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In post 119, mastin2 wrote:Yo.

Mastin, here. I'm here to kill you all.

In post 122, mastin2 wrote:*Save you. SAVE you all.

...Crap.

(Out of hydra post for ego...and 'cause I lost the hydra password. I need to ping SSK for him to remind me.)

In post 141, mastin2 wrote:Anywaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay...

-I'm still waiting for SSK to re-send me our password. (The problem is that he sent it to me over site chat originally, and that site chat log has been lost, meaning I no longer have it.)
-Until then, I'm hoping that the mods are okay with me posting out of hydra; I'll quote them all once I can. (Well, SSK probably will beat me to it.)
-But I did get our role PM, so I'm not playing blindly. With that in mind...

In post 17, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Yaaar, we be a hated miller age cop gladiator!

I dare ye treeweasels to counterclaim!

VOTE: Rancid Broderick Drake

The sad thing is that I can equally see this being a scum joke, a town joke, a scum serious fakeclaim, or a town serious roleclaim.

Let's say town for the heck of it*.

In post 28, Red Gyarados wrote:Wait a minute. Wasn't mastin in that game >.>

As scum, yes. Cruised to an easy win.

In post 29, Red Gyarados wrote:I've also obvtown'd like 5 times before post 30, you're all welcome. Reach outs may commence at your earliest convenience.

We're town, you're town, let's lynch some scum.

In post 32, The Fox and the Hound wrote:I don't think there is anything you can possibly do to convince me that you're SSK.

Not even this?

In post 34, The Fox and the Hound wrote:In case anyone was wondering, RG are townish for posts 16 and 24. And because I modded FE Awakening and am pretty sure this is notscience.

This might actually be scum, though.

Holy bleep, they actually ARE scum.

In post 43, Clyton wrote:Hello everyone. I am You.

VOTE: Clyton

Could be town, could be scum, lean towards scum.

In post 44, CarbonFiber wrote:What from post 20 made you think MastinSSK is town? I personally don't see it.
-FT

Bluntly, if you can't see it, then you're probably scum. Like, I didn't even have our role PM and I could tell SSK was town. (Granted, I needed to be absolutely sure, butyeah.)

In post 46, CupcakePanda wrote:Those are some complicated sample PMs.

This IS scum, though.

*Actually a little bit more than for the heck of it. I have a very, very good reason to believe the claim. I'll talk to SSK about how we'll handle that.
/is most certainly not a VT this game, and not ashamed to admit it.
(Through three.)

In post 142, mastin2 wrote:Derp. Through two, not three.

In post 51, Titan wrote:

In post 11, Red Gyarados wrote:I don't know why we're starting other wagons when we can find Tammy's alignment by bringing them to L-3 before Page 5.

VOTE: Titan

good point

tammy needs to town it up quickly

vote titan

In post 52, Titan wrote:

vote titan

In post 53, Titan wrote:Hi!

VOTE: kagura

Okay here's what I need from you guys. Nacho, if you're town I need to feel it. Alternatively, Bork you can obvtown up your slot ASAP please. I will stay with you, but if you value my sanity at all (and if you're town you should!), you will please just do this for me.

I briefly skimmed the first couple pages, notscience here's an awesome town tell for me. I literally just woke up, and the first thing I did was log in to this game. Though I'd love to stay and goof off I've got to go to work.

This actually feels like a scum entrance into the game. Like...I guess it's the tone? The last post isn't the type of friendly banter from town trying to scumhunt a player they know and respect; it feels like scum forcing their way into getting towncred by being confrontational and trying to make it look like town. The earlier posts also feel fake, and honestly, really not liking those self-votes.

In post 146, mastin2 wrote:

In post 72, Kagura wrote:If this is for real, this might affect us.

I'm quite certain it'd affect us.

As I said, bouncing how to handle things exactly off of SSK. Butyeah.

If Nacho says Tammy's town, I won't trust him thanks to this.

In post 83, Lord Business wrote:Is it normal for Titan to manipulate things with emotional blackmail?

I'm not seeing a town attitude towards demanding people prove they are town for the benefit of their mental state. Seems both forced and trying to stay in the upper hand.

What is this, an AP alt? (Stop stealing my thoughts before I think them!)

I do vaguely agree with Mac being townish, though not overwhelmingly so. (Yet.)

/4. Gotta go, briefly, so be back in a moment.

In post 158, mastin2 wrote:

In post 101, Titan wrote:I actually think you're town.

Well, duh. That's 'cause you're scum and they're not on your team!

(Non-arrogant answer: They've already made themselves obvtown.)

In post 131, Red Gyarados wrote:I don't really get his entrance about RVS voting when at the time we were out of RVS.

Eh, it looks vaguely townish.

In post 148, Titan wrote:And no I'm not omgusing before anyone accuses me of that BS. But I do not believe for one second Town!Mastin makes those posts. I just don't.

Uh-huh. Sure you aren't. Sure you believe it.

