriminating, but it seems to me that he's panicking.


He says that what Jentsu has said "hasn't been incriminating" but still votes for her. I guess his reason is that he feels Jentsu is panicking, but if you also feel that this is "not incriminating," why vote for her?
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#99: ibaesha, Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:38 pm
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I don't have much time here but read through as much as possible. Apologize for lack of analysis.

Jentsu: Calm the hell down. Sheesh.

I find help im a bug the most suspicious at this point.

vote: help im a bug

--------------------------------

I have very limited access for the next 2-3 weeks. I will check in when I can and understand if I need to be replaced. Sorry guys.
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#100: Jentsu, Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:46 pm
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ibaesha wrote: Jentsu: Calm the hell down. Sheesh. i know, i know, it's just i've been under a ton of stress recently...

i'm getting better.
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#101: help im a bug, Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:46 pm
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Whee, they're just coming out of the woodwork to vote for me

Fuldu wrote: I'll vote: help im a bug.

ibaesha wrote:



I find help im a bug the most suspicious at this point.

vote: help im a bug


Jeez, guys, at least Commodore Amazing tried to give a reason for voting me.
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#102: help im a bug, Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:50 pm
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Whee, they're just coming out of the woodwork to vote for me

Fuldu wrote: I'll vote: help im a bug.

ibaesha wrote:



I find help im a bug the most suspicious at this point.

vote: help im a bug


Jeez, guys, at least Commodore Amazing gave some sort of reasoning behind his OMGUS of me. You're just following his lead because...?
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#103: help im a bug, Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:51 pm
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Oh, I guess it did go through the first time. Sorry :/
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#104: ibaesha, Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:12 am
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Scratch the limited access. After spending a few hours working on one of my computers, I managed to get back online.

The vote was based on a vibe from a not very thorough reading of the thread and limited time. I plan to rectify that shortly.
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#105: cropcircles, Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:14 am
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Please do, Ibaesha, lest I think you scummy.

STILL waiting for Vaughn.
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#106: Vaughn, Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:37 am
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Sorry everyone, this topic dropped from my watched list (how'd that happen?) and i completely forgot about it.

After a quick read, it seems like crop and elvis are waiting on me to defend myself. I would like to turn their attention to post 45... (page 2).

It's weird how they're waiting on something that was already there... just a suspicion, nothing more

Since I'm super lazy to count: let's get a vote count mod
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#107: Vaughn, Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:48 am
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EWOP: The whole "incriminating" thing is poorly worded. I meant to say that although we don't have an substantial evidence of scummy behaviour, what we do know is that Jentsu is panicking, and as far as I can see, no one has a reason to panic in this town, save scum.

That was reason behind my vote, for those who needed the clarafication.
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#108: elvis_knits, Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:13 pm
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Ibae! *huggles*

Vaughn: Poor wording? Perhaps. This game dropped from your watched list? Maybe. Both together? I don't know. It's certainly possible. But that's also why it makes a good excuse.

I still think you got a little too excited back there trying to lynch Jentsu, but I'm happy you posted to explain yourself. Makes a little more sense now, but doesn't make me want to change my vote yet.
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#109: Jentsu, Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:29 pm
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Vaughn wrote: Sorry everyone, this topic dropped from my watched list (how'd that happen?) and i completely forgot about it. lol, I knew it. This thread is trying to make us all forget. Vaughn wrote:



EWOP: The whole "incriminating" thing is poorly worded. I meant to say that although we don't have an substantial evidence of scummy behaviour, what we do know is that Jentsu is panicking, and as far as I can see, no one has a reason to panic in this town, save scum.
I stopped panicking when I realized I wasn't really two away from lynch. If you were me and got to two away from lynch, you'd panick, too.
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#110: Fritzler, Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:19 pm
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Vote Count

3 Vaughn (Eucalyptus, cropcircles, elvis_knitts)
1 Eucalyptus (Vaughn)
3 Commodore Amazing (help im a bug, Dragon Phoenix, Claramata)
3 help im a bug (Commodore Amazing, Fuldu, ibaesha)

1 not voting

6 to lynch
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#111: cropcircles, Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:14 am
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Through my powerful psychic abilities, I have determined that Eucalyptus and Vaughn are scum buddies. Fos Eucalyptus and I'll keep my vote where it is.
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#112: Vaughn, Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:46 am
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Hahah, psychic abilities? Or is it because me and Euc are voting for each other?

