Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:59 pm
VOTE: cyrus
Join, for the glory of mafiascum!
Join, for the glory of mafiascum!
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:03 pm
Over other Dave though?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:13 pm
Compare my deliberation in the last day of this game to my analysis of the Sordros wagon. I can't provide a scum sample, because I haven't rolled scum yet.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:23 pm
META FROM ONLY ONE ALIGNMENT DOESN'T WORK
IF YOU KNOW YOUR OWN META IT DOESN'T WORK
Now vote CYRUS with me
IF YOU KNOW YOUR OWN META IT DOESN'T WORK
Now vote CYRUS with me
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:23 pm
↑ FuDuzn wrote:↑ FuDuzn wrote:↑ Cyrus wrote:I have been pretty clear that Tier is my top town read, FuDunz. I haven't cast a single aspiration towards him. Unless you think a) town should let clear accusations towards them go unquestioned and b) it makes perfect sense for someone to not vote their top scum reads.
I prefer to have something I can argue against when I'm being scum read other than, "hey, you're scummy."
Maybe it is the beer talking, but I have read this post multiple times and still have no idea what you are going on about.
Ok I read this a second time, still drinking beer though, not sure what confused me the first time.
You rapid fire made two posts calling tier out for saying he doesn't like some players more than he doesn't like me, yet still votes me. It sounds exactly like you are trying to discredit his scum reads........or at least call them into question.
you want to vote cyrus, I know it.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:31 pm
Tier, remind me again why you don't want to vote other Dave?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:48 pm
V/la until Monday although I'll try to get on over the weekend.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:29 am
well, this game got quiet all of a sudden.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:44 am
Official Vote Count
davesaz
(3): FuDuzn, Whomping Willow, CyrusBRantz
(1): VysePresidentTierShift
(1): davesazVysePresident
(1): mykonianCyrus
(1): TierShiftsordros
(1): BRantzNot Voting
(1): sordrosWith 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2014-12-26 06:44:58)Prodding sordros. Note that anyone who needs two prods on Day 1 is force-replaced.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:17 am
wait, dave is still voting me?
why are you still voting me?
why are you still voting me?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:48 am
At this point I'm so confused I'm just hoping for someone other than you to town read me so I can sheep.
I can't make my town any more obvious than it already is, and everyone who scum reads that is questionable.
I can't make my town any more obvious than it already is, and everyone who scum reads that is questionable.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:03 am
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:12 am
Why would scum make that kind of post?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:15 am
I've said this before but don't remember if the game is completed or not.
Too many people on this site have trouble recognizing brutal honesty from town.
And Tier, yes I know it's self meta. Stuff it.
Too many people on this site have trouble recognizing brutal honesty from town.
And Tier, yes I know it's self meta. Stuff it.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:06 am
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:23 am
DAVE DO SHIT INSTEAD OF SELF META BULLSHIT
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:21 am
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:21 am
@Tier
What do you make of this?
What do you make of this?
↑ Whomping Willow wrote:VOTE: Dave
None of this curtailing to pressure so easily was present in the other game, and the weird waffly politiciany evasive responses are bad aswell
↑ Whomping Willow wrote:I never claimed cop. My post just had some weird formatting issues.
↑ Whomping Willow wrote:#lurking
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:22 am
I have a strong opinion about it btw.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:25 am
BTW I never really thought this was satisfactory, but had more pressing issues to attend to.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:45 am
↑ FuDuzn wrote:
Simple, you should only worry about putting someone at L-1 on day 1 if that person is your scum buddy or you know it will be a mislynch(ie you are scum and know the person is town and you are trying to white knight). My point about quick hammering is that outside of super newbie players, it isn't going to happen, a quick is almost an auto lynch for that player the next day, so you shouldn't worry about that. And I know I have been not too active here, busy at work, but I try to read up a bit when I can and there has been not much that other Dave has said that makes me think my vote isn't well placed.
Especially when he said that we must remove him from L-1 lest scum quick hammers lol.
You make a huge assumption about background knowledge on site meta. If someone had played mostly on a site with 48 hour day cycles and highest vote total lynched, that person may not be aware that quick hammerers get lynched. Nor have I seen any evidence that this is even true, in one game someone hammered without much (if any) warning, and was not scum read for it at all. So from observed results, scum can hammer "quickly" and get away with it.
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:55 am
↑ BRantz wrote:
@Cyrus/Vyse: So I was waiting for Willow to get back before commenting on the wagon, and now get home from work to find two more pages (which is a hell of a lot faster than anything progressed in the newbie game I just finished, which I like). I wanted to see what Willow had to say about the wagon/speculation around his first post because it influences what people are doing on the wagon. So here are my reads on all of that.
Willow's response was essentially a non-response. Did you get anything from that?
Sordros: I don't find his initial reactions scummy, I like that he is trying to create dialogue, and gain information. But after failing to do that I find it kind of strange how he just sort of completely changes tactics and says he is okay with all of it. It seems very strange, but I don't know that it is scummy. Nullish leaning town for now.
And faded away. Updated thoughts?
mykonian: He was on the wagon, while actually apparently trying to distract from it by engaging dave about completely irrelevant things, and seems to have no interest in scum hunting at all. Seems fairly scummy so far to me.
I typically find the use of irrelevant things to be very scummy
Tier: I like Tier for actually trying to push the game, get people talking, and get more information out in the open. That being said, I'm not sure I believe that the whole thing was a reaction test for him. I like the pressure he put on dave, but am uncertain about the immediate unvote afterward. Null for now.
Do you see a difference between how Tier's unvote and mine were treated?
Willow: This play is pretty much in line with how he played as town in the newbie game I was just in with him, so I like that. He can be town for now.
See above question. I don't remember Willow fading at all in the newbie game. Would this prompt an update from you?
Dave: Also is playing a lot like he did as town in the newbie we were just in, but he didn't bend to people pressuring him in that game like he just did to Tier. Mildly scummy for now.
I never saw a reasonable explanation of how it was bending to pressure at all. If you subtract thoughts about the pressure and look strictly at the deliberative posting style, what do you get?
Vyse: Vyse seems town so far, but his play is similar to the newbie game where he was scum, and I was town reading him most of the way there until he defended his scum buddy until she died. Mild town read for now.
Vyse has since come under attack. What are your thoughts on that?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:02 pm
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:28 pm
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:35 pm
Calling yourself obv town and calling those that are scum reading you as obv scum will not make me think you are town.
Also not quick hammering IS basically site wide meta outside of newbie games, many players policy lynch the next day if it does happen.