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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:15 am
by acryon
↑ Nero Cain wrote:an infinitive shot vig is p cool and yes, it will have seeable results but no way are we vigging each night. An investigation we WILL be using each night and therefore I think its the best one to have early. And honestly? Its not like we don't get to buy again so we can buy a potential vig if we want tomorrow. This whole "we have to buy it TODAY!" seems quite silly. Between ABR and elusive I can't tell if they are trigger happy town or scum that wants a vig to help them. Even if they don't control the vig it produces dead bodies and that's what scum need. dead bodies. But I actually like a few things that elusive has said so ABR is our d1 lynch you guys.
vote:ABR
Why did you leave me out of this? I've been pushing for vig since page 1.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:15 am
by killerjester
I've been intentionally avoiding questions regarding setup speculation. In general the balance of information is critical to the dynamic aspect of Mafiacraft, some players will have more than others. However, this informational divide is not intended to hurt a players chances of playing their own role effectively. As a rule, if you have a question about how your specific role interacts with certain mechanics in the game you should bold your question in-thread or PM me directly. You're still welcome to form theories about the other classes/races/alignments as you wish, but I can't give definitive answers one way or the other - these things will become clear with time.
Also a big shoutout to the manager of our R&D team, ika. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes to make Mafiacraft run smoothly so we're lucky to have his talent and support.
-killerjester
Lead Developer
Patch 1.1.2 Vote Count
ABR (3):
House,
Ozgin
, Nero Cain
House (2):
acryon, ABR
Nero Cain (1):
elusive
eyestott (1):
GGG
Not Voting (6):
TheFuzzylogic99, Xombie, bankaikiller, TroubledTownie, eyestott, kiwieagle
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Tier 1 (8):
House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie,
Ozgin
, eyestott, TheFuzzylogic99, GGG, bankaikiller
Tier 3 (3):
ABR, acryon, Xombie
Tier 2 (1):
kiwieagle
Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:15 am
by acryon
↑ elusive wrote:Oh a fun question for all players, town. Scum don't have to answer if they don't want to but I'd love town to respond:
If you could vigilante kill anyone in the game right now, who would you day murder and why?
No one should answer this. I think it gives way too much information to scum.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:17 am
by acryon
↑ killerjester wrote:I've been intentionally avoiding questions regarding setup speculation. In general the balance of information is critical to the dynamic aspect of Mafiacraft, some players will have more than others. However, this informational divide is not intended to hurt a players chances of playing their own role effectively. As a rule, if you have a question about how your specific role interacts with certain mechanics in the game you should bold your question in-thread or PM me directly. You're still welcome to form theories about the other classes/races/alignments as you wish, but I can't give definitive answers one way or the other - these things will become clear with time.
Also a big shoutout to the manager of our R&D team, ika. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes to make Mafiacraft run smoothly so we're lucky to have his talent and support.
-killerjester
Lead Developer
Patch 1.1.2 Vote Count
ABR (3):
House,
Ozgin
, Nero Cain
House (2):
acryon, ABR
Nero Cain (1):
elusive
eyestott (1):
GGG
Not Voting (6):
TheFuzzylogic99, Xombie, bankaikiller, TroubledTownie, eyestott, kiwieagle
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Tier 1 (8):
House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie,
Ozgin
, eyestott, TheFuzzylogic99, GGG, bankaikiller
Tier 3 (3):
ABR, acryon, Xombie
Tier 2 (1):
kiwieagle
Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).
Why is Ozgin orange?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:20 am
by elusive
↑ acryon wrote: ↑ elusive wrote:Oh a fun question for all players, town. Scum don't have to answer if they don't want to but I'd love town to respond:
If you could vigilante kill anyone in the game right now, who would you day murder and why?
No one should answer this. I think it gives way too much information to scum.
What? Why?
To me it tells who people read as their top scum suspect right now?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:20 am
by elusive
And people not answering are scummy?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:21 am
by acryon
↑ elusive wrote: ↑ acryon wrote: ↑ elusive wrote:Oh a fun question for all players, town. Scum don't have to answer if they don't want to but I'd love town to respond:
If you could vigilante kill anyone in the game right now, who would you day murder and why?
No one should answer this. I think it gives way too much information to scum.
What? Why?
To me it tells who people read as their top scum suspect right now?
There's a reason everyone isn't just constantly posting reads lists. There is a place to give a reads list, but especially this early in the game, some information needs to stay close to the chest.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:21 am
by acryon
↑ elusive wrote:And people not answering are scummy?