Are you claiming cop or are you just simply creating discussion.

So where are we, with the CA/help votes?
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#113: ibaesha, Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:34 am
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unvote After re-reading, I'm not sure what bothered me about bug except disagreeing with him about CA.

I don't think Jentsu-scum would throw temper tantrums. Can someone explain to me what is so suspicious about CA? I'm not getting it.

I think I'd rather vote: Claramata. I don't buy the newbie card and I think there was good intuition in what elvis said here:

elvis_knits wrote:




Claramata wrote:



unvote
vote: Jentsu that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?


Reason sounds really soft. "Seem?" "Rather?" "like a tell?" All phrased in the form a question. How much more non-commital can you get? First time I was scum, I said stuff like that, trying not to get in trouble.


And the sympathy card.

Claramata wrote: Apparently I have a bandwagon.. *sigh*. That's not cool ya'll, just not cool.

The transition from voting Jentsu to CA is also interesting. Look at the posts.
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#114: Commodore Amazing, Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:02 pm
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I could get down with either a claramata or a help im a bug lynch.

Or a Dragon Phoenix lynch.

Basically, I've decided that everyone who is voting for me is scum.
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#115: help im a bug, Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:07 pm
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Commodore Amazing wrote: I could get down with either a claramata or a help im a bug lynch.

Or a Dragon Phoenix lynch.

Basically, I've decided that everyone who is voting for me is scum.

Well, gosh.

I'm convinced.
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#116: Jentsu, Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:12 pm
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Vote: Commodore Amazing
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#117: Vaughn, Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:49 pm
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What the... why the vote help? I read it and I can't see a tell anywhere, just a general "i don't care" attitude from him.
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#118: Claramata, Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:39 pm
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Apparently this thread buged out and dropped a couple of people off the watchlist, it happened to me too, but I quickly recoved it, cause I'm THAT cool XD.

And how was I asking for sympathy with my "oh man, bandwagon" post? It was just me being depressed because I seemed to be close to getting lynched in both this and another game.

And the reason I worded my "that does seem rather like a tell" comment the way I did is because I'm really new at this game, and I don't want to point something out as a tell if it obviously isn't or anything. But if you guys still want to see that as scummy behavior go right on ahead.

I still stand by the idea that Jentsu and Commodore Amazing are in this together and are scum.
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#119: help im a bug, Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:55 pm
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Vaughn wrote: What the... why the vote help? I read it and I can't see a tell anywhere, just a general "i don't care" attitude from him.

What are you talking about?
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#120: Vaughn, Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:30 am
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whoops, sorry bug, I swear I need some sleep, I read Jentsu's post right underneath yours and it seemed like her words was yours...
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#121: Commodore Amazing, Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:51 am
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A big part of me wants claramata dead. Another part of me wants help im a bug dead. But I feel kinda bad about daykilling a newbie, and I think there's pretty good odds that DP is scum.

Kill: Dragon Phoenix

Good night, everyone!
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#122: Vaughn, Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:40 pm
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Er.. what the?

I'm hoping the mod saw your post and went "pfft". Cause if it's twilight right now... you got a lot of explaining to do CA.
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#123: help im a bug, Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:36 pm
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Actually, if it's a real ability, that just cleared CA in my mind.
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#124: elvis_knits, Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:06 pm
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Or maybe you just don't want him to kill you next?
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#125: Fuldu, Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:20 pm
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help im a bug wrote: Actually, if it's a real ability, that just cleared CA in my mind.

I've seen scum with a day-kill ability about as frequently as I've seen town with a day-kill ability (and been day-kill scum more often). It would be an unusually cruel scum role in a no-reveal game, but possibly daytime deaths will be revealed and just not night deaths who fall out of memory.
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#126: help im a bug, Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:21 pm
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Well, who would?

But seriously, that would be way way too powerful of an ability to give to a scum character.
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#127: help im a bug, Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:23 pm
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Fuldu wrote:
I've seen scum with a day-kill ability about as frequently as I've seen town with a day-kill ability (and been day-kill scum more often). It would be an unusually cruel scum role in a no-reveal game, but possibly daytime deaths will be revealed and just not night deaths who fall out of memory.

