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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:42 pm
by Rubicon
The way you backed down on your DoctorPepper argument was also really sketchy and doesn't seem to fit the mindset of you arguing for a strategy you think is best - if you really believed you were making a pro-town argument, that's a weird way to show it.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:42 pm
by Rubicon
On the bright side, your last couple posts don't look like a jester reaction to being pressured. :)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:44 pm
by Rubicon
In post 164, Shinobi wrote:I don't get how people think I'm jester. The jester is probably someone who cares more about this game. If you guys want to not lynch me ever though, that's cool.
You're close to the top of the group of 5 possible jester candidates.

If you don't explode by day 4, I think lynching you sounds like a pretty fantastic idea.

How does that sound to you?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:11 pm
by Shinobi
Okay. Here's my read:

UNVOTE: shos
VOTE: Rubicon

I don't get how people have townreads at this point. Nothing has even happened yet.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:12 pm
by Shinobi
I don't even understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You're voting your jester read in hopes that he gives you something good? Wtf?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:21 pm
by DoctorPepper
Im gonna make a catch up post soon, but i think its just ironic for Hiraki claiming im dumb jester who forgot to just self hammer even if i saw that shos basically voted himself to show that someone can self hammer.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:42 pm
by DoctorPepper
Actually i hate to do this, but im just completely uninterested right now. Sorry pie

Mod requesting replacement, i dont think i can play this with much enthusiasm, i apologize

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:45 pm
by Shinobi
Well that's lame.

Hope you find a game that you enjoy more, I guess.

Also, his slot is a town slot. Probably.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:59 pm
by pieguyn
Searching for a replacement for DoctorPepper.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:00 pm
by Rubicon
sorry to see you go dp.
In post 179, Shinobi wrote:I don't even understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You're voting your jester read in hopes that he gives you something good? Wtf?
I think your reaction to my vote is informative regardless of your win condition, just in different ways. Whether I decide to lynch you today will depend.

Let's go at this from a different angle. What do you think of the following players?

ActionDan
Hiraki
Psyche
shos (you unvoted him just now - why?)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:02 pm
by pieguyn
votecount 1.6
Xayzeck (2) - ZZZX, Hiraki

Shinobi (2) - shos, Rubicon
shos (1) - DoctorPepper
ActionDan (1) - Xayzeck
DoctorPepper (1) - ActionDan
Rubicon (1) - Shinobi

Not Voting (1) - Psyche

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is 6/24, 21:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2014-06-24 21:00:00).


DoctorPepper is V/LA until 6/20.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:35 pm
by Hiraki
In post 182, Shinobi wrote:Well that's lame.

Hope you find a game that you enjoy more, I guess.

Also, his slot is a town slot. Probably.
Are you just saying this or is there any sort of reasoning here?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:42 pm
by Shinobi
In post 184, Rubicon wrote:sorry to see you go dp.
In post 179, Shinobi wrote:I don't even understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You're voting your jester read in hopes that he gives you something good? Wtf?
I think your reaction to my vote is informative regardless of your win condition, just in different ways. Whether I decide to lynch you today will depend.

Let's go at this from a different angle. What do you think of the following players?

ActionDan
Hiraki
Psyche
shos (you unvoted him just now - why?)
I don't care about ActionDan because he's boring. He's saying stupid stuff that I don't care about.
Hiraki is talking about stuff that isn't even related to the thread.
Psyche might be town, but idk.
I unvoted shos so I could vote you.

You're acting like I should have strong reads at this stage, and I don't.

And, with 9 other players here, I highly doubt you determine the lynch here today. What an egotistical thing to think. Rofl.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:43 pm
by Shinobi
In post 186, Hiraki wrote:
In post 182, Shinobi wrote:Well that's lame.

Hope you find a game that you enjoy more, I guess.

Also, his slot is a town slot. Probably.
Are you just saying this or is there any sort of reasoning here?
Gut feel. He hasn't said anything spectacular to deserve it.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:05 pm
by Hiraki
In post 187, Shinobi wrote:Hiraki is talking about stuff that isn't even related to the thread.
What?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:06 pm
by Shinobi
It's an over exaggeration.

