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It’s late and I’ve been drinking so I’ll respond to individual posts tomorrow morning. But that vote count is ugly. Need some consensus building in the next two days. Billy, BBmolla, Karnage off the table for me, but it gets harder after that.

How much time is left for us to vote and talk brfore night?

Skitters vote count has a countdown timer that is accurate as of loading the page. Little over four days as of this post

Sorry, I’m still here

Will be back to contribute later today

In post 163, BBmolla wrote:you're not paying attention if you think it's a sheep vote.

you can't deny the timing of your vote is suspect though

In post 151, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 145, Karnage wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm pretty good with Billy being town atm with Micc and BBMolla

Why?

I never had a strong scum read on you and I was going back and forth with it in my head. But the more you post the more I can see you coming from a town mindset so for now I'm going to go with town!Billy

In post 180, Karnage wrote:

In post 163, BBmolla wrote:you're not paying attention if you think it's a sheep vote.

you can't deny the timing of your vote is suspect though

Not sure how the timing makes it suspect. He has been suspicious on jones for a while.

Sorry for the inactivity this weekend, I kinda got swamped with stuff from school

In post 182, bepwei wrote:

In post 180, Karnage wrote:

In post 163, BBmolla wrote:you're not paying attention if you think it's a sheep vote.

you can't deny the timing of your vote is suspect though

Not sure how the timing makes it suspect. He has been suspicious on jones for a while.

Sorry for the inactivity this weekend, I kinda got swamped with stuff from school

he's been suspicious for a while but didn't vote until Billy did. that implies it was Billy's vote that prompted BB's vote. That is suspect

In post 183, Karnage wrote:

In post 182, bepwei wrote:

In post 180, Karnage wrote:

In post 163, BBmolla wrote:you're not paying attention if you think it's a sheep vote.

you can't deny the timing of your vote is suspect though

Not sure how the timing makes it suspect. He has been suspicious on jones for a while.

Sorry for the inactivity this weekend, I kinda got swamped with stuff from school

he's been suspicious for a while but didn't vote until Billy did. that implies it was Billy's vote that prompted BB's vote. That is suspect

I find the fact that he unvoted so quickly more suspicious than the fact he voted him after billy.

In post 184, bepwei wrote:

In post 183, Karnage wrote:

In post 182, bepwei wrote:

In post 180, Karnage wrote:

In post 163, BBmolla wrote:you're not paying attention if you think it's a sheep vote.

you can't deny the timing of your vote is suspect though

Not sure how the timing makes it suspect. He has been suspicious on jones for a while.

Sorry for the inactivity this weekend, I kinda got swamped with stuff from school

he's been suspicious for a while but didn't vote until Billy did. that implies it was Billy's vote that prompted BB's vote. That is suspect

I find the fact that he unvoted so quickly more suspicious than the fact he voted him after billy.

I think the unvote is NAI

Folks we are more than halfway into D1, we haven't had a wagon more than 3 people on it at all, and the only 3 person wagon we had was on Jones and lasted for under 12 hours. This D1 sucks and I'm not getting any information from it. All the folks that arent voting, go somewhere, or one of you will probably end up eating a compromise lynch. At this point, I'm not voting Micc Karnage, or BBM today. Like to have the spots that arent voting say 1) what they think about the Jones wagon; 2) what they think about the Jones response to that wagon; and 3) who is a better vote if not Jones and why.

I think the Jones wagon sucks.
It just went "Town Cred denied." Pressure vote, Pressure vote.
His response was to throw a fit.
I think your looking to policy lynch him at this point tbh.

VOTE: Billy Pilgrim
Figure I better back that up.

In post 186, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Folks we are more than halfway into D1, we haven't had a wagon more than 3 people on it at all, and the only 3 person wagon we had was on Jones and lasted for under 12 hours. This D1 sucks and I'm not getting any information from it. All the folks that arent voting, go somewhere, or one of you will probably end up eating a compromise lynch. At this point, I'm not voting Micc Karnage, or BBM today. Like to have the spots that arent voting say 1) what they think about the Jones wagon; 2) what they think about the Jones response to that wagon; and 3) who is a better vote if not Jones and why.

