A random vote is a reason? I explained the hiding behind role playing, I still think that is valid for possible scumminess. Kramer's joining in on suspicion of me and roleplaying seemed scummy - like going with the crowd seems scummy. Seriously, this is why you've been so militant against me? You're ruining this game with this stupid crusade of yours which is based on nothing.Sarc wrote:Off the Mark is scum. He random-voted QuickBen and then accused me of "hiding behind role-playing nonsense" when I random-voted him. Now he's switching his vote to kr4mer for pretty much no reason. Why is it the scummiest thing we have to go on, Off the Mark? Explain how on earth making theme-related jokes is scummy. I've been doing it all game, so am I not scummier than kr4mer?
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Is this your case against me? I hope not, because this is really pitiful:
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This post is fishy. Throwing out the ideas of weird roles when the rules and roles have been clearly defined... trying to add confusion to the game. Fishy.tyhess wrote:I'm trying to figure out if theres some role sarcastro could have that would let him wins if he's lynched, but I can't find anything on the rule page, so I doubt it....
Well no, in that post he doesnt just state you random voted. Correction, He's ruining the game for you as you are the one he finds scummy. Theres multiple solutions to that... can you work them out?Off the Mark wrote:Is this your case against me? I hope not, because this is really pitiful:
A random vote is a reason? I explained the hiding behind role playing, I still think that is valid for possible scumminess. Kramer's joining in on suspicion of me and roleplaying seemed scummy - like going with the crowd seems scummy. Seriously, this is why you've been so militant against me? You're ruining this game with this stupid crusade of yours which is based on nothing.Sarc wrote:Off the Mark is scum. He random-voted QuickBen and then accused me of "hiding behind role-playing nonsense" when I random-voted him. Now he's switching his vote to kr4mer for pretty much no reason. Why is it the scummiest thing we have to go on, Off the Mark? Explain how on earth making theme-related jokes is scummy. I've been doing it all game, so am I not scummier than kr4mer?
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Okay. To be honest, there isn't much to comment on in this game... About OTM:
There is nothing else of note about OTM.
Sarc has been militant (in character? Or just Sarc?) but apart from the eagerness early day 2, it hasn't been unjustified. Tyhess went through a period of temporary insanity and OTM has never redeemed himself. Tyhess has been acting bizarrely, and MissMoo/aioqwe/Porochaz/myself haven't been involved in the cross-fire as much (meaning harder to get a read on them).
Given the slowness of the day and the fact that I convinced myself that OTM has a good chance of being scum, I feel inclined to drop the hammer. I'll wait until other people (preferably OTM) comment/defend/attack though.
andAny reasons, Sarcastro? Or are you going to continue hiding behind role-playing nonsense?
are both kind of scummy in my opinion... First of all, Sarc's first vote was clearly not serious to the extent that it deserved an explanation, so the first post is bizarre. Secondly, the in-character thing was so obviously entertainment. Your votes seemed pretty serious to me. You should have voted Sarc, whom you found scummy originally.I'm voting for Kramer for latching on to Sarcastro's roleplaying style and hopping on my bandwagon for no reason whatsoever. It's not much, but it's the scummiest thing we have to go on so far.
Your vote-hopping is a bit much. This post, because it came right after your vote for Sarc, seemed to me to be an attempt to lay low, or avoid having to commit to anything. You seem to be working for the low profile that scum would obviously have, according to you.Actually, thinking a little more about this... the remaining scum is all alone, so he's probably going to try to keep a low profile. Therefore it is unlikely to be Sarcastro.
lol. This is clearly wrong.I think you're the one with reading comprehension issues here. I didn't vote for you because you random voted me. You never even said you random voted me. You acted like you had valid reasons all along.
I don't like this at all.Who died and made you boss? What in holy hell does that order matter? I am heavily leaning towards voting for you unless you have a reasonable explanation.
What I like about this is that you have attacked Sarc and QuickBen since your last vote (on Sarc), but haven't really mentioned kr4mer and offer no explanation for this.vote: kr4mer
There is nothing else of note about OTM.
Sarc has been militant (in character? Or just Sarc?) but apart from the eagerness early day 2, it hasn't been unjustified. Tyhess went through a period of temporary insanity and OTM has never redeemed himself. Tyhess has been acting bizarrely, and MissMoo/aioqwe/Porochaz/myself haven't been involved in the cross-fire as much (meaning harder to get a read on them).
Given the slowness of the day and the fact that I convinced myself that OTM has a good chance of being scum, I feel inclined to drop the hammer. I'll wait until other people (preferably OTM) comment/defend/attack though.
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Aegor, you seem to read Sarc's posts with the roleplaying style and automatically assume that everything said within is a joke. I don't read it that way and I don't think Sarc intended it to be read that way.
He voted for me and he asked for others to vote for me without providing any reasons. So I asked him if he has any reasons, so we would have
He voted for me and he asked for others to vote for me without providing any reasons. So I asked him if he has any reasons, so we would have
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I don't want to speak for Aegor, but I think I can safely say that he didn't think everything I've said is a "joke".