Your reads were really weird and I hated them.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:08 pm
by Hiraki
Unvote, Vote: Shinobi


I take it back. This isn't jester telling.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:10 pm
by Shinobi
Rofl.

I honestly hope I get lynched for saying your reads were bad.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:26 pm
by Psyche
In post 174, Rubicon wrote:
In post 152, Psyche wrote:Rubicon and AD are the sorts who play apparently protown but are always pretty hard to read. AD's first extended post reads as pretty mechanical in its reasoning, but that might be his deal. I hate having to deal with them.
I wanted to mention that I hate this kind of statement. It
always
freaks me out and pings as a lazy cop-out from even trying to read me/others, which I think you should be able to do.

For one thing, you call our posts 'apparently protown' but don't commit to a town-read on either of us, which either leaves you open to vote both of us if the opportunity presents itself or allows you to slot a buddy in a noncommittal position next to a townie.

For another thing, and on a personal level, it bothers me even more when I can't figure out how the person making a meta argument has the meta they're trying to invoke. As far as I know you have never seen scum-me. Unless it was an alt or something, in which case I feel like you should be able to read me since you've seen both sides.
I'm sorry that you're the sort of person I have trouble reading. It's not personal. It really isn't.
In post 175, Rubicon wrote:The way you backed down on your DoctorPepper argument was also really sketchy and doesn't seem to fit the mindset of you arguing for a strategy you think is best - if you really believed you were making a pro-town argument, that's a weird way to show it.
By deciding not to lynch Doctor Pepper, the town's in somewhat worse shape. But I'm bored of going on and on about it.
We can win even if we do put the DrP lynch off for later.
In post 182, Shinobi wrote:Well that's lame.

Hope you find a game that you enjoy more, I guess.

Also, his slot is a town slot. Probably.
Research has suggested that replacing out is in general scummy. And everything about DrP's play so far suggests that he's not a deviation from the norm. DrP is replacing out for one reason: he has irredeemably fucked up.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:40 pm
by Shinobi
I...don't see the fuck up?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:40 pm
by Psyche
I should probably try a little harder?
In post 174, Rubicon wrote:
In post 152, Psyche wrote:Rubicon and AD are the sorts who play apparently protown but are always pretty hard to read. AD's first extended post reads as pretty mechanical in its reasoning, but that might be his deal. I hate having to deal with them.
I wanted to mention that I hate this kind of statement. It
always
freaks me out and pings as a lazy cop-out from even trying to read me/others, which I think you should be able to do.
I'm really,
really
sorry that you're the sort of person I have trouble reading. It's not personal. It really isn't. It really,
really
isn't.
For one thing, you call our posts 'apparently protown' but don't commit to a town-read on either of us, which either leaves you open to vote both of us if the opportunity presents itself or allows you to slot a buddy in a noncommittal position next to a townie.
Yes, that is in general what people who announce null reads are doing.

Being protown doesn't necessarily invite a townread, because scum have a pretty strong incentive to do most protown things. Only egging on the lynch of their teammates comes to mind as one of the things they don't, and that's only sometimes. I prefer to look for more valid indicators of townhood, whatever those are.
For another thing, and on a personal level, it bothers me even more when I can't figure out how the person making a meta argument has the meta they're trying to invoke. As far as I know you have never seen scum-me. Unless it was an alt or something, in which case I feel like you should be able to read me since you've seen both sides.
No meta arguments here.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:42 pm
by Psyche
In post 194, Shinobi wrote:I...don't see the fuck up?
Uh, he's gonna get lynched before D4.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:45 pm
by Shinobi
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I get it. I get it. Let's kill DrP right now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:46 pm
by Shinobi
UNVOTE: Rubicon
VOTE: DrP's slot

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:52 pm
by Psyche
In post 191, Hiraki wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Shinobi


I take it back. This isn't jester telling.
gimme some details
i need help making sense of this dude