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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:10 am
by Shadowlesscloud
In post 174, davesaz wrote:At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.
Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.
Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.
im missing the question here?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:11 am
by Sakura Hana
Some things are bothering me.
First of all:
In post 22, Elsa Jay wrote:I like living. Pretty simple. Besides, it was more boring then my other draws.
For someone that likes living, making early threats and claiming vig guarantees you die sooner rather than later.
Then also:
If he likes playing mafia why claim judas which makes him less likely to be lynched and win con changed as a result?
It's like some dissonance, but i may overthinking things or not understand Elsa's playstyle at all, can someone tell me if im overthinking things, preferably, someone not named Shadow.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:15 am
by Shadowlesscloud
In post 176, Sakura Hana wrote:Some things are bothering me.
First of all:
In post 22, Elsa Jay wrote:I like living. Pretty simple. Besides, it was more boring then my other draws.
For someone that likes living, making early threats and claiming vig guarantees you die sooner rather than later.
Then also:
If he likes playing mafia why claim judas which makes him less likely to be lynched and win con changed as a result?
It's like some dissonance, but i may overthinking things or not understand Elsa's playstyle at all, can someone tell me if im overthinking things, preferably, someone not named Shadow.
Rude but fair.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:19 am
by Elsa Jay
Tbh I just wanted the Judas as a substitute Unlynchable to use in a dire circumstance. But this set up can be hugely townsided so I want to win as town.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:20 am
by davesaz
In post 163, Sakura Hana wrote: In post 119, Elsa Jay wrote:VT is a safe ass claim with 12 of them around, Ele. And you could have had the same effect if you'd have tossed Judas instead. So you are a liar.
Btw, funny is that i could also have discarded wrong place at the wrong time townie and also gotten the same combination i currently have.
Revealing that this card is in play, if true, took away a chance to counter caught scum of whatever type. It's a mistake to reveal information unnecessarily. Might even be scum.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:22 am
by Elsa Jay
Not many scum would claim a Universal Miller, Dave, but yeah.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:23 am
by davesaz
In post 175, Shadowlesscloud wrote: In post 174, davesaz wrote:At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.
Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.
Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.
im missing the question here?
During page 4 there were several incorrect posts about the mechanics, which I'm correcting in my post.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:25 am
by Shadowlesscloud
In post 181, davesaz wrote: In post 175, Shadowlesscloud wrote: In post 174, davesaz wrote:At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.
Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.
Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.
im missing the question here?
During page 4 there were several incorrect posts about the mechanics, which I'm correcting in my post.
ohhh thatd be helpful
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:26 am
by davesaz
In post 178, Elsa Jay wrote:Tbh I just wanted the Judas as a substitute Unlynchable to use in a dire circumstance. But this set up can be hugely townsided so I want to win as town.
Claiming it early does not jive with wanting it for a dire circumstance. I think this one is actually a lie and not just truth that looks like a lie. However I agree with being risk adverse, so lynching into it especially on day 1 is a bad move.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:51 am
by pinturicchio
Wait I don't understand. If you can only choose Judas as alignment, then it doesn't work? Or Judas is an alignment by itself and not a role? If we lynch Elsa he will become mafia or what?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:55 am
by JunkoChan
In post 184, pinturicchio wrote:Wait I don't understand. If you can only choose Judas as alignment, then it doesn't work? Or Judas is an alignment by itself and not a role? If we lynch Elsa he will become mafia or what?
STOP you are confusing yourself, Judas is tow by default, which means that if you pick it for your wlignmen you are town but don't have the judas power, so you won't become Judas
I think that's the correct way to look at it @micc correct me if I'm wrong
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 am
by Elsa Jay
Judas is used as an ability would be Vanilla, using it as the ALIGNMENT means I have the Judas effect. I know it's a weird card but it's not THAT hard.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 am
by JunkoChan
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 am
by Alchemist21
If you take Judas as Alignment you are Town until you are lynched then you are Mafia. If you take it as a role you are a Vanilla whatever-alignment-you-chose.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:58 am
by JunkoChan
This setup is confusing,
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:00 am
by JunkoChan
this doesn't make sense because I picked 2 "roles" but only got the power of the second one, is it a judas only mechanic?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:03 am
by Alchemist21
Agreed.
P-edit: No, everyone gets the alignment of one card and the ability of the other.
Like if you took Town Cop for Alignment and Mafia Roleblocker for your ability then you would be a Town Roleblocker.
Judas card doesn’t actually have an ability and is considered Vanilla for it.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:05 am
by Elsa Jay
It's a mechanic only in alignment changing roles, I think. The one-shot townie, the Judas and Saulus, and Underdog. They're Vanilla if used as an ability but otherwise they only work as alignment cards.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:05 am
by Shadowlesscloud
Judas is basically:
Judas Vanilla.
Judas is the alignment of :Town>Lynched>Mafia
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:17 am
by Sakura Hana
I've been told that way too many times in my life.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:42 am
by Sakura Hana
VOTE: Alchemist
I have a hunch.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:51 am
by Alchemist21
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:52 am
by Sakura Hana
Well if nothing else at least that made you appear.
But I do have a question for you.
How come that your ISO this game feels more IIoA than your previous game.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:53 am
by Allomancer
VOTE: Sakura
something doesn't feel right about her posts
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:56 am
by Sakura Hana
I wonder if one day i'll learn why that happens.