OtM, stop mischaracterising me. I
What happened to not wasting effort on this game?
OtM, stop mischaracterising me. I
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provide reasons for voting for you. Please stop saying that I didn't. It's simply not true. If you want to argue against my reasons or that my reasons are insufficient, fine, do so. But stop acting like I'm some crazy person who's randomly selected you to go after and mind-controlled other people into agreeing with me. I have reasons. I have told you most of the reasons. I continue to gain more reasons every time you desperately try to act like I'm crazy and evil.What happened to not wasting effort on this game?
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You hadn't responded to any of his posts before he started speaking in character. What reason could you possibly have had for voting you? None. It was clearly a joke. I still don't see what could possibly compel you to believe that it was anything other than that.Aegor, you seem to read Sarc's posts with the roleplaying style and automatically assume that everything said within is a joke. I don't read it that way and I don't think Sarc intended it to be read that way.
In addition, he convinced others to vote for you
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Hey folks! I enjoy replacing into games, especially when almost half the players are dead before page 8. Less pressure on me, ya know?
The way I've seen it so far, there's this battle between OTM and Sarc. I've seen the way they play. It doesn't surprise me that Sarc is being aggressive, and I'm not surprised that OTM is on the defense again. It must be his play style.
For the most part, qiwi, chaz, and aegor seem to have taken Sarc's side. Tyhess and MissMoo were on OTM's side. I've replaced MissMoo and agree that I can't see the case against OTM.
Now, Sarc and OTM are the most prolific players. Even though OTM said he wasn't going to waste any more time on this game, he will because it's not over yet. I think Sarc is too narrow-minded, though. I'll review his posts, but I don't think he has any concrete evidence against OTM, and likewise vice-versa. I don't want to kill Tyhess either. I find his defense of OTM when nobody else would interesting. I feel that Akiwi hasn't been very useful though. She's just been going with the flow and bandwagoning OTM, but distinctly on a lighter scale, so that she can't be called on it.
For now,
The way I've seen it so far, there's this battle between OTM and Sarc. I've seen the way they play. It doesn't surprise me that Sarc is being aggressive, and I'm not surprised that OTM is on the defense again. It must be his play style.
For the most part, qiwi, chaz, and aegor seem to have taken Sarc's side. Tyhess and MissMoo were on OTM's side. I've replaced MissMoo and agree that I can't see the case against OTM.
Now, Sarc and OTM are the most prolific players. Even though OTM said he wasn't going to waste any more time on this game, he will because it's not over yet. I think Sarc is too narrow-minded, though. I'll review his posts, but I don't think he has any concrete evidence against OTM, and likewise vice-versa. I don't want to kill Tyhess either. I find his defense of OTM when nobody else would interesting. I feel that Akiwi hasn't been very useful though. She's just been going with the flow and bandwagoning OTM, but distinctly on a lighter scale, so that she can't be called on it.
For now,
unvote, vote Aioqwe
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Ah, the deadline is tomorrow, and I'll likely be gone. I don't think I can shift enough support onto Aikiwi's lynch, but I don't think we should lynch OTM. That is why I am going to
I didn't really want to do this cuz Sarc is a cool guy, but between him and OTM I prefer he die. And according to the rules, he will be lynched unless somebody unvotes him or votes OTM before the deadline.
unvote, vote: Sarcastro
I didn't really want to do this cuz Sarc is a cool guy, but between him and OTM I prefer he die. And according to the rules, he will be lynched unless somebody unvotes him or votes OTM before the deadline.
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You've been going after OTM ever since this post, Sarc. While congratulating a pro-town role on a successful night action is a scum tell, that's about all I've seen for reasons to vote OTM. Everything else I've seen since then that you've considered scummy I feel is just his playstyle.OTM wrote:Wow that was incredibly lucky sensfan. Kudos to you, but I can't believe you would choose to suicude bomb on night 1. LOL, what an insane beginning. Glork's probably ticked that this game is kinda frigged up now.
OK, should be pretty easy for the town to win at this point. Let's start the lynch mobs.
vote: QuickBen
Now mind you, I really don't want to lynch either of you. I have a feeling that you are both town. But the fact that you haven't looked into considering anybody else to be scum, combined with the fact that you hammahed QuickBen without giving your suspicions on him (modified quotes don't count) place you higher on my suspicions list than OTM.
And my appologies, aioqwe. I just made the connection that Aioqwe = A Kiwi = A cute small bird = Female
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Really? Never heard that one before. Is that in the wiki? I refuse to read the wiki, as I believe its existence hurts the game. The last thing mafia needs is a reference list of universal scumtells. It changes the game too much - especially for newbs. I haven't read it and I don't plan to.mbf wrote:While congratulating a pro-town role on a successful night action is a scum tell
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MBF, hammering QuickBen is clearly not a scumtell. And I have looked at other people. I find Tyhess rather scummy. Should we lynch Tyhess instead? I'd be fine with that. Normally I might not even mind being lynched, since I have confidence that
eventually
you guys will realise that OtM is scum, but given the mechanics, I'd really rather not win the game for the town and yet lose myself.[color=darkblue]If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.[/color]