If you aren’t getting information, push harder on someone. As soon as LCpl exclaimed he was town, you seemed to back off. You want people to push yet you’re afraid to do it yourself. If you need information on day one, you need to press it out of people. If you want a vote you got it sir. You’re managing to look like town without actually doing anything. I don’t like the fact that you are looking for people to just follow your vote.
VOTE: Billy Pilgram

What a world we live in

Jones wagon goes to l-2 and his response is to quit but not really quit and y’all are calling it a bad push.

It’s been a bad push cause none of y’all piled on to make it an l-1 wagon when he decided to throw hands in the air and play victim.

I like billy/molla/Karnage for town, gyro and Jones as scum and everyone else as newbies who I have a hard time distinguishing between Newbie scum hunting and actually being scum.

Also anyone who’s complaining about policy lynches needs to explain who having Gyro in lylo is ever a good thing for Town

In post 190, Micc wrote:What a world we live in

Jones wagon goes to l-2 and his response is to quit but not really quit and y’all are calling it a bad push.

It’s been a bad push cause none of y’all piled on to make it an l-1 wagon when he decided to throw hands in the air and play victim.

I don’t remember you voting? Could you link posts where you voted or unvoted.

Micc wrote:I like billy/molla/Karnage for town, gyro and Jones as scum and everyone else as newbies who I have a hard time distinguishing between

bad

Newbie scum hunting and actually being scum.

There’s a vote count on the top of the page man

In post 189, bepwei wrote:

In post 186, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Folks we are more than halfway into D1, we haven't had a wagon more than 3 people on it at all, and the only 3 person wagon we had was on Jones and lasted for under 12 hours. This D1 sucks and I'm not getting any information from it. All the folks that arent voting, go somewhere, or one of you will probably end up eating a compromise lynch. At this point, I'm not voting Micc Karnage, or BBM today. Like to have the spots that arent voting say 1) what they think about the Jones wagon; 2) what they think about the Jones response to that wagon; and 3) who is a better vote if not Jones and why.

If you aren’t getting information, push harder on someone. As soon as LCpl exclaimed he was town, you seemed to back off. You want people to push yet you’re afraid to do it yourself. If you need information on day one, you need to press it out of people. If you want a vote you got it sir. You’re managing to look like town without actually doing anything. I don’t like the fact that you are looking for people to just follow your vote.
VOTE: Billy Pilgram

Where did I back off? When he said he was town, I said the appeal to emotion from him sounded fake. What post have I made after my initial post that was backing off of Jones. And in the post that you were responding to, didnt I ask everyone what their thoughts were on the Jones wagon and Jones' response?

@Heavy - what makes you think I'm looking to policy lynch Jones?

FWIW, I dont think either of these are good, but I think Bep's post is worse. I made that case at 155. Bep posts before I flip out about the game state, so if it was my push that was bad, he could have voted there.

I still like my Jones vote, and add to the initial reasons that he didnt respond well to the pressure.

I think both the votes on me are bad as well. That already means I'm finding scummy play from at least one town player, so it would be nice if we could get more activity so I can have a bit more data.

@Micc - I'm fine doing a policy lynch on D2. I dont want a policy lynch on D1. I'd like a real wagon that I can analyze alongside a policy lynch wagon when we get to a LYLO situation.

In post 193, bepwei wrote:

In post 190, Micc wrote:What a world we live in

Jones wagon goes to l-2 and his response is to quit but not really quit and y’all are calling it a bad push.

It’s been a bad push cause none of y’all piled on to make it an l-1 wagon when he decided to throw hands in the air and play victim.

I don’t remember you voting? Could you link posts where you voted or unvoted.

Micc wrote:I like billy/molla/Karnage for town, gyro and Jones as scum and everyone else as newbies who I have a hard time distinguishing between

bad

Newbie scum hunting and actually being scum.

It was post 159.

In post 190, Micc wrote:What a world we live in

Jones wagon goes to l-2 and his response is to quit but not really quit and y’all are calling it a bad push.

It’s been a bad push cause none of y’all piled on to make it an l-1 wagon when he decided to throw hands in the air and play victim.

What is the difference is between L-1 and L-2 on your read there? Potential to hammer only?

Billy Pilgrim wrote: @Heavy - what makes you think I'm looking to policy lynch Jones?

Basically cause you were voting him prior.
It looks as if you were looking to draw negative attention to his emotional response by not showing much emotion yourself.

VOTE: lclpjones

I’ll unvote if need be later. Why are their votes on him?