Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[skitter30]

Not trying to argue. If you’re town I am honestly wanting you to play better

ok

a) i think it's a valid tell. it's not always right but i think it's worth exploring in a dead-ish gamestate
b) i'm not even voting her rn

[skitter30]

skitter why did you unvote the only wagon that was building when it was only L-2?

i don't mind giving her some space to get back into the game after being out of it for a couple of days at this stage of the game
if she doesn't start towning it up soonish i'll vote her again

[skitter30]

Also, q for the board: is greeting the thread only considered a scumtell in newbie games?

it's releatively recent and is well-documented in the newbie queue over the past few months
it hasn't really been tested out of the newbie queue that much yet as far as i've seen

[skitter30]

I don’t know how to or I would have 10 years ago.

I seriously try to but when I see people using terrible logic, logic that has Ben disproven, I get upset

Do you think she may be doing it on purpose as part of a strategy to gauge out reactions and reads?

this ... is a weird post

[skitter30]

i'm not sure how i feel about it

i think that scum!you might say that
i don't think it's impossible to come from town but it's .... a very odd post

[skitter30]

cinn is prob town i think?

[ClearlyClarity]

Mod note: VC coming later today. Had a long flight.

[ClearlyClarity]

Day 1, Votecount #4

Spoiler: Flavor

When I've got time, I'll show pictures of my Shanghai apartment in the next VC!

For now, I just want to rant about how China literally blocked every site I frequent, except this one. My friend make a joke that Chinese FBI might think I'm part of actual mafia. Seems like they prefer to take that over me watching PvZ videos on Youtube or googling literary terms, but I digress.

Skygazer (2) -

Cinnamon, Menalque

skitter30 (2) -

ViciousLamb, Robbnva

Cinnamon (1) -

Exilon

Exilon (1) -

Skygazer

ViciousLamb (1) -

Hitei

Not Voting (2) -

Lil Uzi Vert, skitter30

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-06-25 00:42:13)

Mod notes:

ViciousLamb has not responded to his prod and is being replaced. Please let me know if I messed up any votecounts!

[ClearlyClarity]

Dannflor replaces ViciousLamb. Please welcome him!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Dannflor replaces ViciousLamb. Please welcome him!

Welcome!

[Exilon]

I'm sorry, I don't believe you understood what I was trying to say so I'll put it simply. I think your read is fundamentally bad. You're using a bad read so I think it's more likely to come from scum than town. I also have no idea where this 'trying to dodge the question' is coming from because I think I answered you quite clearly.

"Reads I don't agree with = scummy"

Got it

[Exilon]

i'm not sure how i feel about it

i think that scum!you might say that
i don't think it's impossible to come from town but it's .... a very odd post

You've never seen scum!me

I don't like using meta as basis for scumhunting and it seems to be especially prevalent this game, I dislike it

Why is it an odd post?

[Exilon]

Dannflor replaces ViciousLamb. Please welcome him!

Welcome!

[Robbnva]

Also I find Rob’s playstyle really toxic (I read another game where he seemed exactly the same) and I also find it really hard to read, so I’m saying right now that I’m open to policy lynching there if there’s not clear scum by EoD

my apologies, I will be posting less

Do you think she may be doing it on purpose as part of a strategy to gauge out reactions and reads?

No I don't, but if she is it would be better for the game if she stopped. If she is town, I have to be able to work with her at some point and I am now unable to. based on the number of townies in this game, having 2 not able to work together is detrimental to town's win condition.

That is my contribution for today. See you all tomorrow.

[skitter30]

i'm not sure how i feel about it

i think that scum!you might say that
i don't think it's impossible to come from town but it's .... a very odd post

You've never seen scum!me

I don't like using meta as basis for scumhunting and it seems to be especially prevalent this game, I dislike it

Why is it an odd post?

Idk, still trying to figure out why i feel that way.

Why do u think i may have been reaction-testing that way?

