Midsummer Night's Revelry - [Game Over]

Firebringer · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:25 am

Maria, let's not do a kill, okay?

Firebringer · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:25 am

Woops wrong thread.

hebichan · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:26 am

In post 172, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 171, hebichan wrote:5 people die, we go straight to intermission, a pair gets killed, we go to dance with 10 people.
Okay, I can offer to not pair.
But what benefit do we have going into a dance with 10?

It's not about dance with 10 but the fact that the mafia have to kill before a single dance, it puts them in an awkward position.

Also, this will get mafia to panic, and hopefully make bad pairings for them, as they try to pair off quickly.

Cabd · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:26 am

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:26 am

In post 174, Firebringer wrote:Lol what if scum no kills?

They only get one kill in the entire game. If they don't kill that's our benefit.

Firebringer · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:28 am

In post 179, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 174, Firebringer wrote:Lol what if scum no kills?
They only get one kill in the entire game. If they don't kill that's our benefit.

Not really.

I've seen no kills screw with game so bad it broke up the town and scum used chaos to win.
From pure numbers ur right, that should benefit town.
In practice, meh.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:31 am

In post 180, Firebringer wrote:
In post 179, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 174, Firebringer wrote:Lol what if scum no kills?
They only get one kill in the entire game. If they don't kill that's our benefit.
Not really.

I've seen no kills screw with game so bad it broke up the town and scum used chaos to win.
From pure numbers ur right, that should benefit town.
In practice, meh.

Ok but.... if we do scorched earth, the kill happens IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PRE-DANCE.

Which minimizes any Wifom effects of a kill/nokill scenario.

Firebringer · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:32 am

In post 181, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 180, Firebringer wrote:
In post 179, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 174, Firebringer wrote:Lol what if scum no kills?
They only get one kill in the entire game. If they don't kill that's our benefit.
Not really.

I've seen no kills screw with game so bad it broke up the town and scum used chaos to win.
From pure numbers ur right, that should benefit town.
In practice, meh.
Ok but.... if we do scorched earth, the kill happens IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PRE-DANCE.

Which minimizes any Wifom effects of a kill/nokill scenario.

It also minimizes any benefit from scorching earth as far as associations too though.

The kill has less power, a no kill probably would be more powerful at that point since we have less info to work with.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:34 am

That's just strictly wrong in a nightless lovers game. Like... 100% strictly wrong.

Mint Berry Crunch · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:37 am

In post 177, hebichan wrote:It's not about dance with 10 but the fact that the mafia have to kill before a single dance, it puts them in an awkward position.

Also, this will get mafia to panic, and hopefully make bad pairings for them, as they try to pair off quickly.

Okay I can not accept offers if this is a plan we are doing.

Firebringer · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:38 am

I don't care for min/max strategy for town.

If I was scum, I would no kill almost 80% of time because it feeds paranoia into any possible strong town pairs.
It would also amuse me, and 90% of why I play is for amusement 10% is for puzzle

Mint Berry Crunch · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:40 am

In post 185, Firebringer wrote:I don't care for min/max strategy for town.

If I was scum, I would no kill almost 80% of time because it feeds paranoia into any possible strong town pairs.
It would also amuse me, and 90% of why I play is for amusement 10% is for puzzle

That's great and all, but saying what you would personally do as scum won't help town.

Firebringer · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:40 am

In post 183, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That's just strictly wrong in a nightless lovers game. Like... 100% strictly wrong.

I think I have played about as much nightless lovers as you, not sure, but I think ur point has merit but it's dependent on lots of stuff happening that I don't think generally happen early game.

This is like me arguing that day one has the worst information out of all the days, so I am going to probably drop it.

This is theory talk we can save post game or somewhere else.

Firebringer · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:42 am

In post 186, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 185, Firebringer wrote:I don't care for min/max strategy for town.

If I was scum, I would no kill almost 80% of time because it feeds paranoia into any possible strong town pairs.
It would also amuse me, and 90% of why I play is for amusement 10% is for puzzle
That's great and all, but saying what you would personally do as scum won't help town.

I think it does.
but I don't think I need to spell out why so.

Firebringer · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:42 am

Also is that you vedithV

Mint Berry Crunch · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:42 am

In post 189, Firebringer wrote:Also is that you vedithV

Yeah.

Firebringer · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:43 am

How you doing man? Seems like I haven't talked to you in forever?

Mint Berry Crunch · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:44 am

In post 191, Firebringer wrote:How you doing man? Seems like I haven't talked to you in forever?

Yeah I'm good, how about you?

Haven't seen you in games (alive at least) that I've been in for a while.

Firebringer · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:44 am

In post 192, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 191, Firebringer wrote:How you doing man? Seems like I haven't talked to you in forever?
Yeah I'm good, how about you?
Haven't seen you in games (alive at least) that I've been in for a while.

I took a small hiatus.
How's work?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:45 am

I'm very interested in why Cabd agrees with me in principle but was the first to decry the idea.

I mean, sure, maybe Cabd is right about herding cats, but why would he put a stop to the discussion and idea right there. Even if we fail to execute the plan perfectly, the chaos caused by trying to implement it will show a lot of motivations much clearer. So I'm very concerned that Cabd put a kibosh on it so quickly, while also trying to appease my idea.

I'd be happy to see Cabd die in pre-dance.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:45 am

In post 193, Firebringer wrote:
In post 192, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 191, Firebringer wrote:How you doing man? Seems like I haven't talked to you in forever?
Yeah I'm good, how about you?
Haven't seen you in games (alive at least) that I've been in for a while.
I took a small hiatus.
How's work?

Folks, we're not flooding the game thread with this shit. If it's non-game relevant, like catching up with a friend, happy for you, but take it to PMs or IMs or something.

Mint Berry Crunch · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:46 am

In post 193, Firebringer wrote:I took a small hiatus.
How's work?

Sometimes gets busy, other than that easy sailing

Last time we spoke properly you were moving, all settled?

Firebringer · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:47 am

In post 195, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 193, Firebringer wrote:
In post 192, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 191, Firebringer wrote:How you doing man? Seems like I haven't talked to you in forever?
Yeah I'm good, how about you?
Haven't seen you in games (alive at least) that I've been in for a while.
I took a small hiatus.
How's work?
Folks, we're not flooding the game thread with this shit. If it's non-game relevant, like catching up with a friend, happy for you, but take it to PMs or IMs or something.

Mafia is a social game.

Mint Berry Crunch · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:47 am

In post 195, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Folks, we're not flooding the game thread with this shit. If it's non-game relevant, like catching up with a friend, happy for you, but take it to PMs or IMs or something.

Fair enough. I won't flood it here.

Firebringer · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:48 am

In post 196, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 193, Firebringer wrote:I took a small hiatus.
How's work?
Sometimes gets busy, other than that easy sailing
Last time we spoke properly you were moving, all settled?

That's good on easy sailing.
Yeah funny thing on that, I just moved again, I am moving like once a year now, it's crazy.

So why you so down for not dancing with anyone?
Do you have two left feet?