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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:43 am
by Sirfetchd
Not really. Because you can win Lylo off it. And if you go last go for an guilty on someone who has claimed a role with a gun. Make it seem legit. Can even call out like a slot or two that you want them to go ahead to 'catch' people claiming gun roles without one and vice versa.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:47 am
by Sirfetchd
Hey Wizard, is there a full list of role options that would get "Has Gun" from gunsmith?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:38 pm
by TheWizard
In post 176, Sirfetchd wrote:Hey Wizard, is there a full list of role options that would get "Has Gun" from gunsmith?
Each night you may choose to investigate a player. You will learn if they have a gun or not. The following roles have guns: Mafia, Night 2 Vigilante, Conditional-shot Vigilante (if they have not yet killed a townie), 1-shot PGO, 5-ability JOAT (if they haven't used their kill ability yet).
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:35 pm
by Sirfetchd
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:48 am
by skitter30
My gut is that flub is JOAT, thoughts?
And aaron is the pgo/n2 vig slot
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:46 pm
by Sirfetchd
I agree. I still think my posted actions are correct.
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:02 pm
by skitter30
Ok we'll do that then!
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:39 pm
by Sirfetchd
If I do get vigged, you are still in a dece spot. Just really shit. Try and work out if has used his shot and you can maybe pretend you targetted him bc there was some confusion in thread about his role.
I think if you claim VT you get PoE'd out of the game despite your town cred.
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:40 pm
by Sirfetchd
Funny, if we had gotten Xayah lynched, we would be so strong. And yet, I hope that I framed you well enough to have you be the only person off the table after it.
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:41 pm
by Sirfetchd
I think if you get high and mighty and demand control of town you can ride "lol maybe my reads suck" to end game.
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:49 pm
by skitter30
Maybe we'll be lucky and he'll, like, vig adorable for us or something
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:56 pm
by skitter30
ok aaron is a n2 vig, i guess, since xayah died and we didn't kill her
there can't be a redirector because the cop slot died
so i either got rb'd or ss got docced
i could claim gunsmith but i may have gotten rb'd
it makes more sense to me that ss got docced, i think
the rb/doc can't be flub since you jk'd him
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:00 pm
by skitter30
In post 136, skitter30 wrote:ok time to do a little analysis of the setup
roles
: (the ones crossed out are the ones we know are in play)
Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful
Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO
Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector
~ rb, cop
Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher
~ unknown
Doctor OR Roleblocker
- unknown, can't be flub
Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop
~ unknown - fuck if they took backup the cop is back
Neighborizer OR Gunsmith
~ me
Jailkeeper OR Tracker
~ you
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT
unless wooper was vig it's unlikely perfectionist vig is in play
either n2 vig or perfectinist vig is in play since xayah died n2
doc/rb has to be in play since ss didn't die n2
players
:
Flubbernugget ~ powered, unknown
rb ~ sane cop, dead
Sirfetchd ~ jk
Something_Smart ~ very very probably backup/cop
AaronFrost ~ very probably n2 vig/perfectionist vig
Xayah ~ vt, dead
skitter30 ~ neighborizer
Kerset
PMysterious
wooper
Sujimichi
Luca Blight
nomnomnom ~ dead
Billy Pilgrim ~ goon, dead
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:01 pm
by skitter30
fuck we have to go doc-hunting in order to kill ss
doc has to be in the kerset-luca block, but i have no idea who
gut says wooper since he's probably the only other person i'd have expected here to doc ss (or rb me)
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:04 pm
by skitter30
we might just be fucked mechanically, but i really hope not
if ss decided to check me i have to claim gunsmith, i htink
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:13 pm
by skitter30
Actually ss can also nominally be conditional commuter but that doesnt explain his drastic play change day2
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:59 am
by Sirfetchd
I think we can p much say with about 80% certainty that Flub is a JOAT.
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:37 am
by skitter30
Ss didnt check aaron last night, so now i'm confused
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:38 am
by skitter30
@mod if a gunsmith checks the joat the same night they use their kill ability, what result do they get?
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:54 am
by TheWizard
"Your target does not have a gun."
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:48 am
by skitter30
Kerset might be backup actually
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:51 am
by Sirfetchd
Ducky has a result that involves you but the looks of it. But it may be positive for you.
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:59 am
by skitter30
Ya ducky is softing something too? Not sure
I really really hope he didnt rb me ...
Wouldnt make sense with his reads tho
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:01 pm
by skitter30
What result could he even have ... we know where the investigatives are already
Actually he might be faking something? He just did this in the last game i played with him
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:03 pm
by Sirfetchd
Could he be perf vig and killed xayah?