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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:10 am
by Iconeum
In post 173, Menalque wrote:What if I’m TRing you
it's possible

but it felt like you were trying to corner me :)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:11 am
by Iconeum
PAGETOP BOOM

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:12 am
by Iconeum
why don't you just come clean with how you think about it all

that would be much more helpfull to everyone

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:13 am
by Alduskkel
Mena you're not helping

Ico:
116: calling a vote an OMGUS vote implies that the person behind the vote was just voting you for a shallow/petty reason
119: implies that HH cannot read you and the use of the word "actually" implies that HH is foolish for even thinking they can read you

pedit:
Iconeum wrote:
In post 161, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 158, Iconeum wrote:i've literally just explained what I think is disengenuis about it
no you didn't you just said it was a "feeling"

also I already quoted the posts where I thought you were trying to discredit
that's not true

i said i think UC's explanation is very townie, and that the way HH went about 'pushing emps to do something usefull' is where scum can come from while taking the same stand

both did the same thing

i think one could come from scum, the other from town and i showed you why and how i think that

and yeah sure a lot of it is feeling

what you expect, a full fledged scumread (which I never said I have on HH) during RVS?

what is the problem exactly if it even is just a feeling that i can't explain?
you never really said "why and how" you think that

I don't expect a full fledged scumread but a scum is more likely than town to be unable to explain their supposed "feeling"
Iconeum wrote:Do you think it was NOT omgus?
No, just because HH voted for you after you voted them doesn't automatically make it OMGUS. They had reasons for voting you outside of simply "because you voted for us."

pedit 2: jesus so many posts

but yes I agree Menalque should just say what his read is already

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 am
by Menalque
In post 177, Iconeum wrote:why don't you just come clean with how you think about it all

that would be much more helpfull to everyone
Nah I don’t think it would be yet

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 am
by Menalque
In post 175, Iconeum wrote:
In post 173, Menalque wrote:What if I’m TRing you
it's possible

but it felt like you were trying to corner me :)
Why do you think I would try to corner you as either alignment?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 am
by Menalque
As in what is the benefit to my win condition as either alignment

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:16 am
by Menalque
I need emps, Chem, and uncrowned to play more

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:17 am
by Iconeum
In post 178, Alduskkel wrote:I don't expect a full fledged scumread but a scum is more likely than town to be unable to explain their supposed "feeling"
so you think scum will put out half-edged 'feeling' faked scumreads just for shits and giggles this early, that they have no way of explaining

or maybe it's town, who doesn't care about that because they are only interested in finding scum and don't mind putting out feelings that they maybe can't fully explain

you make up your mind about that :]

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:19 am
by Alduskkel
In post 183, Iconeum wrote:
In post 178, Alduskkel wrote:I don't expect a full fledged scumread but a scum is more likely than town to be unable to explain their supposed "feeling"
so you think scum will put out half-edged 'feeling' faked scumreads just for shits and giggles this early, that they have no way of explaining

or maybe it's town, who doesn't care about that because they are only interested in finding scum and don't mind putting out feelings that they maybe can't fully explain

you make up your mind about that :]
well if the alternative is looking like you're not scumhunting at all then yes I think scum might do that

plus maybe you didn't think you'd be called out for an explanation

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:23 am
by Alduskkel
also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:23 am
by Menalque
In post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit
Have you played with town!icon?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:24 am
by Alduskkel
In post 186, Menalque wrote:
In post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit
Have you played with town!icon?
not that I can recall

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:24 am
by Iconeum
i mean this is WIFOM here but

i could just participate in rvs and post a couple gifs about whatnot and blend in

but calling out what i think is scummy is something i'll always do as town, and not care about potential consequences

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:25 am
by Menalque
In post 187, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 186, Menalque wrote:
In post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit
Have you played with town!icon?
not that I can recall
So then why do you think that indicates scum!him rather than him just flubbing under pressure in general?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:29 am
by Iconeum
i want to state, for the record, that i don't think i'm currently flubbing

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:30 am
by Alduskkel
Menalque wrote:
In post 187, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 186, Menalque wrote:
In post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit
Have you played with town!icon?
not that I can recall
So then why do you think that indicates scum!him rather than him just flubbing under pressure in general?
because it looked like the kind of flubbing under pressure that comes from the cognitive dissonance when you get a scum PM but have to act like you got a town one, so the more you explain your reads the more it comes out that they're fake reads

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:33 am
by Iconeum
In post 191, Alduskkel wrote:because it looked like the kind of flubbing under pressure that comes from the cognitive dissonance when you get a scum PM but have to act like you got a town one, so the more you explain your reads the more it comes out that they're fake reads
IT'S NOT A FAKE READ

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:34 am
by Alduskkel
that might be true but from my perspective it looks like a fake read because you can't explain the read

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:36 am
by Menalque
In post 180, Menalque wrote:
In post 175, Iconeum wrote:
In post 173, Menalque wrote:What if I’m TRing you
it's possible

but it felt like you were trying to corner me :)
Why do you think I would try to corner you as either alignment?
Answer this pls icon

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:38 am
by Iconeum
In post 193, Alduskkel wrote:that might be true but from my perspective it looks like a fake read because you can't explain the read
i've tried to explain my
feeling
as best as i could

and try to show you the difference in how both HH and UC went about doing the same thing

and why i gave towncred to one of them and a scummy feeling to the other

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:39 am
by Iconeum
In post 194, Menalque wrote:
In post 180, Menalque wrote:
In post 175, Iconeum wrote:
In post 173, Menalque wrote:What if I’m TRing you
it's possible

but it felt like you were trying to corner me :)
Why do you think I would try to corner you as either alignment?
Answer this pls icon
scum!you could use that as a justification for jumping on the wagon

-> if I answered 'yeah you have a good record of reading me', I leave a door wagonwide open for you to say 'i scumread you', and i'd have no answer to it. Scum!you could do this for pushing me

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:40 am
by Iconeum
and i'm not saying i think you actually did that, it's in answer to why you *could* try to corner me

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:44 am
by Menalque
What about why I’d do it as town?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:45 am
by Menalque
And again, why does scum!me try to push you in that way specifically?