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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:53 pm
by skitter30
In post 172, Nibbui wrote:Skitter my argument is that he would know beforehand that he shouldn't act this way around me if we were partners because the first, and I really mean the first, thing I say in scum PT is to not buss or not interact weirdly. If it's not serious and just a suspicious it's ok though. Also it's apparently him and not me anyway.

I read the recent posts and I don't feel like there was as much to it as I imagined.

This game feels like will be a spicy read though.
fair enough, fair enough; i didn't get at first that you say that literally first thing in every scum pt

and yeah, it's not on your end, it's on his

and no, it's not like a serious push - it was more like something i kinda thought as i read through so i wrote it down because sometimes if i'm around in lategame i go back and read my previous posts to see what i was thinking at various points to make sure i hadn't forgotten anything important; this was sort of a note to future!me in case i was still around and one of you had flipped scum that i had gotten partner-y vibes if that makes sense

it's not something i'm particularly pushing rn

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:55 pm
by skitter30
In post 174, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 161, skitter30 wrote:^^^^ these ones gave me taht ping

the first feels a little bit like you're leaving room for people to talk you out of your vote

and the meta-read felt like a pretty big 180 from where you were pushing earlier - i guess i don't understand the strength of the read here; it feels almost too strong to me
eh i can see where youre coming from with disliking the 180

generally i just put a lot of trust in meta and my original read on him was never actually that strong or off of very much,
but the few things i disliked about him seemed to appear in his village game and not in his wolfing
can you elaborate a bit?

is it just that you think he's more tense/less laid-back as scum or is there more to the meta-read?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:57 pm
by sheepsaysmeep
his super aggro/confident/interacting with me in the way that he did was what got me to snap w read him but after reading through his v games i thought it's just in his playstyle because he plays like that in most games as v, and then from his w games i just feel like he's definitely the type of wolf to avoid that type of stuff and lay more low

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:58 pm
by Nibbui
NSG think for a moment and try to tell me:

how would be your entrance read list as scum here?

just the read list really and please don't say "I don't know".

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:59 pm
by the worst
In post 171, Nibbui wrote:
In post 149, the worst wrote:{tw}
{sheepy}
{Nibbui}
{}
{skitter}
{podoboq, Punk Bill, mastina} = null
{InfiniteSoda, nsg}

{}so forth
I'm curious about your reasons for those scum reads.

Mostly about InfiniteSoda.
NSG for obvious reasons
InfiniteSoda purely for the wolfy pop in, I'm easily wrong on that

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:00 pm
by the worst
In post 169, skitter30 wrote:
In post 166, the worst wrote:
In post 164, skitter30 wrote:
In post 145, the worst wrote:
In post 120, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: mastina

lol
this is town lmfao
are you saying you think sheep or mastina is town here?
sheepy
ah ok
what are you thinking wrt mastina?
she's shiptoasting which is cliche scum indicative but it's also something she does as town but she's like uniquely less serious as she is as either alignment and she's a little wolfy which is slightly town indicative but she's not wolfy in her usual wolfy way so I'm not really happy putting stock in that

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:00 pm
by skitter30
i think sheep may be town too

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:01 pm
by the worst
In post 173, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 160, Nibbui wrote:
In post 109, sheepsaysmeep wrote:idt i should really be w reading for this but it's kinda fishy that nsg townreads all of the current posting people,
including tw who has like 0 content yet,
and then dislikes nibbui's 33 substantially long posts where he's talked about a lot of stuff for of all things 7 hmmms
You were one to say that I and TW were mostly surely town here, so why do you have a problem with NSG giving him a town read?

I might have more content than him but that's no reason to say that he has "0 content" when you actually is town reading him as well.

I don't understand this part of your post tbh.
it's just pointing out she's basically townreading everyone in thread
ye I also can't really see NSG looking at the thread going "hmm these guys are town but Nibbui is scum manipulating them" and then retaliating against Nibbui with such a wishy washy take :giggle: kinda holistic gamestate vibe type deal but if she's town I'm not sure what she's doing

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:03 pm
by the worst
In post 177, sheepsaysmeep wrote:his super aggro/confident/interacting with me in the way that he did was what got me to snap w read him but after reading through his v games i thought it's just in his playstyle because he plays like that in most games as v, and then from his w games i just feel like he's definitely the type of wolf to avoid that type of stuff and lay more low
ye check the newbie game we were in together his reads were good and he was technically powertowning but he managed to piss off the entire town so badly he looked like he was openwolfing lmao

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:03 pm
by Nibbui
I think I'm too lucidy and level-headed this game so I'm not confident on any read yet because I'm being very logical here.

I may be town leaning someone that might come as a surprise but I feel there's still something doubtful about their play here.

Let's see if time solves the problem.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:03 pm
by the worst
In post 181, skitter30 wrote:i think sheep may be town too
he is so far ^_^

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:04 pm
by the worst
In post 184, Nibbui wrote:I think I'm too lucidy and level-headed this game so I'm not confident on any read yet because I'm being very logical here.

