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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:58 am
by insomnia
In post 172, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 170, nomnomnom wrote:I'd like to note how frustrating it is to play with someone like n_m, that doesn't show up for most of the early discussions and the one time he does it's for a bad joke on something random.
He's not going to show up for most of the game except to quickhammer.

L-2 is the new L-1 in N_M games.
And that spews him town? What's your read on him?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:07 am
by PenguinPower
Disagreeing with a weak case is defending?

I’d say what you’re doing is more defending. I’d also say that nom was your counter wagon, not Locke, so it’s interesting you went on Locke.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:07 am
by PenguinPower
In post 175, insomnia wrote:
In post 172, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 170, nomnomnom wrote:I'd like to note how frustrating it is to play with someone like n_m, that doesn't show up for most of the early discussions and the one time he does it's for a bad joke on something random.
He's not going to show up for most of the game except to quickhammer.

L-2 is the new L-1 in N_M games.
And that spews him town? What's your read on him?
Where did I say it makes him town?

I have no read on him atm. Anybody who does is lying.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:14 am
by nomnomnom
In post 176, PenguinPower wrote:I’d also say that nom was your counter wagon, not Locke, so it’s interesting you went on Locke.
I agree with this, that's definitely how I perceived things as well. Locke felt more like a temporary/weak/transitional wagon to me (hope that makes sense lol).

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:17 am
by rosterfoster
In post 176, PenguinPower wrote:I’d say what you’re doing is more defending. I’d also say that nom was your counter wagon, not Locke, so it’s interesting you went on Locke.

That makes nom/insomnia more likely buddies, no?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:20 am
by PenguinPower
Buddies or trying to pocket the newbie.

Thor did the latter to me real bad in my first game on site.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:22 am
by rosterfoster
But odd trying to pocket the Newbie by calling them scum though.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:22 am
by nomnomnom
Now Entering: Confirmation Bias Land.

Population: rosterfoster.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:23 am
by rosterfoster
So you think gems trying to pocket you? Or why else do you think he didn’t join your wagon?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:23 am
by rosterfoster
*he’s

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:26 am
by PenguinPower
In post 164, insomnia wrote:Nope, I just sincerely believe newbies have weird entrances on this website that ping as scum most of the time, regardless of alignment. If you look into my meta, you'll see I don't often vote newbies based on their first few posts, I like to vote based on actions. Like a counterwagon on a lurker. But, that might just be me *sips tea*
In post 166, insomnia wrote:I said she looks like newbscum at the moment. Big difference. That's why I'd like to keep her around so I can figure her out based on her actions and not her first posts on this website.

It is just against my nature to vote newbies based on their entrances. I honestly believe that's a bad play.

You can meta-check on that one.
Called her newbscum and then walked it back.

This could be buddying or it could be defending.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:27 am
by insomnia
In post 176, PenguinPower wrote:Disagreeing with a weak case is defending?

I’d say what you’re doing is more defending. I’d also say that nom was your counter wagon, not Locke, so it’s interesting you went on Locke.
Why is it so interesting? Urap was the one who started a counterwagon, and I suspect him along with Locke. People pushed 2 wagons after voting Locke to get us off of him. I've given a urap - locke scum case, but like, people never read what I post. It makes sense if you read my cases and shouldn't come off as interesting, but nobody focuses on cases, I honestly don't know why I'm even making them.

Honestly, whatever I'd do, I point to scum and I just get discredited completely on weak ass cases like "I find it interesting why you'd go for Locke"

Just vote me off and lynch mafia afterwards, since people don't listen to me, they only do after the flip.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:28 am
by insomnia
In post 185, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 164, insomnia wrote:Nope, I just sincerely believe newbies have weird entrances on this website that ping as scum most of the time, regardless of alignment. If you look into my meta, you'll see I don't often vote newbies based on their first few posts, I like to vote based on actions. Like a counterwagon on a lurker. But, that might just be me *sips tea*
In post 166, insomnia wrote:I said she looks like newbscum at the moment. Big difference. That's why I'd like to keep her around so I can figure her out based on her actions and not her first posts on this website.

It is just against my nature to vote newbies based on their entrances. I honestly believe that's a bad play.