My meds apparently aren't quite as effective as they're supposed to be, because bluntly, there's an extreme feeling that doesn't even feel like arrogance that both SSK and I, separately, are obvtown in our own ways. And that it seriously can't be more obvious.

In post 160, mastin2 wrote:(Admittedly, my posting has a flaw:
Slightly too many scumspects. Gimme a sec to sort 'em.)

In post 161, mastin2 wrote:1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8)
^Already obvtown.

2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV)
^Thinking scum. (Not absolutely sure.)

3 Yukari Yakumo
^I'm just gonna say POE town 'cause screw it, too many scumspects.

4 orcinus_theoriginal
^Let's just call him town for the heck of it.

5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane)
^Not feeling the townness.

6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha)
^Certainly feeling the townness.

8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli)
^Also feeling townness. Strength yet to be determined.

9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling)
^Heck if I know, but let's just assume town for the time being.

10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16)
^Could be scum, quite easily.

11 Lord Business
^AP Alt. (But town.)

12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado)
^Eh, need more for surez, but an apt title; they're probably town so I'll probably be sheeping them.

13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience)
^Probably my strongest townread.

14 Cupcake Panda
^Scumread, strength to be determined.

15 PeregrineV
^Vaguely townish.

16 Clyton
^Vaguely scummish.

17 Mac
^Decently town, but not strongly so.

I'll see about making a list later. (Am multitasking quite severely.)

In post 162, mastin2 wrote:Yep, five scumreads. Four

might

be possible (especially given a stronger town, which I can already tell we have), but five? Heck no; I need one or two less.

Fox/Titan/Carbon are stronger reads than Cupcake/Clyton.

In post 164, mastin2 wrote:(And, yes. Fully aware of the arrogance. I don't know why. That's the thing my current medication is specifically meant to counter. But it's there all the same. That feeling that, yes. I'm on the right track. In spite of the fact that all logic says "stop being so arrogant", there's that

feeling

that I'm actually not wrong on these. Of course I'm not flipping the switch, though.)

In post 172, mastin2 wrote:

In post 163, Titan wrote:Then she lets us know she did, in fact, get her role pm.

I asked for it specifically.

Her response to CarbonFiber that if he didn't see SSK was town then he's scum because she knew SSK was town before she got her role pm.

Yep! I could tell our slot was town before I got the PM. Asking for the PM was basically just a formality,

just

in case we were actually scum. (Playing blind as scum is extremely frowned upon. So

just

in case I was wrong, I needed it.)

Then he called my post confrontational with Nacho and Bork.

Because it was confrontational. You were confronting him. That's what the word means. It was the very LACK of friendly banter that set off the alarm bell. Like...I know you play with Nacho a lot. But your response? Wasn't the type of...whimsy?...I'd expect from town-not-knowing-alignment; it seems like scum-wanting-to-make-good-impression. Specifically BECAUSE Nacho'd expect it. Like...that same post made with a different tone/approach/angle would be town, but the way you did it felt...

off

.

I don't think for one second that she disrespects Nacho's ability in mafia so much that she thinks that Nacho would be swayed by me saying he'll see I'm town from my first post and call me town if he didn't feel it.

Not exactly sure I understand, but basically...yes? I respect Nacho's abilities. I don't think him townreading you would be the correct read, in spite of his otherwise-accuracy in reading players.

And I don't believe for one second that she actually believes my first post was emotional blackmail. She's played in enough games with me, as town and as scum, to not even entertain that.

Except past games with you is specifically why that post pinged me. It didn't feel like Tammy-town. At all.

In post 177, mastin2 wrote:

In post 171, The Fox and the Hound wrote:From someone who seems to be so interested in/obsessed with 'tone' (which by the way is a really mercurial idea at this point, what do you even mean by that mastin?), to boot. I'm not sure how anyone could read your vote there as serious, nevermind someone even peripherally aware of the way you play mafia.

Tone was the problem. The self-vote was fake. The following post from the different head far too confrontational. (And, yes. I can't think of a better term, because it really was a confrontation. A direct challenge to Nacho. If that's not confrontational, what do you

call

confrontational?)

I don't think I could tell the difference between what Mastin just did and what she might have done if she was told who to suspect by a random number generator.

Odd. Both heads of yours have played with me before and know me just as well.

In post 180, mastin2 wrote:

In post 176, Titan wrote:I needed to believe they were town, and I needed to believe they were town early. I wasn't confronting them, I was practically begging them to town themselves for me, so I wouldn't have to worry.

You're acting like these are different things.

Like I said. Different tone? Sure, not confrontational. But your tone? Was.

In post 186, mastin2 wrote:

In post 179, Titan wrote:. I couldn't be more town in this game, and you obviously don't know or are pretending to not know what that looks like.

Except this? Is saying this.

Your game this game looks like it's meant to be an imitation of your towngame, rather than an actual towngame.