I may be town leaning someone that might come as a surprise but I feel there's still something doubtful about their play here.

Let's see if time solves the problem.
wanna jam abt this or
In post 185, the worst wrote:
In post 181, skitter30 wrote:i think sheep may be town too
he is so far ^_^
exhaustion is a factor when reading sheep beeteedubz
I haven't ever needed to read him tbf lmao

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:05 pm
by Nibbui
I want to jam but if I jam it right now it can hurt my future read so for now not

let's jam about sheep's meta though

what is the general feel of scum!sheep vs town!sheep for you?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:07 pm
by skitter30
In post 180, the worst wrote:
In post 169, skitter30 wrote:
In post 166, the worst wrote:
In post 164, skitter30 wrote:
In post 145, the worst wrote:
In post 120, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: mastina

lol
this is town lmfao
are you saying you think sheep or mastina is town here?
sheepy
ah ok
what are you thinking wrt mastina?
she's shiptoasting which is cliche scum indicative but it's also something she does as town but she's like uniquely less serious as she is as either alignment and she's a little wolfy which is slightly town indicative but she's not wolfy in her usual wolfy way so I'm not really happy putting stock in that
i've never played with her

i feel like she's being purposefully abstruse which is kinda like generically scummy but she could be doing it because she's feeling like whimsical or like she wants to be mysterious or something, idk

like it's generically scummy and it's the sort of thing i want to scumread but i think it might not be ai here, i can't tell

i do want to know why she's so certain you're scum tho because i'm not feeling it rn

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:09 pm
by the worst
In post 187, Nibbui wrote:I want to jam but if I jam it right now it can hurt my future read so for now not

let's jam about sheep's meta though

what is the general feel of scum!sheep vs town!sheep for you?
I only have like pretty holistic meta energy from sheep but I kinda don't feel like talking about it atm :?

feels like a cheap way to win towncred while alerting him to what I'm liking from him atm lmao

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:12 pm
by Nibbui
I think Mastina saying "TW is scum, 100% of the time here" is more alignment indicative than her whole attitude about explaining it or not tbh.

It's the kind of thing I would expect from scum!Mastina more often than town!Mastina.

She may just not be serious enough in this game though.
In post 189, the worst wrote:
In post 187, Nibbui wrote:I want to jam but if I jam it right now it can hurt my future read so for now not

let's jam about sheep's meta though

what is the general feel of scum!sheep vs town!sheep for you?
I only have like pretty holistic meta energy from sheep but I kinda don't feel like talking about it atm :?

feels like a cheap way to win towncred while alerting him to what I'm liking from him atm lmao
fair but why did you ask me back there if I wanted to know more about when you guys wolfed together then?

this seems a bit inconsistent

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:14 pm
by the worst
mastina and I have played together 2? times I think (not discussing alts etc. etc.)

earthbound mafia she incorrectly townread scum!me basically constantly until we NK'd her, she also hard 1v1'd town!Mathdino d1 who was very very obviously town

then in kittymo's encore mafia I incorrectly townread scum!her because I ended up having not much time and nor reading her posts, I was badly overgamed and sheeped Pine on her

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:14 pm
by the worst
OH THREE

also we were t/t in Labyrinth mafia, she incorrectly hard scumread me in rvs

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:15 pm
by the worst
the time we've played together on alts doesn't yield very interesting meta and I'm not absolutely sure it was her and I don't believe in alt outing so I won't talk about that.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:15 pm
by the worst
In post 190, Nibbui wrote:fair but why did you ask me back there if I wanted to know more about when you guys wolfed together then?
I asked if you wanted links iirc? That's what I meant

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:17 pm
by Nibbui
I'm surprised on how my logic is winning against my feelings by a good margin inside my head here

I might have just changed something very important about my playstyle accidentaly

I'm not sure it's a good thing though because although my feelings are mostly what seems the consensus right now, my logic doesn't point towards that at all

I'm a bit afraid of being a fool by going against consensus honestly but I'm tired of going with the flow as well

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:18 pm
by skitter30
In post 190, Nibbui wrote:I think Mastina saying "TW is scum, 100% of the time here" is more alignment indicative than her whole attitude about explaining it or not tbh.
yeah when i saw that my first thought was kinda like:

just how confident are you on that? like if you're that confident try to get people to understand you and make it happen, why are you being all mysterious about a read you're being that confident on?

and what will you do if he flips town because like rn i think that's much more likely?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:19 pm
by the worst
Go with whichever is more powerful imo. I've trusted my gut over my head and vice versa more times than I can count.

I also lose a lot of games tho
┐(´д`)┌

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:20 pm
by the worst
oh basically mastina pushes a narrative until she either realises it's wrong or decides it's right as both alignments. sorry. that would've been more useful to say earlier

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:26 pm
by Pink Ball
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