Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Sujimichi]

So i am going to come after you for that reasoning, to make it sure actually, like, exists

See above.

[Sujimichi]

That was...unfortunate.

See previous page, last post.

[skitter30]

Draft choice is such huge source of information. With double role pick {8,9,10,11} are able to find out which roles were taken by top players. It's obv that both {9,10} are scum.
VOTE: Aaron

Interesting take. Not entirely sure what you mean here but I guess this begs the question of whether or not scum would be allowed to coordinate their draft picks.

I was scum in the last iteration of pyp, and they can

Lol. What for?

You know scum governor getting to LYLO is an instant scum win right?

I almost feel like scum wouldnt have gone for governor because it's such an obviously scummy pick

I don't think anyone would seriously choose 1-shot governor over a joat regardless of alignment.

I feel like some sorts of players would go for governor anyways. I also forgot what it was paired with, ao fair point

[skitter30]

So i am going to come after you for that reasoning, to make it sure actually, like, exists

See above.

Let me finish reading

[Sujimichi]

the game has started to move out of rvs

Can you clarify how you define this?

[Sujimichi]

So i am going to come after you for that reasoning, to make it sure actually, like, exists

See above.

Let me finish reading

Are you asking me to cease posting until such time?

[AaronFrost]

I can get behind this.
VOTE: S_S

VOTE: nom

Don't like this sheep vote.

I'd like to put pressure on something_smart. What's wrong with that?

Why though?

[skitter30]

I would make a strong case for taking it as scum and claiming JOAT. The only JOAT ability you'd have to explain away would be the vig.

Oh yeah this is a good idea too, but that player would probably have to be very confident and believe that they're likely to be alive in lylo

[skitter30]

So i am going to come after you for that reasoning, to make it sure actually, like, exists

See above.

Let me finish reading

Are you asking me to cease posting until such time?

No i'm saying i'll answer you when i catch up

[AaronFrost]

I don't know why but I'm getting strong town vibes from Sirfetchd

[skitter30]

VOTE: Wooper

Scummy rvs vote

If you think its scummy why'd you keep your vote on your random target?

VOTE: Skitter

Werent you just voting suij for havint a bad response to me saying his rvs vote was bad?

[skitter30]

Be back in a few min

[AaronFrost]

So last open that I played was haunted village. Vork setup specced way hard, I townread him for it, and turns out he was scum. I'm leaning something smart scum for it this time, because after last game it's a way to get low hanging town points in the early RVS stages.

I like Xayah for turning away from setup spec.

Townlean on Xayah
Scumlean on Skitt for the push w/o vote, and S_S for all that setup spec.

I know others were doing it, but s_s stuck out there.

Interesting. Do you think scum would be the ones to initiate setup spec discussion?

[AaronFrost]

Draft choice is such huge source of information. With double role pick {8,9,10,11} are able to find out which roles were taken by top players. It's obv that both {9,10} are scum.
VOTE: Aaron

Interesting take. Not entirely sure what you mean here but I guess this begs the question of whether or not scum would be allowed to coordinate their draft picks.

I was scum in the last iteration of pyp, and they can

Lol. What for?

You know scum governor getting to LYLO is an instant scum win right?

I almost feel like scum wouldnt have gone for governor because it's such an obviously scummy pick

I don't think anyone would seriously choose 1-shot governor over a joat regardless of alignment.

I feel like some sorts of players would go for governor anyways. I also forgot what it was paired with, ao fair point

It's paired with a 5-ability JOAT.

[AaronFrost]

Don't really understand the scumreads on SS honestly. I agree that there are better things we could be doing right now than setup spec, but I don't think SS had any malicious intent in doing that.

[skitter30]

Draft choice is such huge source of information. With double role pick {8,9,10,11} are able to find out which roles were taken by top players. It's obv that both {9,10} are scum.
VOTE: Aaron

Oh? How did you reach this conclusion?

If they got 3 picks in sequence on the middle of list, then they can pick 3 different powerful roles as first choice. If they failed to get some of them, then they know, which roles were selected by #1/#2 picks. In this mode there is no riskin doing so, bc they still got second choice. The fact that we got exactly 9, 10 and 11 is odd, such perfect randomness in kind of high numbers.

i mean didn't we get most numbers between 1-12 i want to say (i remember a few were skipped, but i don't remember which offhand)

i feel like in general scum would try to aim for a number they think would put them at the front of the draft

there's a lot of wacky things scum ~could~ do, but i don't think they actually do them in practice (for ex: doubling up. i don't think that scum usually knowingly sacrifices the chance at getting a good draft for the anti-associatives)

in 732 scum actually got 3 picks in a row, but we didn't do it on purpose at all
it was kinda useful tho, ngl

[Sirfetchd]

Where's the wooper scooper?

Want an opinion on skitter from him.

[skitter30]

I think Kerset is town for a really dumb reason.

do tell

[skitter30]

Where's the wooper scooper?

Want an opinion on skitter from him.

he's going to tell you that it's too early to read me and that i'm still well in my scumrange

[skitter30]

suji irregarldess of your alignment i like how you play/interact with ppl/your posting style

[Sirfetchd]

Ok sick.

Also want to hear from rb bc either him or flub should have taken my first choice but they didn't.

[skitter30]

i don't get the townreads on kerset rn

[AaronFrost]

Where's the wooper scooper?

Want an opinion on skitter from him.

he's going to tell you that it's too early to read me and that i'm still well in my scumrange

As someone who's experienced scum!skitter, I can agree with this.

[skitter30]

Ok sick.

Also want to hear from rb bc either him or flub should have taken my first choice but they didn't.

i mean ok? you're just going to believe me?

[skitter30]

flubb why do you feel so different rn from like the last at least two times that i've played with you?