Really??

I'll admit not being in as many games as you have, but it really seems like it would be drastically overpowered in a game this size.
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#128: elvis_knits, Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:32 pm
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Yeah, probably a day-kill scum would be overpowered, unless we have some really awesome pro-town roles. Since this is Fritzler, and also a theme like Eternal Sunshine, it may be dangerous to try and guess the set-up. I keep forgetting that we don't learn people's roles when they die at night, which sucks because we don't know what roles have died. I am glad we will at least learn DP's role when he gets daykilled. I am assuming CA is not BSing us, as that wouldn't help him at all. I am also assuming that we will learn DP's role. *hopes*
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#129: cropcircles, Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:25 pm
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Okay...why?
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#130: Dragon Phoenix, Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:24 am
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Well, I am not dead yet.... if the kill goes through, I'd better share what I know.

I'm Rob, an inventor on the town's side. I have a vague night action in the sense that I do not know beforehand what will happen. My action last night resulted in an investigation: Eucalyptus is innocent.
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#131: Vaughn, Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:51 am
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Luckily, It's not night yet (perhaps Twilight?), I'm curious DP, is Rob your complete role-name? I can't seem to remember a Rob from the movie at all.
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#132: Vaughn, Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:59 am
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Since i'm heading to bed and tomorrow might be night... I wanna say this, so we have something to go on for Day 2... and If I happen to die tonight... we'll all know why

cropcircles wrote: Through my powerful psychic abilities, I have determined that Eucalyptus and Vaughn are scum buddies. Fos Eucalyptus and I'll keep my vote where it is.

He could've been flavor-texting... or it might be something we should analyze since DP has apparently claimed Euca innocent... On second thought, I think that Euca has an even chance of biting the dust as well tonight

unvote, vote: cropcircles <-- Just in case CA is being silly
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#133: Dragon Phoenix, Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:02 am
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Yup, Rob.
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#134: Fritzler, Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:06 am
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Dragon Phoenix was just sittin around rollin' fatties and smokin' blunts. He was really enjoying himslef. He was gettting a little crazy and shooting out paranoid theories. So CA hit him in the head with a rock and killed him.

DP was Rob, a pro-town inventor.
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#135: Fritzler, Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:31 pm
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AniX is replacing Eucalyptus, who hasn't responded to my prod. (First Time I've ever needed a replacement, true story).
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#136: Fritzler, Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:02 pm
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You all awake. You think about the night. Suprisingly, you remember all of it. You all look around for any bodies and what not.

You find Fuldu. Fuldu was a kind madame. Well, sort of. But for the purposes of the game, Fuldu is a kind person. In fact one of the nices people in the town. You found Fuldu beaten to death and on the floor. He was dead. You found Valentine's day cards from someone's mom spread all over him.

Fuldu - Joel's Mother (Doctor) - Thrased to death in a brutal showing of power Night 2

Nearby Fuldu you find the body of elvis_knits. elvis was on the floor. Beaten savagely over the head with a rock. It looked pretty brutal. It was just like DP yesterday.

elvis_knits - Frank (Serial Killer) - Killed with a Stone Night 2

Its 8 alive, 5 to lynch.
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#137: Claramata, Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:51 pm
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Okay, um, hold on a second, we're remembering nightkills now? *is confused*
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#138: cropcircles, Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:04 am
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That's interesting. Perhaps it depends on which mafioso does the killing? Like, one of them has something along the lines of "When you are sent to kill, your victim will not be remembered by the town?" I dunno, we'll probably need at least on more night to start figuring stuff out.

Now, unless there is a vig, it looks like elvis_knits got Fuldu, and the scum got elvis_knits. Particularly, in the way that CA kills.

Vote CA

Maybe it's too good to be true, but I think CA at least needs to full claim before we can even think of trusting him.
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#139: Commodore Amazing, Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:00 am
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Wow. I am surprised to see that the kill method for elvis_knits matches my kill method. I was not responsible for elvis_knits.
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#140: elvis_knits, Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:53 am
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#141: help im a bug, Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:13 am
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Commodore Amazing wrote: Wow. I am surprised to see that the kill method for elvis_knits matches my kill method. I was not responsible for elvis_knits.

Oh come on. Unless there's three killing groups and two of them use rocks. "It was just like DP yesterday." quoth the mod.