Well that's just silly. Obviously everyone would just answer. Why would scum
not
answer there?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:21 am
by elusive
Oh, I know what you mean but if everyone answers it then that sort of precludes that possible thing?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:21 am
by Nero Cain
↑ acryon wrote: ↑ Nero Cain wrote:an infinitive shot vig is p cool and yes, it will have seeable results but no way are we vigging each night. An investigation we WILL be using each night and therefore I think its the best one to have early. And honestly? Its not like we don't get to buy again so we can buy a potential vig if we want tomorrow. This whole "we have to buy it TODAY!" seems quite silly. Between ABR and elusive I can't tell if they are trigger happy town or scum that wants a vig to help them. Even if they don't control the vig it produces dead bodies and that's what scum need. dead bodies. But I actually like a few things that elusive has said so ABR is our d1 lynch you guys.
vote:ABR
Why did you leave me out of this? I've been pushing for vig since page 1.
Honestly? I forgot you but ABR is still scum me thinks.
↑ acryon wrote:No one should answer this. I think it gives way too much information to scum.
Do you think she is asking this as town or scum. I'd also kill ABR or acron
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:23 am
by Nero Cain
↑ acryon wrote:but especially this early in the game, some information needs to stay close to the chest.
by that same logic no one should vote.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:23 am
by acryon
↑ Nero Cain wrote: ↑ acryon wrote:No one should answer this. I think it gives way too much information to scum.
Do you think she is asking this as town or scum. I'd also kill ABR or acron
I think she is probably asking as town, but that doesn't mean it has to be right.
I think people should push who they want to push at this point in the game, but I don't think I like the idea of everyone just throwing out who they would lynch right now. I think it would do more harm than good at this point, especially due to how undeveloped most of the players' reads would be.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:24 am
by acryon
↑ Nero Cain wrote: ↑ acryon wrote:but especially this early in the game, some information needs to stay close to the chest.
by that same logic no one should vote.
I said
some
, not all. And there is more significance in the building of a wagon with votes. We can determine things from that. Everyone just saying who their biggest suspect is doesn't tell us much at all at this point in the game. It
does
give scum information to work off of.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:25 am
by Nero Cain
everyone would vig their top scumspect....its not really giving anything away.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:26 am
by acryon
↑ Nero Cain wrote:everyone would vig their top scumspect....its not really giving anything away.
No one is arguing that. But again, there is a difference between votes building up and everyone just saying who their top scumspect is. How does it benefit town at all? I can tell you how it benefits scum.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:48 am
by Albert B. Rampage
We're going to get an investigative role and they will get NK'd night 1. At least with a vig shot they get a chance at killing scum before they croak.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:56 am
by Nero Cain
how would scum know who gets the investigation role?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:02 am
by bankaikiller
Probably Albert for forcing this "tier 3 must buy now" crap. Did it ever accrue to you that maybe, one of our racial roles, can scum kill
I don't think it's intirely out of the question if you have a faction power that you stated, that you considered better then a tier 1 tracker, then again... If certain factional abilities are indeed better then tier 1 abilities perhaps we should get higher abilities , like a doctor to protect racial roles ecspecially.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:04 am
by acryon
↑ bankaikiller wrote:Did it ever accrue to you that maybe, one of our racial roles, can scum kill
The fact that anyone could choose their own race meaning there could be multiples makes me think this is almost definitely not the case.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:09 am
by bankaikiller
Well, if Albert is confirmed supper tracker, whatever, then maybe we just don't have kill roles, and only non killing ones, I we as probably delving too much into the actual class specifics. Like a priest heals, warrior fights or w.e
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:10 am
by bankaikiller
I just know my racial ability sucks, and has nothing to do with what it would actually do in wow
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:14 am
by acryon
↑ bankaikiller wrote:Well, if Albert is confirmed supper tracker, whatever, then maybe we just don't have kill roles, and only non killing ones, I we as probably delving too much into the actual class specifics. Like a priest heals, warrior fights or w.e
Are you a troll?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:23 am
by bankaikiller
No I'm not a troll. I just mis read his tracker post HARD I though he was talking about his role specifically, my bad lol.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:25 am
by acryon
↑ bankaikiller wrote:No I'm not a troll. I just mis read his tracker post HARD I though he was talking about his role specifically, my bad lol.
Well I looked at your other game you died in and I'm hoping we don't get the same treatment here.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:26 am
by bankaikiller
Btw... My ability can tell me who are the same race as me, if when they activate their power. that's my only hint I'll give, it's actually quite useful, but probably nowhere near as useful as the rest of the classes