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↑ copper223 wrote:That's hilarious on so many levels Tier:

- I am bold as fuck when I play scum.

- One of the reasons why Sthar8 townread me in the game we just played together was me being conciliatory for the sake of information gathering.

- I just finished butting heads with Ceph.

Are you bored with this game and scum claiming?

Uh, take it easy. Why do you feel the need to reference self-meta at the notion of being attacked?

The butting heads with ceph was safe AS FUCK

It was on theory ffs

our previous roles were claimed by Who earlier in this game. Page 5 I think? I CBA'd to find and quote it, but he wasn't lying.

ffs learn to play (assuming my prior townread of you is correct, otherwise this is more a reminder for myself not to rely on my early game reads too much when contrary evidence is presented)... I was happy with: Tier is probably town because he is relating true and valuable information about Cabd and I had the same read on Ceph. that despite the posting which I did not fully agree with he is probably town here, I was also thinking I may have been a bit harsh with Ceph. cause working in a cutthroat environment I am used to cutting people off at the knees as soon as they try to muscle in, then I have to read this from you, pretty off-putting.

I am reinforcing nothing, that just underscores how bad that read is and you should know better by now.

↑ Cephrir wrote:

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:It's early D1.

This is what I wanted you to say all along. I'm fine with you suspecting him, but didn't believe in the level of certainty you had.

Do you think every person who does something early on D1 should post a disclaimer saying NOTE THIS IS EARLY D1 PLEASE TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT?

↑ copper223 wrote:

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:What's the pro-town benefit of setup speculation discussion? It's not even current setup spec -- it's setup spec from a completely unrelated game. It is not productive, it's anti-productive. It's a distraction. I don't particularly give a shit about meta or anything, so that piece of the argument falls flat for me. For me, analyzing that within the context of this game alone, it's sketchy.

At least you can admit your bias.

You don't know if there is a correlation between the roles of the prior setup and the new ones, from the roles you all said you received I suspect there is one so the discussion is not useless, there are other ways where discussion of past roles can be useful as well.

I could make the same argument for RVS you just mad for Cabd proposing that discussion, it's not productive because all of us here know how it goes, it's anti-productive, it's a distraction, it's scum indicative that you RVS voted ... (if you space the logical jumps from A to D by putting in B and C to make it look reasonable it still is absurd when you connect the dots).

I do think it's possible you are strirring things up as town and some pressure on Cabd is fine by me.

If a complete reroll of the game means "oh yeah btw we're using the same roles and shit" then the mods fucked up and I quit

↑ TierShift wrote:

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:
"Obviously no intent"? How is it obvious? He brought up setup speculation about a completely unrelated game that has no actual impact or anything on this game and asked for EVERY PLAYER IN THE GAME to engage in said useless bullshit setup speculation. How is that "obviously" not engaging?

Bringing that up dictates the course of the early phase of this game and that course is shitty and not productive and bullshit. It's scummy enough,

especially so early on D1

, to warrant a push.

Your defense of him is really cute though

I know cabd as a very thorough player. Wanting to understand the previous setup suits him. He wasn't doing it in a way to avoid commenting, he was just doing first things first. I've seen scumhim lurk and not contribute, but it's too early to tell if that is what he's doing,

especially so early on D1

.

"dont try to make plays or apply pressure on d1 bc it's d1"

ok

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:

↑ Cephrir wrote:

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:It's early D1.

This is what I wanted you to say all along. I'm fine with you suspecting him, but didn't believe in the level of certainty you had.

Do you think every person who does something early on D1 should post a disclaimer saying NOTE THIS IS EARLY D1 PLEASE TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT?

Not precisely. But clearly this is a philosophical difference, and as such I don't care about it anymore.

Regarding the numbers: I did see they don't quite work, but I do think there is a correlation.

I'm not sure about this, but Mala is pretty insistent.

Notscience, could you speak to why you were somewhat demotivated going into this game?

You may decline to answer.

↑ TierShift wrote:

↑ copper223 wrote:That's hilarious on so many levels Tier:

- I am bold as fuck when I play scum.

- One of the reasons why Sthar8 townread me in the game we just played together was me being conciliatory for the sake of information gathering.

- I just finished butting heads with Ceph.

Are you bored with this game and scum claiming?

Uh, take it easy. Why do you feel the need to reference self-meta at the notion of being attacked?

Self-meta defense alert!

I really don't care about self-meta tells.

Copper is very good scum FYI and I can back up that assertion if necessary. In hindsight, I see differences in the two games I've played with him, and I feel good about my ability to eventually read him.

It's not so much a tell, it's that he broke out the tried and true defense after one vote in this early part of the game.

↑ TierShift wrote:Uh, take it easy. Why do you feel the need to reference self-meta at the notion of being attacked?

Being abrasive isn't going to make this go away, copper.

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:"dont try to make BS plays or apply pressure for BS on d1 bc it's d1"

ok

Ftfy

↑ Cephrir wrote:I really don't care about self-meta tells.

Copper is very good scum FYI and I can back up that assertion if necessary. In hindsight, I see differences in the two games I've played with him, and I feel good about my ability to eventually read him.

What is your current read on copper?

↑ TierShift wrote:

↑ Cephrir wrote:I really don't care about self-meta tells.

Copper is very good scum FYI and I can back up that assertion if necessary. In hindsight, I see differences in the two games I've played with him, and I feel good about my ability to eventually read him.

What is your current read on copper?

Ambivalent for now, but call me when he starts walling.

just gonna not interact with TierShift for the remainder of the game

↑ Cephrir wrote:

↑ TierShift wrote:

↑ Cephrir wrote:I really don't care about self-meta tells.

Copper is very good scum FYI and I can back up that assertion if necessary. In hindsight, I see differences in the two games I've played with him, and I feel good about my ability to eventually read him.

What is your current read on copper?

Ambivalent for now, but call me when he starts walling.

Because you can read him when he does or because he's scum if he does?

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:just gonna not interact with TierShift for the remainder of the game

Yeah cool

↑ notscience wrote:btw last game I was just a

n

ormal,

o

rdinary

t

ownie

I was a roleblocker who, if roleblocked, killed both myself and my roleblocker.

That seems pretty strange given there wasn't any other roleblocker claim.

↑ Cephrir wrote:notscience, any commentary relevant to the actual game events?

Copper looks town

I think someone lied about hteir prior role which would probably make cabd town

I think LLD looks like scum

More elaboration on this after I get some food in me, I'm not exactly lucid

↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:our previous roles were claimed by Who earlier in this game. Page 5 I think? I CBA'd to find and quote it, but he wasn't lying.

This bugs me because why does scum need 2 investigative roles and a bulletproof?

↑ Iecerint wrote:I'm not sure about this, but Mala is pretty insistent.

Notscience, could you speak to why you were somewhat demotivated going into this game?

You may decline to answer.

Yes, I will answer, but my only answer will be yes.

Rather if you had to phrase it like that you already know the answer that you seek

↑ TierShift wrote:Because you can read him when he does or because he's scum if he does?

The former, he's definitely going to wall eventually

I doubt the scum from last game are colluding now to lie about their past roles unless all of them are scum again so like

nah

Then someone who was town last game lied? Or maybe it was a red herring.