I think I agree, I'm going to need a full claim from you.

vote: CA
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#142: Commodore Amazing, Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:22 am
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A few things -

AniX is innocent according to DP. DP's role was described as "paranoid." But that usually means guilty investigations can be innocent. I'm willing to buy AniX as cleared.

I'm a vig. I can kill someone during the day once. If I do that, I can't kill someone the next night. I can, however, kill tomorrow night. And I will. My role is the little bully that made Joel kill a bird. My role PM doesn't say anything about my kill method.

Can someone remind me who Frank (elvis_knits) was? I don't remember him. I do know that he's the one who killed Fuldu.

As far as the night-kill, I have a couple of guesses. 1 - The mafia can choose their kill method. I don't know if I buy this since I don't remember the memory erasing crew being able to create memories. 2 - There is a role-copier, and he/she copied my role. I don't know what character from the movie would have this role. The role-copiter could be scum or pro-town. If pro-town, Fuldu probably protected correctly last night.

I'm still pretty convinced that the scum are the memory erasers.
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#143: ibaesha, Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:32 am
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^^ good posting

I'm going back to my vote from yesterday.

vote: Claramata
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#144: cropcircles, Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:45 pm
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I believe DP was being described as paranoid, not his role. I remember Rob, he was the one who told Joel the Clemantine had him erased.

The bully killing with a rock makes sense. I was straining myself trying to remember who in the movie would do that, but that makes sense.

Wait, was Frank the guy near the beginning when Joel was checking his mail? You know, the guy who was like "Man, the only Valentines cards I get are from my Mother. How pathetic is that? You're lucky you have Clemintine, Joel, she is way cool." or something to that effect. Was that him?
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#145: elvis_knits, Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:41 pm
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I know who Frank is
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#146: help im a bug, Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:57 pm
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Commodore Amazing wrote:
As far as the night-kill, I have a couple of guesses. 1 - The mafia can choose their kill method. I don't know if I buy this since I don't remember the memory erasing crew being able to create memories. 2 - There is a role-copier, and he/she copied my role. I don't know what character from the movie would have this role. The role-copiter could be scum or pro-town. If pro-town, Fuldu probably protected correctly last night.

If there is a role copier, wouldn't Patrick make sense? After all, he impersonates Joel.
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#147: Commodore Amazing, Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:10 pm
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help im a bug wrote: If there is a role copier, wouldn't Patrick make sense? After all, he impersonates Joel. You get a cookie for that one. You should unvote me now. Elijah Wood would probably be a bad guy, though, right? There's also Tom Wilkinson, Mark Ruffalo, and Kirsten Dunst as possible scum (sorry, I'm bad with character names).

@cropcircles - yes, Frank is the one who only got Valentine's Day cards from his mother.

Will you two unvote me now?

Also, vote: claramata
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#148: AniX, Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:32 pm
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Vote Claramata.

I play by sense of smell. I got Claramata guilt
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:31 pm

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I'm a bit confused. If AniX investigated help Night 3, then why did he declare
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I lied there. He investegated you. He changed half way through.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:25 pm

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Nice! Good job AniX on getting two investigations correct.

It seemed like the town was pretty powerful. Good thing DP confirmed AniX before I day-killed him. :P
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Commodore Amazing wrote:It seemed like the town was pretty powerful. Good thing DP confirmed AniX before I day-killed him. :P
Yea, well i knew if it got too bad, i could take away ranger's back up.

Also i expected much better claims from the scum. My bad miscalling that.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:55 pm

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Ah... I wasn't thinking and I messed up >.<

However, good job on the investigations... why did you pick me first?

I had the PERFECT cover i swear, until you found me guilty, ahh my newbiness shows.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:41 am

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W00t, go town, thanks Fritzler.

*burns Commodore Amazing*

stupid daytime vigilantes....
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:48 am

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Good job everyone! Thanks for the game Fritzler. I wish I had lived longer (and killed more of you) :D
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:48 am

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Wheeeee

Sorry, CA--I was half-convinced you were scum even to the end.
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Thank you, thank you, no autographs please. The SENSE OF SMELL trumps all. I would like to thank Scully for being hot.
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Let me just say that, even though I didn't play in it or watch it happen, this was a great idea for a mafia game.
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