In post 170, Impoetic wrote:Let me rephrase: this is antitown because I am town risking letting people pile on a vote 7 pages in that most likely wouldn't flip scum, and then getting fosed for it, leading to potentially burning out multiple MLs due to my incompetence if it had happened.
If I were mafia, I'd be risking trading myself for a quicklynch d1, the day I imagine it's
least
suboptimal to quicklynch because flips help town and i heard scum rarely gets lynched d1 in forum mafia anyway. What's the scum thought process in doing that intentionally?
I can only imagine your argument is that I don't care who is lynched therefore I'm scum, but to that I'd point out that scum's first goal in the game -- or one of them, anyway -- is to look like they care who is lynched.
This feels contrived and feels like really bad WIFOM.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:20 pm
by JaeReed
Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.
Nooooo my pagetop!
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:20 pm
by drealmerz7
bricked
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:20 pm
by Kohai
Sorry mod!
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:23 pm
by Impoetic
In post 173, Sesq wrote:the "i heard scum rarely gets lynched d1 in forum mafia" line feels really off. You coming in and voting someone to L-2 without explanation, and then unvoting the second someone puts their fos on you, and then poorly defending yourself all feels very off. You stating what scum's goals are feels EXTREMELY off. Your prior post did have some good points, but you're still looking more suspicious than rb.
VOTE: Impoetic
Pedit: A lot of rb's wagon was jokevote/rvs shit, and I know I'd feel uncomfortable with a lynching under that. Don't think rb cares at all though.
Pedit2: Also, "impede the game"? What impeding has he done, other than questioning other people? He's my only townread so far.
i unvoted because my vote WAS a joke
read the post above it. They were talking about naked voting, so i naked voted. it seemed funny to me at the time
I defend myself when i get fosed. I'm impatient, and i'm not going to wait until people just naturally TR me for them to unvote if i think i can defend myself (as in, I said what came to mind, and i'm sure some of it was off, but so was the idea that what I did made me mafia)
I stated why scum's mindset wouldn't line up with what Kohai said was scummy. How is that off? Is town supposed to be incapable of trying to figure out what mafia is likely to be thinking at a certain point?
if you think somenoe is scummy, vote for them, if they get to L-2, they get to L-2, if then someone wants to take them to L-1, then they take them to L-1, and we watch and judge and take notes and then we wait for a claim, or for people who don't want their vote there anymore to go off, if a claim comes, we go from there
if a hammer comes before a claim, it's a policy lynch the next day, we found scum, the wagon was valuable, yes we lost a townie, but, that is how the game goes...no reason to put that to a stop as far as I see...hammer without a claim IS scum, simple as that...
why tell scum to not do something that will out them as scum?
I'm just being aware and cautious, not trying to delay the game. I don't see the case for rb other than the bad votes so I asked to see if anyone could give me a reason to join the wagon. Would you say those who haven't answered my question are impeding the game by not being informative? I don't think you would.
And was the bolded a scum slip? I never said I was scum reading Impoetic and I never told her to not do what she just did.
VOTE: Drealm
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:24 pm
by drealmerz7
voting to kill someone is no joke
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:27 pm
by drealmerz7
In post 180, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
And was the bolded a scum slip? I never said I was scum reading Impoetic and I never told her to not do what she just did.
ohman, SRing even harder now
you did exactly that, said "nono, don't do that!" oof, I never said it was directed at impoetic even, it was a general stance you took
In post 170, Impoetic wrote:Let me rephrase: this is antitown because I am town risking letting people pile on a vote 7 pages in that most likely wouldn't flip scum, and then getting fosed for it, leading to potentially burning out multiple MLs due to my incompetence if it had happened.
If I were mafia, I'd be risking trading myself for a quicklynch d1, the day I imagine it's
least
suboptimal to quicklynch because flips help town and i heard scum rarely gets lynched d1 in forum mafia anyway. What's the scum thought process in doing that intentionally?
I can only imagine your argument is that I don't care who is lynched therefore I'm scum, but to that I'd point out that scum's first goal in the game -- or one of them, anyway -- is to look like they care who is lynched.
This feels contrived and feels like really bad WIFOM.
Thanks, it's bad wifom because it's not wifom
If it were contrived i'd be trying harder to make it clear and easy-to-follow rather than jumbled like it probably was (haven't read it, so idk). I'm trying to explain to you why a joke vote isn't scummy, even if it is out of place, which I don't feel it was, this being page 5.
You haven't answered me. Why do you think i did it as scum?
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:28 pm
by drealmerz7
impoetic - would you agree it was very anti-town to cast a vote that you didn't believe in at this stage in the game?
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:28 pm
by Kohai
I'm getting off work in 5 hours. I'll make my cases then. For now, FOS on:
1. Impoetic
2. Dreal
3. RB
I'm fairly confident at least one of these is scum. I will further make my case when I get off.
In post 180, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
And was the bolded a scum slip? I never said I was scum reading Impoetic and I never told her to not do what she just did.
ohman, SRing even harder now
you did exactly that, said "nono, don't do that!" oof, I never said it was directed at impoetic even, it was a general stance you took
anyway...I'm tired
hard SR here
Thing is I never took that stance, reread. Stop misrepresenting.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:30 pm
by Kohai
Impoetic Is literally saying that she wouldn't do X as scum because it is obv anti town, yet she does X anyway; therefore she isn't scum. Yeah, I'm fairly convinced Impoetic is scum.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:31 pm
by drealmerz7
so you're the type of person to go up to a stranger, punch them in the face, and think it's funny / walk away laughing?
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:32 pm
by drealmerz7
In post 187, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Thing is I never took that stance, reread. Stop misrepresenting.
okay so you're okay if the wagon were to build to L-2, L-1, claim, + lynch in the next hour?
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:33 pm
by Impoetic
In post 184, drealmerz7 wrote:impoetic - would you agree it was very anti-town to cast a vote that you didn't believe in at this stage in the game?
i said it was somewhat antitown
i didn't think it was that bad, no. i might be underestimating the likelihood of 2 votes piling on while i'm catching up; i was going to unvote soon no matter what, and i didn't think it hurt anything. I was honestly hoping the rb or TTTTT would be there to react, but they weren't
*mumbling* i bet
they
wouldn't have pushed me over it
predit: no, that's not what i'm literally saying
i'm explaining why it's not scummy and was trying to explain that if i WERE scum, it wouldn't be antitown, because if he really got lynched, i'd be next, and a 1v1 trade isn't worth it
nice one-liners and strawmen, can you please answer my question and actually address me instead of talking to everyone else
In post 187, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Thing is I never took that stance, reread. Stop misrepresenting.
okay so you're okay if the wagon were to build to L-2, L-1, claim, + lynch in the next hour?
If intent was declared and everyone had a chance to discuss the claim, sure. I'm not quite understanding what this has to do with you misrepresentation of recent events though.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:34 pm
by Impoetic
In post 189, drealmerz7 wrote:so you're the type of person to go up to a stranger, punch them in the face, and think it's funny / walk away laughing?
in a video game? Yeah
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:35 pm
by rb
drealmerz ur such a serious person wow
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:38 pm
by rb
how the fuck did my wagon evaporate? scummiest wagon ive ever fucking seen tbh
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:38 pm
by rb
TTTT is probably town for staying on it actually
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:39 pm
by rb
UNVOTE: TTTT
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:39 pm
by rb
we should kill one of the people who got on and then off the wagon