[Exilon]

i'm not sure how i feel about it

i think that scum!you might say that
i don't think it's impossible to come from town but it's .... a very odd post

You've never seen scum!me

I don't like using meta as basis for scumhunting and it seems to be especially prevalent this game, I dislike it

Why is it an odd post?

Idk, still trying to figure out why i feel that way.

Why do u think i may have been reaction-testing that way?

okay

I feel like the things you're pointing out aren't super strong and it also seems to me that you're aware of that fact, and it's coming off as if you're using that as a starting point to go farther and get a more solid footing for reads. I hope that makes sense.

[Exilon]

Also I find Rob’s playstyle really toxic (I read another game where he seemed exactly the same) and I also find it really hard to read, so I’m saying right now that I’m open to policy lynching there if there’s not clear scum by EoD

my apologies, I will be posting less

Do you think she may be doing it on purpose as part of a strategy to gauge out reactions and reads?

No I don't, but if she is it would be better for the game if she stopped. If she is town, I have to be able to work with her at some point and I am now unable to. based on the number of townies in this game, having 2 not able to work together is detrimental to town's win condition.

That is my contribution for today. See you all tomorrow.

Let's just assume for now that she is and will eventually get to the point you can work together. Is there any other direction currently you would like to explore?

[skitter30]

i'm not sure how i feel about it

i think that scum!you might say that
i don't think it's impossible to come from town but it's .... a very odd post

You've never seen scum!me

I don't like using meta as basis for scumhunting and it seems to be especially prevalent this game, I dislike it

Why is it an odd post?

Idk, still trying to figure out why i feel that way.

Why do u think i may have been reaction-testing that way?

okay

I feel like the things you're pointing out aren't super strong and it also seems to me that you're aware of that fact, and it's coming off as if you're using that as a starting point to go farther and get a more solid footing for reads. I hope that makes sense.

Ya that's kinda where my head is now, trying to find something that will give me a good handle on this game, or like a hook that will help me find something to push

I wasnt reaction-testing with my sky read tho

Why are we assuming i'm town for now?

[Exilon]

I get you're not explictily reaction-testing, that was just my blanket statement for you trying to get a better footing on the game. That is to say, you're ok with using weak logic and arguments to produce better and more meaningful reads. I'm the same way (and honestly I don't think there's any other way to do it).

That's pro-town in my book even if it may not be AI, so we'll see how it develops.

Regarding Rob:
I think you and Rob are on different wavelengths. I believe that if you're both town you'll be on the same page later in the game because your divergence currently is due to playstyle (my opinion).
Therefore, it is productive for town if he can set that issue aside for now and focus on a direction he finds to be more productive.

[Robbnva]

Let's just assume for now that she is and will eventually get to the point you can work together. Is there any other direction currently you would like to explore?

She is my top scum read right now, I don't know if I can just assume she is town and move on. If I removed my vote off her, I'd go back to menalque

That said, I am not going to make a baseless assumption and remove my vote. skitter is who I want to vote to be lynched today.

[Exilon]

Let's just assume for now that she is and will eventually get to the point you can work together. Is there any other direction currently you would like to explore?

She is my top scum read right now, I don't know if I can just assume she is town and move on. If I removed my vote off her, I'd go back to menalque

That said, I am not going to make a baseless assumption and remove my vote. skitter is who I want to vote to be lynched today.

ok. What do you think of her using weak logic as a means to jump into more solid cases on people later on?
Does that make sense as a strategy to you? why or why not?

[Robbnva]

Until that happens I can’t really comment on it. Using weak logic imo is lazy play, it’s also very scummy. That’s what I expect scum to do. I would hope wouldn’t be playing like that

[Robbnva]

At some point I need to go back and read the game to see what else stands out but until then skitter remains the best lynch candidate

[Dannflor]

Hello!

Exilon, what are your reads on skitter and Robbnva individually? Gun to head, if you had to say an alignment.

[Dannflor]

Are you an alt by any chance Hitei?

Why did you ask this?

Also, why aren't you voting?