You can meta-check on that one.
Called her newbscum and then walked it back.

This could be buddying or it could be defending.
I already touched on this aspect, but again, why would people read my posts, i'm caught scum.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:29 am
by nomnomnom
I mean, in my mind pocketing doesn't equate to calling someone scum, so I'd have to say no.

I don't know what his deal is with the locke vote exactly. Could be a lot of things and I'm not willing to take a guess right now.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:30 am
by insomnia
In post 188, nomnomnom wrote:I mean, in my mind pocketing doesn't equate to calling someone scum, so I'd have to say no.

I don't know what his deal is with the locke vote exactly. Could be a lot of things and I'm not willing to take a guess right now.
Like, look at this, I've already explained my vote yet my answer's being ignored.

I'm done.

@Mod, please replace me

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:31 am
by nomnomnom
???

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:34 am
by PenguinPower
In post 186, insomnia wrote:
In post 176, PenguinPower wrote:Disagreeing with a weak case is defending?

I’d say what you’re doing is more defending. I’d also say that nom was your counter wagon, not Locke, so it’s interesting you went on Locke.
Why is it so interesting? Urap was the one who started a counterwagon, and I suspect him along with Locke. People pushed 2 wagons after voting Locke to get us off of him. I've given a urap - locke scum case, but like, people never read what I post. It makes sense if you read my cases and shouldn't come off as interesting, but nobody focuses on cases, I honestly don't know why I'm even making them.

Honestly, whatever I'd do, I point to scum and I just get discredited completely on weak ass cases like "I find it interesting why you'd go for Locke"

Just vote me off and lynch mafia afterwards, since people don't listen to me, they only do after the flip.
Obviously, I'm reading your posts. And, obviously, I disagree.

This is a game where we debate things. You need to chill with the "woe is me" attitude and engage in the debate.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:34 am
by PenguinPower
In post 189, insomnia wrote:
In post 188, nomnomnom wrote:I mean, in my mind pocketing doesn't equate to calling someone scum, so I'd have to say no.

I don't know what his deal is with the locke vote exactly. Could be a lot of things and I'm not willing to take a guess right now.
Like, look at this, I've already explained my vote yet my answer's being ignored.

I'm done.

@Mod, please replace me
Or peace out. You could do that too.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:59 am
by nomnomnom
Does this happen often around here or

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:41 am
by GrandWazoo
Declare intent to put Insomnia L-1. What this world is coming to

Alacrity is an enigma. I don't like enigmas. Stuff like their unvote and ping me.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:37 am
by u r a person 2
UNVOTE:

initial impression is insomnia likely gets frustrated enough to replace out as town way more often than as scum.

That said, if he ends up not replacing out, it's NAI at best

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:39 am
by themilkcartonkid
I think insomnia blew up way too quickly. I super think that was scummy. But I think we should see the replacement first. Because it could be just another thing altogether. A replacement gives us more info and it could be a strong town player if insomnia was town. To be clear, I do want to lynch them, but not yet

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:40 am
by themilkcartonkid
In post 195, u r a person 2 wrote:UNVOTE:

initial impression is insomnia likely gets frustrated enough to replace out as town way more often than as scum.

That said, if he ends up not replacing out, it's NAI at best
Why is this your initial impresson?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:43 am
by nomnomnom
In post 196, themilkcartonkid wrote:I think insomnia blew up way too quickly.
My thoughts precisely. That was REALLY sudden, like almost no escalation at all.
I'm gonna ask again: is this type of thing common on this site? Like, replacing out like that, I mean.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:44 am
by u r a person 2
In post 197, themilkcartonkid wrote:
In post 195, u r a person 2 wrote:UNVOTE:

initial impression is insomnia likely gets frustrated enough to replace out as town way more often than as scum.

That said, if he ends up not replacing out, it's NAI at best
Why is this your initial impresson?
I've been working on profiling Insomnia since his first game on site, and while I'm not trying to say that I have a complete understanding of him as a human being and as a mafia player, I see him as more likely to try and tackle the challenge of working his way out of a scum read, and more likely to get frustrated by incorrect scum reads on him