And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:41 am
by The Bulge
↑The Bulge wrote:I know how you play. I've played with you before and I've read some of your games. I get that you're trying to get me to slip up or contradict myself. But you know what? Chances are, I will. That doesn't make me scum, that makes me HUMAN.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:41 am
by Banakai
VOTE: The bulge This vote is better
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:44 am
by kuribo
↑Metal Sonic wrote:okay, it's time to bring the shredder
VOTE: the bulge
kuribo, if you are an expert scumhunter as you so claim, and your reputation implies, you should understand what i'm trying to do
i think we can make good partners
lets do this
I get that and I'll help you with it, but I want Friday first
His blood is my top priority right now
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:45 am
by kuribo
Bulge, what would be your strategy as scum in this setup?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:45 am
by Untrod Tripod
Fuckin shit
unvote vote the bulge
this looks awful and defensive. Not trying to scumhunt, just tryin to post and not get voted.
Tbone what the fuck are you doing,
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:48 am
by zoraster
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:51 am
by The Bulge
↑kuribo wrote:And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all
I never said you rely on meta. I meant it's easy for people to get an immediate town-read on you because you can come into any game with guns blazing ready to hunt scum. Basically I'm just bitching about that fact that I suck at this game and don't understand how people can get town reads on them so easily just by playing how they always play.
Pedit - I've never played anything like this setup before, but bear with me. In regular games, I play scum more confidently. Obviously it helps that I know for sure if my reads are good or not.
In this setup, I think honestly the best course of action for someone of my level of skill is to fuck shit up during the day but always make sure there was someone scummier. Then my inevitable flee wouldn't point anything to my partner, because everybody would have expected me to flee anyway. This isn't what I would go into the game thinking, but realistically I think it's what would happen.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:54 am
by kuribo
Actually, new plan, stay with me on this because I may very well understand strategy in this setup better than anyone
vote: The Bulge
That's L-2, free town cred for the next person on his wagon, any takers?
this looks awful and defensive. Not trying to scumhunt, just tryin to post and not get voted.
Tbone what the fuck are you doing,
I hate blaming playstyle because it's such a scapegoat, but honestly this is something I have huge problems with as town and always have. I joined this game in hopes of improving my abilities (look at me improving!) and learning how to play without acting under the impression that I'm going to be mislynched no matter what (although this is usually the case...)
↑kuribo wrote:And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all
I never said you rely on meta. I meant it's easy for people to get an immediate town-read on you because you can come into any game with guns blazing ready to hunt scum. Basically I'm just bitching about that fact that I suck at this game and don't understand how people can get town reads on them so easily just by playing how they always play.
Pedit - I've never played anything like this setup before, but bear with me.
In regular games, I play scum more confidently
. Obviously it helps that I know for sure if my reads are good or not.
In this setup,
I think honestly the best course of action for someone of my level of skill is to fuck shit up during the day
but always make sure there was someone scummier. Then my inevitable flee wouldn't point anything to my partner, because everybody would have expected me to flee anyway. This isn't what I would go into the game thinking, but realistically I think it's what would happen.
This screams scum to me, first of all it sounds more like it is written from mafia point of view than town, until the last sentence, although I don't know how mafia could fuck up bad enough to basically say they are mafia, but he is acting nervous enough. If he was town he should say "In regular games I play scum confidently", the keyword is "more". He is basically saying that he is playing scum.
In the second sentence, again it doesn't sound like town,it doesn't mention that that would be the best mafia strategy. not to mention "Fucking shit up during the day" is exactly what he is doing now.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:01 am
by Metal Sonic
↑kuribo wrote:Ok sonic, you can be town. You figure out Kanye for me and I'll figure out DGB for you
i've only played 1 game with kayne before, he was scum and i was town. it was ~ a year ago, i barely remember the game. it probably doesnt make a difference if you hunted him or i hunted him. unless you have a bit of trouble figuring out because of the type of player he is, "jokey, lolposter", then i could help you with that. just disclaimer: that i have bad meta on him and i dont know kayne very well.
hunting dgb is like hunting mastin for me. i've played more games with DGB and she s a very enjoyable/memorable character so i daresay i have more confidence reading her than kayne. like mastin, there's no way you can say "Im 100% you are scum" or "100% town", but the method is there.
i really think we should work together cause i don't like this plan of splitting up, okay? although you might be able to read dgb better than i can, i can still deal with these type of players fairly well; as for kayne we're pretty much on the same ground anyway
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:03 am
by Metal Sonic
just want to remind you all that if scum lolhammers, he can probably flee + end day early, so everyone be careful with the votecounts
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:04 am
by Banakai
Metal sonic doing weird buddy shit with kuribo noted
Also bulge could mean he plays more confidently as scum than town in normal games, but it sounds awkward if he is trying to say that and, judging by how nervous he is acting I wouldn't doubt it if he just said he just scum slipped.
↑kuribo wrote:And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all
I never said you rely on meta. I meant it's easy for people to get an immediate town-read on you because you can come into any game with guns blazing ready to hunt scum. Basically I'm just bitching about that fact that I suck at this game and don't understand how people can get town reads on them so easily just by playing how they always play.
Pedit - I've never played anything like this setup before, but bear with me.
In regular games, I play scum more confidently
. Obviously it helps that I know for sure if my reads are good or not.
In this setup,
I think honestly the best course of action for someone of my level of skill is to fuck shit up during the day
but always make sure there was someone scummier. Then my inevitable flee wouldn't point anything to my partner, because everybody would have expected me to flee anyway. This isn't what I would go into the game thinking, but realistically I think it's what would happen.
This screams scum to me, first of all it sounds more like it is written from mafia point of view than town, until the last sentence, although I don't know how mafia could fuck up bad enough to basically say they are mafia, but he is acting nervous enough. If he was town he should say "In regular games I play scum confidently", the keyword is "more". He is basically saying that he is playing scum.
In the second sentence, again it doesn't sound like town,it doesn't mention that that would be the best mafia strategy. not to mention "Fucking shit up during the day" is exactly what he is doing now.
Here let me help.
1) read "I am more confident at scum than I am at town."
2) kuribo didn't ask for the best strategy. If I knew the best strategy for anything, I'd be good at this. He asked how I would do it. I answered honestly.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:07 am
by kuribo
The bribe rule was pretty obviously added because in the first fortnight, town discussed circle voting in opposition to their wincons to prevent a scum win
Publicly I supported it, privately I complained to the mod at the time.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:08 am
by Metal Sonic
i missed the first fortnight, no idea about that
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:09 am
by Metal Sonic
the thing about this game,
there is definitely a winner.
but odds are it isn't you.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:11 am
by kuribo
↑Metal Sonic wrote:i missed the first fortnight, no idea about that
I was scum with Benmage in the first one
We cross bussed heavily and we had to flee him because he decided trolling the town was the best way to win a setup where ONE ACCUSATION COSTS YOU THE GAME