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Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:17 pm**

To be fair, the only difference between myself and katsuki was that he typed it out, while I merely thought it. Well that, and remembering how fucked up it made the game I ran with that rule on my home site.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:17 pm**

In post 172, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 171, Selkies wrote:Ok

So why am I scum, then?
Honestly? Because gut and there not being anyone else I have a legitimate scum read on.

Nice. Well done, chap.

Come vote muffin with me. People don't actually get to slap down a scumread on me and then not push that wagon. That's not how this works.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:17 pm**

Vote Count 1.7

(aka the "I waited for Cabd to post before posting this" Vote Count)

MafiaSSK(0):

Cabd(0):

Selkies(3):

Cabd, zMuffinman, MafiaSSK

zMuffinMan(1):

Selkies

FourTrouble(0):

King Kenny(0):

The Goodfather(0):

kabooooom(0):

Karlos4(0):

RossWilliam(0):

Aronis(0):

Idiotking(0):

Katsuki(1):

FourTrouble

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(8):

King Kenny, The Goodfather, kabooooom, Karlos4, RossWilliam, Aronis, Idiotking, Katsuki

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-02-04 21:00:00)

Non-confirmed players have fourty-eight hours to confirm.

(expired on 2014-01-23 21:00:00)

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:18 pm**

Vote: zMuffin

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:18 pm**

In post 173, FourTrouble wrote:zMuffin, Yes. Your analysis is just WIFOM ("it's too scummy so therefore Katsuki must be town"). I disagree. The main point here is that the critique is more likely to occur to scum than town. Where they post it -- the game thread or privately -- is WIFOM. The fact that someone reads the rule and thinks its bad because it punishes scum -- that's something that scum are more likely to think than town, regardless of how you try to spin the whole posting it in the thread part (which is WIFOM).

But I mean I think there are some instances of WIFOM, where it would truly be just an atrocious scum move to say a statement. I think asking a question about how a rule punishes scum could be seen as that because it is so blatantly scummy. You know?

Bah. Now I'm confusing myself.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:19 pm**

In post 174, Selkies wrote:
In post 172, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 171, Selkies wrote:Ok

So why am I scum, then?
Honestly? Because gut and there not being anyone else I have a legitimate scum read on.
This reminds me of the good old days.

The good old days?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:19 pm**

In post 175, Cabd wrote:To be fair, the only difference between myself and katsuki was that he typed it out, while I merely thought it. Well that, and remembering how fucked up it made the game I ran with that rule on my home site.

Could you describe what happened?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:19 pm**

In post 175, Cabd wrote:To be fair, the only difference between myself and katsuki was that he typed it out, while I merely thought it. Well that, and remembering how fucked up it made the game I ran with that rule on my home site.

That's interesting. You've had experience with it before. I wonder if Katsuki has?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:20 pm**

In post 176, Selkies wrote:
In post 172, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 171, Selkies wrote:Ok

So why am I scum, then?
Honestly? Because gut and there not being anyone else I have a legitimate scum read on.
Nice. Well done, chap.

Come vote muffin with me. People don't actually get to slap down a scumread on me and then not push that wagon. That's not how this works.

I still don't get how muffin is scum. I feel like he's done a nice job of contributing to the town since post RVS.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:21 pm**

In post 178, FourTrouble wrote:
Vote: zMuffin

And also, what? Weren't you just saying how Katsuki was definitely scum?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:21 pm**

zMuffin is a better vote than Selkies. Selkies post where he called SSK town was very genuine and towny. zMuffin is eh.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:22 pm**

In post 184, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 178, FourTrouble wrote:
Vote: zMuffin
And also, what? Weren't you just saying how Katsuki was definitely scum?

Sure, but zMuffin is here (or was a second ago) and Katsuki isn't. I'm not gonna just let my vote sit on someone, waiting for shit to happen.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:22 pm**

So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:23 pm**

http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... -win.8817/

Totally changed voting patterns and habits. Feel free to read up.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:23 pm**

In post 185, FourTrouble wrote:zMuffin is a better vote than Selkies. Selkies post where he called SSK town was very genuine and towny. zMuffin is eh.

If Selkies were scum, then them calling me town would still be genuine?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:24 pm**

In post 186, FourTrouble wrote:
In post 184, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 178, FourTrouble wrote:
Vote: zMuffin
And also, what? Weren't you just saying how Katsuki was definitely scum?
Sure, but zMuffin is here (or was a second ago) and Katsuki isn't. I'm not gonna just let my vote sit on someone, waiting for shit to happen.

But what if Katsuki magically appears while you're gone? Then there'll be less pressure on him!

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:24 pm**

fourtrouble wrote:The main point here is that the critique is more likely to occur to scum than town

so you baselessly assert

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:25 pm**

In post 162, Selkies wrote:also muffin is actually here and i assume he wants to talk to me!

In post 176, Selkies wrote:People don't actually get to slap down a scumread on me and then not push that wagon. That's not how this works.

Hey. You.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:26 pm**

In post 188, Cabd wrote:http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... -win.8817/

Totally changed voting patterns and habits. Feel free to read up.

Also I'll have to hunt around for another link, but I ran a micro 2 of 4 setup with that rule, and a nolynch rng-killed the non-obvious scum day 1 and town won easily because of how boned scum was.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:26 pm**

In post 180, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 174, Selkies wrote:
In post 172, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 171, Selkies wrote:Ok

So why am I scum, then?
Honestly? Because gut and there not being anyone else I have a legitimate scum read on.
This reminds me of the good old days.
The good old days?

The early Selkies games. Orcinus moves the vote around like a force of nature. I reap the data and keep my diplomat hat handy.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:26 pm**

In post 191, zMuffinMan wrote:
fourtrouble wrote:The main point here is that the critique is more likely to occur to scum than town
so you baselessly assert

Actually, I gave some reasons. It had to do with the fact scum are more informed than town, and scum care more about rules that hurt them than town.

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:26 pm**

In post 176, Selkies wrote:People
not named cabd
don't actually get to slap down a scumread on me and then not push that wagon. That's not how this works.

FTFY

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:27 pm**

In post 187, Aronis wrote:So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

So how about you describe your reason?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:27 pm**

In post 190, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 186, FourTrouble wrote:
In post 184, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 178, FourTrouble wrote:
Vote: zMuffin
And also, what? Weren't you just saying how Katsuki was definitely scum?
Sure, but zMuffin is here (or was a second ago) and Katsuki isn't. I'm not gonna just let my vote sit on someone, waiting for shit to happen.
But what if Katsuki magically appears while you're gone? Then there'll be less pressure on him!

As a general rule, pressure from a vote dissipates once you say the word "pressure" with regards to the vote

Get with the program and vote muffin.

Aronis wrote:So. . . I'm going to guess MafiaSSK and FourTrouble are town.

So. . .

[VOTE: zMuffin]

Let's talk about this. What do you think of me and cabd?

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:30 pm**

In post 198, Selkies wrote:
In post 190, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 186, FourTrouble wrote:
In post 184, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 178, FourTrouble wrote:
Vote: zMuffin
And also, what? Weren't you just saying how Katsuki was definitely scum?
Sure, but zMuffin is here (or was a second ago) and Katsuki isn't. I'm not gonna just let my vote sit on someone, waiting for shit to happen.
But what if Katsuki magically appears while you're gone? Then there'll be less pressure on him!
As a general rule, pressure from a vote dissipates once you say the word "pressure" with regards to the vote

Get with the program and vote muffin.

But I think Muffin's town!

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